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Werebear · Daedalian Member

To all newbies who are considering joining a mafia, please take the time to read up on mafia! The site at Mafiascum.net has information on roles. Mith's mafia message board is at www.mafiascum.net/phpbb2/index.php [it's down at the moment though

]. The more you read, the smoother the game will go, and the less chance you will make a mistake costing you your life. Here is a list of games on this board to read:

FINISHED MAFIA THREADS:
Mafia 45
Mafia 43 - Bladerunner Mafia
Mafia 42 - Wheel of Time mafia
Verbose Mafia
Mafia Invitational
Mafia 39
Mafia 38
Mafia 34 - Pokemafia!

CURRENTLY RUNNING MAFIAS
Mafia 48, Vampires and Werewolves and Mafia, oh my!
Newbie Mafia 6
Mafia 50 - The Salem Witch Trials
Simpsons Mafia
Return of the Jedi Mafia

Werebear

[updated the link to the mafiascum boards - mole]

[This message has been edited by mole (edited 07-03-2002 08:30 AM).]

crackerjack · Daedalian Member

This post was probably for my benefit since I am in two games and screwed up in both!

The mafiascum.net site is down. At least I haven't been able to access it in a few days.

Cadmium · Heavy Metal

If you want information on roles, you can go to Mafiascum.net like Werebear said. But the Message Board has another URL. You can also click on the forums link on the Mafiascum.net page to reach the board. While posting this, the server is down, but I hope it will be fixed soon.

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F U cn rd dis U mst uz Unix.

RoadBird · Daedalian Member

Cadmium, the URL Werebear posted also works. It's the one I always use.

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Cadmium · Heavy Metal

That's probably because you looked at that link after it was changed

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Internet Stranger · Paragon of Mafia Hunters

Actually, what irks me more than anything is lack of participation. If you plan on not being around for some time or plan to abandon the game, let the mod know and be replaced.

I have seen many good (and bad) games totally be murdered by lack of participation. Werebear, I expect a 3 page dicertation over this matter.

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"I didn't know she was your sister I swear!"

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Macros · Daedalian Member

it would appear that your wish is not eing granted IS, but i do agree, if you know you're going to be leaving, inform the mod, and even arrange a replacement yourslef if possible

Werebear · Daedalian Member

*Grin* You know my pet peeve, IS. If you're there to play, then play. Don't keep silent in the hopes of everyone leaving you alone, because I for one won't. RIGHT, JADESMAR?
Werebear

Beartalon · 'Party line' kind of guy

Does having friends in the real Mafia count as participation?

Macros · Daedalian Member

well, if you help them out now and again, yes

jadesmar · Bad Puppy

Yeah.. even when you aren't allowed to talk werebear will pick on you

Werebear · Daedalian Member

So I make mistakes too. And I thought you weren't allowed to talk! Anywhere! For a week! *grin* Maybe we could have one of our erstwhile mods to make another permanent message at the top of this forum entitled "READ THIS IF YOU WANNA PLAY MAFIA", and include the links? This might save on newbie questions. Maybe also encourage talking among those not too drunk to speak, like jadesmar. You lucky dog.

Werebear

Macros · Daedalian Member

i'll do it if mith or Hy can lock it near the top

crackerjack · Daedalian Member

I do have one really stupid newbie question. what the heck does FOS stand for? lol

I what it means, but what does it stand for exactly?

mikeamok · Daedalian Member

Finger Of Suspicion, for pointing and stuff.

Orbiting · very ign-o-rable

Finger Of Suspicion

And Werebear will mess with you regardless of what you do - it's a law of nature or something.

-o-
(*picks on Werebear*)

crackerjack · Daedalian Member

Thanks...Saberkitty actually spelled it out in one of her posts!

Another question: What is an insane/sane cop?

[This message has been edited by crackerjack (edited 07-10-2002 03:25 PM).]

Ameb · Daedalian Member

A sane cop is just a normal cop. An insane cop gets the opposite answers (I believe), so if the person he checked was innocent, then he would be told "guilty", and if the person was guilty, he would be told "innocent".

