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AhoInu
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2002 9:18 pm Post subject: 1 |
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Any queries/orders email john@asimere.com, Subject Diplomacy 3(AM).
I have orders from Carthage and Persia. With these orders mith wins with 19. I can't see how Rome and Greece can save 2 SC's, so I declare mith the winner. Game Over.
Map is here . Adjudication Wednesday midnights GMT, Late orders may be entered as NMR in this game.
All results are here.
Everything important will be in this post, so check here first.
I will adjudicate and publish a map and new positions in this post. You can send me provisional moves which can be over-ridden if you wish. Deadlines below, subject to change if necessary.
The adjudication may be appealed if I've screwed up badly.
[This message has been edited by AhoInu (edited 02-02-2003 07:43 AM).] |
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Ferris
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2002 10:49 pm Post subject: 2 |
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| Carthage is open for business. |
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CrystyB
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Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2002 11:07 pm Post subject: 3 |
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| Hehe, Rome... I always wanted to be Caesar. Diplomacy channels opened. |
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Fried Egg
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 8:54 am Post subject: 4 |
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| Athens enters the fray... |
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mith
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 1:52 pm Post subject: 5 |
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| Persia is here. |
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Sparhawk
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Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2002 2:25 pm Post subject: 6 |
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Alexandria is open as well. Come see the famous Nile Hippos and stay for some serious negotiations!
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 2:16 am Post subject: 7 |
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RULES FOR THE ANCIENT MEDITERRANEAN
The normal rules of the game of Diplomacy apply, with the following additions, exceptions and clarifications.
HOME SUPPLY CENTERS AND STARTING POSITIONS OF THE POWERS
Rome (red) fleet Neapolis army Roma army Ravenna
Carthage (dark blue) fleet Thapsus army Cirta army Carthage
Greece (green) fleet Sparta army Athens army Macedonia
Persia (black) fleet Sidon army Antioch army Damascus
Egypt (yellow) fleet Alexandria army Memphis army Thebes
Note that on the map, home supply centers are designated by a dot with a circle around it, whereas supply centers which start the game unowned, are designated by a plain dot. As in the normal rules, a power may build new units only in its home supply centers.
VICTORY CRITERIA
18 supply centers.
MOVE DATES AND ADJUSTMENTS
As in the normal rules, each turn alternates between Spring and Fall, starting the game on a Spring turn, with adjustments being made after a Fall turn. Each successive Spring the year increases by one. The gameÕs first year is 01 AD.
IMPASSABLE SPACES
Any areas that are not named on the board are not passable. The Atlantic Ocean can not be occupied by any units.
ISLANDS
Islands are distinct spaces. An island may be occupied by an army or a fleet. Each island has one continuous coast, therefore a fleet on an island may move to any space adjacent to it. For example, a fleet could move from the Egyptian Sea to Crete in one turn, and then move to the Aegean Sea in the next turn.
MOVEMENT ACROSS NARROW STRAITS
Arrows on the board indicate two adjacent land spaces. An army may move from one space to the other in one turn without being convoyed. Because they are adjacent, fleets may also move from one space to the other in one turn.
BYZANTIUM
Byzantium is one space which straddles a waterway. The waterway allows movement of a fleet in Byzantium to any adjacent coastal space or sea space. The waterway does not impede the movement of an army through Byzantium. And it is a supply center. In other words, it works just like Constantinople in the standard game.
BALEARES
Baleares is a single space which consists of the islands and the water around them. Since it contains both land and water, it can be occupied by a fleet or an army. However, it is still considered one single space and can only be occupied by one unit at a time. Although an army can occupy Baleares, it can not move there directly from the mainland spaces since the islands are too far from the coast. For an army to enter or leave Baleares, it would have to be convoyed by a fleet in the Berber Sea or the Ligurian Sea. Since Baleares consists mostly of water, it is considered a sea space for the purposes of convoys, therefore a fleet occupying Baleares may be used to convoy an army using the normal convoy rules. Baleares is a supply center.
FOUR-WAY INTERSECTION IN THE HIGH SEAS
In the middle of the board there is an area where four sea spaces come together at one point. They are the Ausonian Sea, Messenian Sea, Gulf of Tacape and Libyan Sea. All four of these spaces are adjacent to each of the other three at that point. Therefore, a fleet in one of these spaces may move to any of the other three.
