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| 3iff |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:24 am Post subject: 1 |
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Well, I seem to be starting up another quiz...but I think I'll have a go at moderating a rules game...
It'll be likely to start next week as I get next Mon/Tue off thanks to a bank holiday. Watch out for a new thread soon and sign up there... |
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| bgg1996* |
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 12:40 am Post subject: 0 |
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| I will be interested. |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 11:20 pm Post subject: -1 |
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| You are welcome to run one. I have run more than enough. |
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| 3iff |
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 7:10 am Post subject: -2 |
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Well, I'm stunned. First time player and I actually win...although mostly thanks to players knocking themselves out.
Really enjoyed that and I'm definitely in for the next one... If there's interest in a new game then I'm happy to have a go at moderating it...
Thanks to my competitors who were perhaps not totally on their game this time. |
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| carrier_of_the_arch |
Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 12:35 am Post subject: -3 |
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Congrats 3iff! Hopefully I'll last longer in the next rules game
Congrats also to Zag for successfully screwing my pronounciation of the word 'yank' |
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| MNOWAX |
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 2:59 pm Post subject: -4 |
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Congrats 3iff!
Fungah! Foiled again! I got really lucky most of the game anyway, every time it came to my turn the rules reset, so i give no credit t myself getting this far. |
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| Zag |
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:33 am Post subject: -5 |
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| Grats, 3iff! Well done! |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:29 am Post subject: -6 |
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| And the after-the-fact addition of broken bold tags would not have been legal; it wasn't part of your rule. Not that it matters. |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 3:25 am Post subject: -7 |
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Unfortunately, "uall" and "nonbackwards" are both not correctly spelled. On you last rule, you used "non-backwards" and then removed the hyphen. So there was two capital letters in it. This time, only one capital letter was used.
Sorry, I cannot allow it to go one way once and another way the next time. "non-backwards" would require two capital letter and you failed to capitalize anything in the "backwards" portion. buzz
And 3iff is the winner! |
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| MNOWAX |
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:56 pm Post subject: -8 |
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| Zag wrote: |
I don't think it is quite the same. This rule specifically has to do with tags. The other rule was about punctuation, and then a tag got accidentally inserted at the end, which the forum software does if you had left one of the tag buttons still in the open state. I would say that the latter error (that is, an extra close tag at the end) is still not to be buzzed, as long as the bold is in the right place. But this doesn't exempt all tag mistakes. |
In the previous quote tage rule, i stated if you screwed up the quote tag, you couldn't be penalized for it. ( ie [/quote ) The same holds true for bold tags ( if for instance in the rule you see [b]aLl[/b} That wouldn't be a buzzworthy offense, becasue the intent was to bold it) |
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| Dread Pirate Westley |
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:32 pm Post subject: -9 |
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| MNOWAX wrote: |
| Wen Elur auLl Nonbackwards selUr Must eVah eHt boLd |
I doubt this will be sustained, but I prefer to read the rules much more strictly.
Buzz: You state that nonbackwards rules must be bold (pretty sure you meant to say words), but your rule is not backwards and is only partially bold. |
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| Zag |
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:12 pm Post subject: -10 |
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| Amb* wrote: |
| No matter how I try to say 'Yank' it does not sound like it starts with ee... |
Try saying "ee ank" as two syllables. Then say it faster and faster until that first syllable has collapsed into just a modifier of the a in ank.
This process is possibly clearer in the similarity of the English word "we" and the French word "oui." The W sound of we is really just an abbreviated "ou."
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| like my previous rule, you can't be buzzed for tag errors when it you intended to bold the correct word. |
I don't think it is quite the same. This rule specifically has to do with tags. The other rule was about punctuation, and then a tag got accidentally inserted at the end, which the forum software does if you had left one of the tag buttons still in the open state. I would say that the latter error (that is, an extra close tag at the end) is still not to be buzzed, as long as the bold is in the right place. But this doesn't exempt all tag mistakes. |
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| MNOWAX |
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:02 pm Post subject: -11 |
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| like my previous rule, you can't be buzzed for tag errors when it you intended to bold the correct word. |
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| MNOWAX |
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:01 pm Post subject: -12 |
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| Wen Elur auLl Nonbackwards selUr Must eVah eHt boLd |
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| Amb* |
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 7:42 am Post subject: -13 |
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| No matter how I try to say 'Yank' it does not sound like it starts with ee... |
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| groza528 |
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:56 pm Post subject: -14 |
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| MatthewV wrote: |
| Buoy is an interesting one because the pronunciation changes regionally. It can be either like "boy" or "boi-ee". |
I pronounce it "boo-ee."