Werebear · Daedalian Member

There are actually four DEFINED cops:

Normal - you find bad guys guilty, and good guys innocent.
Paranoid - Everyone's guilty.
Naive - Everyone's not guilty
Insane - Either you find bad guys not guilty and good guys guilty, or you get a completely random answer.

Werebear

quercitron · Don't trust Robinson

Cops:

Normal: get correct
Insane: get reversed
Paranoid: get guilty
Naïve: get innocent
Random/Lazy: coin flip
Retired: activated when a Cop dies, acquire his sanity.

Hitchhiker · Finally got a ride.

crackerjack: if you click "Edit" on someone else's post you can see what formatting tags they used. (Since you asked about quote tags in Newb Maf 6: they are [ quote ] text [ / quote ] without the spaces.)

Werebear · Daedalian Member

Oh, one other thing you might add to general info - if you're playing mafia, don't be thin skinned. Translation: Be prepared to be put upon, doubted, and called ludicrous, and have your opinions publicly torn apart. It's just a game, and people aren't really out to get you. Except for me, I'm a bloodthirsty ravener looking for a kill, right, IS? *Grin*

Werebear

Internet Stranger · Paragon of Mafia Hunters

Yes, you would eat your own furry babies if you thought they were mafia.

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Werebear · Daedalian Member

...they ARE? I always thought so. Vote: My own furry babies.

COME HERE KIDS! TIME FOR DINNER!

Werebear

HyToFry · Drama queen

I'd gladly lock this at the top. Just give the word when you're done perfecting it.

Werebear · Daedalian Member

um. Maybe we can have one informative message, with less furry babies in it. Or not.

Werebear

crackerjack · Daedalian Member

Another question for the more experienced:

In a smallish game (i.e. 4 mafia, two cops, two docs), what would the strategy be for a cop who identified a mafia early on? Would the cop come out and point out the mafia and then ask for protection from the docs?

Improbable · Daedalian Member

I have a question(s)....

In some scenarios, a townsperson (known or not) can be (temporarily) lynch-proof.

Assuming that this were/were not known to the rest of the town and that they don't know the length of the term of immunity, is it possible this person to be helpful?

Wouldn't this person (even if it were for one lynch only) be annoying to the town? - If they are not determined to be innocent (which is likely), how should the town cope with this?

---As a known lynch-proof would have to be targeted by the Mafia for them to win, what should a revealed lynch-proof (through attempted/failed lynching) do?

N.B. I've not been in this situation yet. I'm just curious about tactics.

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Werebear · Daedalian Member

If a cop finds a mafia... that's a tough one. Trading a cop for a mafia is an incredibly bad trade. The only way that works is if there's docs to protect the cop, then it's a race how fast the mafia can find the docs and kill them vs. how fast the cop can investigate. Check out the Magic:The Gathering mafia to see the clearest example of this. Of course, if you're a paranoid cop, coming out early is a BAD thing, just ask Arthur Wilkins in the Salem Witch mafia (50), who got a judge lynched, then got killed by the madman. I think the best method is to make sure your votes reflect your research, bide your time, and when the time comes, come out and pray for protection.

Werebear

Mike_Amok · Daedalian Member

Hey, isn't this what "Ask IS" was supposed to be for?

Soothsayer · *Sets Up Hotdog Stand*

If you are a cop and have found a mafia member, I woul always recommend pointing the FOS at that person and carry on voting for others in the game.

The mafia wont kill you because if they do, the town will see you are a cop and then look at your FOS. I've done this tactic many times and it never fails... well only rarely

[This message has been edited by Soothsayer (edited 07-15-2002 12:00 PM).]

Macros · Daedalian Member

why not keep this thread open, and someone make a locked topic at the top that can be updated now and again

Werebear · Daedalian Member

FoS Soothsayer for spreading vicious, nasty truths.

Werebear

Nauplius · Crustacean Member

Quick question: what does OMGUS mean?

Ameb · Daedalian Member

"Oh my god, you suck!" Usually used when you vote for someone for voting for you.

Nauplius · Crustacean Member

Thats what I thought but the U was throwing me.