Also, by virtue of the expanse of the open seas, fleets can pass each other in a criss-cross fashion without impeding each others' movement. For example, a Roman fleet could move from the Ausonian Sea to the Libyan Sea and a Greek fleet could move from the Messenian Sea to the Gulf of Tacape on the same turn and both of these moves would be allowed. Note that this criss-crossing is not the same as two units exchanging places. For example, if a Roman fleet tried to move from the Ausonian Sea to the Libyan Sea and an Egyptian fleet tried to move from the Libyan Sea to the Ausonian Sea on the same turn, these moves would not be allowed due to the normal rules.
THE DIOLKOS
The border between Sparta and Athens effectively works like a canal. It cuts across the isthmus and allows fleets to move through. For example, a fleet in the Aegean Sea could move to Athens and then, on the following turn, to the Ionian Sea. Note that in game terms, this means Athens effectively has one continuous coast. Armies can freely move between Sparta and Athens.
The historical precedence for this is not an actual canal. The Diolkos was a roadway built by the Greeks for the purpose of moving ships across the isthmus.
THE NILE RIVER AND CANAL
The Nile River acts as the boundary between the spaces on its east and west banks. The river is not a space on the board. It can not be occupied by any units. However, it is considered to be navigable. Therefore, a fleet may move between spaces that are adjacent along the river. For example, Sinai to Thebes, Thebes to Memphis, Memphis to Alexandria would all be legal moves for a fleet. Memphis to Cyrene would not be a legal move for a fleet. Egypt can build fleets in any of its home supply centers.
There is also a canal that connects the Nile River to the Reed Sea. It acts as the boundary between Sinai and Thebes. It is also navigable and therefore allows fleet movement between Sinai, Thebes and Reed Sea. Reed Sea is not adjacent to the Gulf of Pelusium or Alexandria. Notice that due to the various waterways and coasts that Sinai and Thebes each have one continuous coast.
Armies can freely move across the Nile River and canal.
There actually is much precedence for a canal connecting the Nile River to the Red Sea in ancient history.
THE NILE RIVER DELTA
The Nile River Delta is not a distinct space on the board. It can not be occupied by any units. There are four spaces which are in contact with the delta. They are Alexandria, Thebes, Sinai and the Gulf of Pelusium. All four of these spaces are considered to be adjacent to each of the other three, at all times, by virtue of the multiple water channels in the delta. This provides increased flexibility concerning the movement of fleets. A fleet in any of these four spaces may move to any of the other three. The delta does not impede the movement of armies. An army in any of the three land spaces in contact with the delta, may move to either of the other two.
The key to remember is that Thebes is always adjacent to the Gulf of Pelusium AND Alexandria is always adjacent to Sinai (in addition to the obvious adjacancies). For example, a fleet could move from Thebes to the Gulf of Pelusium and, on the same turn, an army or a fleet, could move from Alexandria to Sinai.
CONVOY CLARIFICATIONS
As in the normal rules, no fleet in a land space can convoy armies. This includes any coastal space, island, Byzantium and land spaces adjacent to the Nile River or the delta. Baleares is considered primarily a sea space for the purposes of convoys, therefore a fleet occupying it may be used to convoy an army using the normal convoy rules.
ABBREVIATIONS FOR ANCIENT MED NAMES
For almost every space on the board, the first three letters of the name are used for its abbreviation. This includes spaces which have two words in the name. So the Egyptian Sea is Egy and the Cilician Strait is Cil. None of the letters in the words "sea" or "strait" are used. However, names that have three words in them use the first letter of each of the three words. So the Gulf of Pelusium is GoP. There are only a few exceptions to these guidelines due to redundancies. The following is a complete list of the exceptions to the "use the first three letters" rule.