And without meaning to derail, I would argue that Y should *always* be a vowel. Even in "yank" it is making a (very quick) 'ee' sound. By the same token I think W should always be a vowel, though only puzzlers/linguists *ever* consider it one. |
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| 3iff |
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 6:39 am Post subject: -15 |
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| Zag wrote: |
| I was responding to his post 109. I saw that he had excluded it, but I was just clarifying why that was such a good idea. |
That's why I asked for a clarification as to whether it was considered a vowel or not. As there was no previous ruling on it, I decided that I would declare it a non-vowel. Not doing so would have caused even more confusion. |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:42 pm Post subject: -16 |
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| Buoy is an interesting one because the pronunciation changes regionally. It can be either like "boy" or "boi-ee". |
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| Zag |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:17 pm Post subject: -17 |
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| I was responding to his post 109. I saw that he had excluded it, but I was just clarifying why that was such a good idea. |
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| Sentran |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:39 pm Post subject: -18 |
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| Zag wrote: |
| You are asking for trouble if you make any rule concerning vowels without specifying how Y will be treated, usually to say that it isn't one. |
3iff gave instructions on how the Y should be treated in the rule, so I'm not sure why you posted this. As I read it, "exclude the letter Y" means that you can not use it as one of the swapped vowels. |
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| Zag |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:12 pm Post subject: -19 |
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You are asking for trouble if you make any rule concerning vowels without specifying how Y will be treated, usually to say that it isn't one. It is very tricky to determine whether it is or isn't a vowel in words. For instance:
myth: clearly a vowel
yank: clearly not a vowel
boy: pretty certainly a vowel
buoy: ok. this one too.
buoyant: ????
Of course, by any definition that makes Y a vowel in "boy," then W should also be a vowel in "bow." And how about the GH in "though" or in "sigh"? |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:59 pm Post subject: -20 |
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| Words could be misspelled as either wuords or wourds. I can't dictate how you misspell something. |
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| MNOWAX |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:09 pm Post subject: -21 |
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BUZZ
"wourds" are the vowels swapped here? |
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| 3iff |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:24 am Post subject: -22 |
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| reHtona elUr wourdS wIth yltCaxe Two tnecAjda sleWov Must eVah ehT slewoV swaP sEcalp reTfa apPlying aLl rehTo selUr slewoV edUlcxe eHt rettEl Y |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:09 am Post subject: -23 |
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| Y isn't specified in this game. You may say in your post that it is never a vowel. |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:08 am Post subject: -24 |
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| The main problem I had is that it would have been completely normal to ignore the existence of the hyphen in the lazy-and-ignorant-youthful fashion. |
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| 3iff |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 7:03 am Post subject: -25 |
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Clarification.
Is "Y" a vowel , a consonant or isn't it specified. |
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| 3iff |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: -26 |
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| Ok. Actually, I wouldn't have buzzed for the hyphen-no hyphen... |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:53 am Post subject: -27 |
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| Yes. |
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| 3iff |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:52 am Post subject: -28 |
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| So, is that buzz rejected? Is it my turn to add a rule? |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:43 am Post subject: -29 |
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| Buzzing would be too much of a nitpick. I would if I felt it was a forgotten space, but it has the feel of a removed hyphen. |
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| bgg1996 |
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 5:14 am Post subject: -30 |
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| Maybe if it said, "remove punctuation", but it just said "no punctuation". The word isn't spelled any less wrong because of it. |
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| MNOWAX |
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| Sentran |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject: -32 |
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Another peanut gallery chime-in:
Non-backwards would be the correct usage. If the hyphen is considered punctuation and therefore removed, nonbackwards is not spelled incorrectly.
My opinion is that no rules have been broken, the rule should not have been buzzed, and play should continue. |
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| bgg1996 |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:32 am Post subject: -33 |
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No results found for nonbackwards:
Did you mean nonubiquitous?
His rule says one must be misspelled.
The two interpretations are at least one, and exactly one.
Exactly one is the stricter interpretation, so you'll be going with that, I assume, since at least one doesn't seem very obvious by the way he wrote it.
Since he spellled nonubiquitous (very) wrong as well as must,
buzz. |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:06 am Post subject: -34 |
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But your rule also contains two misspellings: "nonbackwards" and "musst".
~thinking~ |
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| MatthewV |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:03 am Post subject: -35 |
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non-backwards -> nonbackwards ?
I think the hyphen could be considered punctuation. But I am not an expert on such things. |
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| MNOWAX |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:00 am Post subject: -36 |
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every rule must have a capital letter. it fulfills the requirement of the rule
and I'm just getting warmed up matt. 3iff, prepare to meet your maker.. |
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| carrier_of_the_arch |
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 2:30 am Post subject: -37 |
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I read that rule as meaning the word must contain at least one capital
(As a side note, I am enjoying where these rules are heading ) |
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| Dread Pirate Westley |
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:10 pm Post subject: -38 |
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| Buzz: The rules unclearly call for a (singular) capital letter and NonBackwards has two. |
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