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[quote="Elayne"]Eh maybe not messages but some concepts are there.

And no, I don't believe symbology or all that other stuff they can put in books makes it BETTER. I suppose you have to first define what makes a book good. If its a complex writing style where you have to think hard to understand what the point of every sentence or object that apprears in a book the, fine, I'll grant you higher level is better.

But thats not my definition of a good book. A good book to me is one with deep characters that are not one demential and the book when ended has coherency to it. Does it have to teach me something? No, not necessarily. I like books that present the situtations and characters and let you make your interprations. Like how we could have a thread on Ender's game with people all over the board on the answers. Books that make you examine a topic or idea in a new light are successful ones and don't need to be written on a high level to do that.

Heck I took a 400 level college class on analyzing childhood literature and I enjoyed it greatly. The message/concepts of some novels might be distilled so a younger age can understand it, but they are still there.[/quote]

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