Gulf of Pelusium = GoP
Gulf of Syrtis = GoS
Gulf of Tacape = GoT
Sardinia = Sad
Sarmatia = Sam
Sinai = Sii
Sinope = Sip
Tyre = Tye
Tyrrhenean Sea = Tyn
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CrystyB
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 3:37 am Post subject: 8 |
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ok, then the ABBREV's of the home SC's are in the GLDip003. A few notes on that file though: the first table is too large , and the link to the map does NOT feature the naming you said you would use  |
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 2:53 pm Post subject: 9 |
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| CrystyB. The first table has about 4 years already set up. But only one of the links is enabled. As I produce the maps I enable the links. And you are right, The first link does not conform to my new naming convention. I shall fix this in all three games shortly. However it does involve renaming about 40 files, copying them to my server, changing all the permissions, updating the html, and is a non-trivial task. If you follow the links from the first post, then the names, in a sense, don't matter. cheers john |
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CrystyB
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Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2002 4:33 pm Post subject: 10 |
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I meant could you do the new name thingy only for this one? I KNEW it would have been hectic to go over all the other again...
And the 'matter'-ing of the names is relevant when saved offline, in a 'history' folder. But i renamed the ones for Dip1 and Dip2 myself, so i didn't want to make you do it. I just thought begining a new game would best be done with the new names.
You definitely have to give up modding for the near future - you do too much work!!! |
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2002 4:37 pm Post subject: 11 |
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| Bump!. Orders by Wednesday midnight GMT please |
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Fried Egg
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Posted: Tue Mar 26, 2002 3:17 pm Post subject: 12 |
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This is an announcement to say that I will be uncontactable from 26-Mar-2002 17:30 to 02-Apr-2002 09:00 (GMT).
So, I shall be back in time for last minute diplomacy before the next turn's deadline. |
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 3:27 am Post subject: 13 |
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| I will allow an extra 24 hours in this case, if I don't have all orders. Anyway I fear that the Pax Mediterranea is about to be shattered. I will publish any entertaining emails I receive in the orders file, as part of the history of this great conflict. With Ferris and mith on board, I'm hoping for great things. It is Fall 01, Ram the b****d; Ram him |
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 1:32 pm Post subject: 14 |
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A change of orders crossed with my adjudication. The email was in time, so one unit is now in a different position. (and if you didn't see the previous position, well it doesn't really matter)  |
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CrystyB
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Posted: Thu Mar 28, 2002 10:21 pm Post subject: 15 |
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I'd like to appologise for this. It was my fault (you can see that b/c John did not rebuilt the order (01a) map. ) |
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Fri Mar 29, 2002 12:40 pm Post subject: 16 |
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| Oh dear, so I didn't. Ah well, since you've pointed it out CristyB; yes it was you. I'll leave it as it is in that case. Sorry for not checking before I posted the new positions (It would have been in my in-tray by then) |
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CrystyB
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2002 2:33 pm Post subject: 17 |
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(bump) Could you please make the first 3 words of the first post of the Dip3 a link to here? I always check that out believing this to be Dip3. I'll name it DI(AM) in my e-mails from now on...
<url=http://www.greylabyrinth.com/Forums/Forum9/HTML/000857.html>Ancient Med Variation started</url>
[This message has been edited by CrystyB (edited 04-03-2002 07:53 PM).] |
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2002 3:54 pm Post subject: 18 |
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Don't understand. Tell me what you want put where and I'll do it (or say No)  |
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AhoInu
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Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2002 9:34 pm Post subject: 19 |
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Time for Builds. You have 3 each. It might be fair to say that so do I  |
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LoopyDog
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 5:06 am Post subject: 20 |
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Builds completed. It's mayhem time Spring 2. |
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Fried Egg
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Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2002 11:22 am Post subject: 21 |
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| I fear the peace in the Med is about to be shattered |
Whatever gives you that impression? I thought this was a game of peace... |
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Ferris
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 9:12 pm Post subject: 22 |
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Assuming deadlines are still midnight, GMT, I've got my orders in with a couple of hours to spare.
Really must get more organised.  |
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AhoInu
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Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2002 11:49 pm Post subject: 23 |
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| Spring 2 is adjudicated. I regret to say that there appears to be a teensy-weensy bit of friction in the Mediterranean. Come on guys - this could last for a couple of thousand years if you don't behave. No retreats, but a couple of bounces. It is Fall 2, Diplomacy time. |
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CrystyB
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 12:04 am Post subject: 24 |
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well you sure got me worried. There were no conflicts to be expected IN THE MED, but rather in the land area surrounding it... But there's going to be Pax Mediterrana in a few years, so don't worry about a thing. TY for your commitment to modding this as originally planned!
[This message has been edited by CrystyB (edited 04-10-2002 08:06 PM).] |
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Ferris
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 1:24 am Post subject: 25 |
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| AhoInu, shouldn't you be resting? Or was LoopyDog too hungover to adjudicate after the champagne? |
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AhoInu
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 2:43 am Post subject: 26 |
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| I'm fine now. I don't think I'm a very good mother - just waiting to get the puppies adopted - as long as they go to nice people. I mean I wouldn't let that nasty Hy get his hands on one. Normal service has been resumed, and the DogPack are being quite nice, but I can tell they wish it was all over. I've had to promise to behave in future, or DDF will have to make an honest woman of me. Sigh. It's all mith and Luna's fault anyway. |
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mith
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Posted: Thu Apr 11, 2002 2:54 am Post subject: 27 |
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| We didn't *make* you... nevermind. |
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Macros
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 8:39 pm Post subject: 28 |
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chein said i could play, so  |
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Macros
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Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2002 9:03 pm Post subject: 29 |
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my bad, well im blaming chein, wrong thread, its diplomacy 3 im supposed to sign up in  |
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Fried Egg
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 7:34 am Post subject: 30 |
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Hmmm...There appears to be another delay... |
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ChienFou
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 5:00 pm Post subject: 31 |
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| Nope, AhoInu is working on the orders as I watch her. CrystyB hasn't sent in any yet, but he's got another 6 hours. Deadline is midnight Wednesday BST, which must be 7 pm East Coast IIRC. Heaven knows what time it is in Chuckland though. |
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mith
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 5:46 pm Post subject: 32 |
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| Chuck lives outside of time, I think. |
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AhoInu
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Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2002 9:25 pm Post subject: 33 |
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ChienFou is furious. I've run up huge 'phone bills calling DDF at Eeem's place. He'll have to come home soon. I've made him a nice Lancashire hotpot, served with pickled beetroot. I've still got a puppy loafing around, leaving mess everywhere, and generally upsetting the smooth running of the kennel. locoLobo's being a sweety, always rushing out for pizza, but it would be nice to have my room back to myself. Anyway, enough of my problems: I've adjudicated and posted the game. You are all very naughty people attacking each other like that. Make love, not War, I say. (mind you, you can see where it got me).
Persia and Rome get 2 builds each. asap please |
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AhoInu
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 3:06 am Post subject: 34 |
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| Well, there you go, war triremes all over the Med. I'll give you TokigHund back unless you behave. Actually we got a postcard from him yesterday, he's male modelling in a SF bar, and says he'll be back once the puppies have gone. Babies are not his cop of tea he says. I don't think they're mine either. OOh but I do miss DDF, your dinner's ready dear. |
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Fried Egg
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Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2002 7:50 am Post subject: 35 |
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| Sorry, lost track of the days! |
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AhoInu
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 12:34 am Post subject: 36 |
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Retreats needed please asap
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AhoInu
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Posted: Thu Apr 25, 2002 10:58 am Post subject: 37 |
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| Retreats posted, It is Fall in Year 3. Wednesday deadline |
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TokigHund
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Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2002 9:20 pm Post subject: 38 |
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Hi girls! I expected to get back to see an overflowing In-Tray, with AhoInu ploughing [plowing - yuck] her way through it. No orders at all yet. Ah well, NMR is the easiest to adjudicate. Now where did I leave my posing pouch? Gah! Give it back KrankiHund; its not a toy!
Bump!
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AhoInu
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Posted: Thu May 02, 2002 1:54 am Post subject: 39 |
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| Fall 3 adjudicated. No retreats. A build for Egypt and a Remove for Greece, asap please |
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AhoInu
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Posted: Fri May 03, 2002 2:02 pm Post subject: 40 |
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It's spring again. The daffodils are blooming, the birds are singing and the world is a delightful plce to be. (unless you're an oarsman in one of the war triremes motoring up and down the med). Now I want you all to make love not war, or something like that, - but will you listen? Gah! Moves by Wednesday please  |
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