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Simpsons Mafia Part II (Part II)
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Bear Skin Rug
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 7:55 pm    Post subject: 241 Reply with quote

I was't afraid of killing you. I thought you would help me more than Logain and Apu, who both were halfway to launching me. Stupid cat! *cackle*

Werebear
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Corsato
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 9:09 pm    Post subject: 242 Reply with quote

This is actually the first time I have the decisive vote and won.
Damn it feels good
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Mike_Amok
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 10:36 pm    Post subject: 243 Reply with quote

Well done, fellow furry friend! And to think, I considered letting you get lynched to see if it might activate your powers.
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Diplomat
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 11:56 pm    Post subject: 244 Reply with quote

Damn, I really thought Soothsayer was Snake. As I was just reading this, the suspence was killing me. Good job, Corsato. That was a pretty cool ending.

Werebear, that was expertly played. The one thing that bothered me was that you never got killed. If it was anyone else who talked as much as you did, they would have been killed a long time ago. I know I would have. I actually thought you might be the last mafia.
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 1:55 am    Post subject: 245 Reply with quote

TOWN: You can all start thanking me for the no kill right about now .

WEREBEAR: Thanks for killing Smithers.

FELLOW MAFIA: Sorry guys. Smithers was supposed to be on our side, I banked on it too much.

MOD: Apu was way too powerful.

ALIENS: Ha ha. Ha ha ha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh man.

THE FRICKIN' CAT: Exactly how are you and Apu going to repopulate the town, anyway?
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Logain
Stretch Armstrong



PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 2:01 am    Post subject: 246 Reply with quote

quercitron, when I got my role it simply said something like, "you are Smithers, you are a normal townie" with a brief background saying why I left Mr. Burns.

I emailed a follow-up to HD to make sure I was just a townie and all I got was that something may happen during the game that can effect me. Until someone else or HD confirms, I was assuming I could've been corrupted if Mr.Burns found me or something like that.
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Internet Stranger
Paragon of Mafia Hunters



PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 3:59 am    Post subject: 247 Reply with quote

I knew that Logain could have been guilty had he been recruited by Burns. I tried really hard to get this fact across without giving away the fact that I knew this was 100% possible.

How did I know? Kang was supposed to recruit Maggie, but my cohorts picked the one person that could retaliate against them before I joined. Go figure.

I was still lynched by personal vendetta, not because I was suspicious =0)
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jeep
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 4:27 am    Post subject: 248 Reply with quote

I don't think that Apu was so overpowered. It just happened that his surviving the first attack made the baddies afraid to try again. And there were THREE killing groups in this game!

I was Dr. H- I was a super doc, the person I protected survived the night *no matter what happened to them that night.*

It was a fun game, thanks all for playing and HD for modding.
-JEEP
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Corsato
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 7:08 am    Post subject: 249 Reply with quote

As posted by Werebear, I've left town. Of course after I got a hotdog from APU.
I'm currently roaming over the country, leaving APU with a restaurant in a city with no inhabitants

I have no intention to repopulate the town with APU. Just thinking about mating with a 'Human' makes me feel sick
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Soothsayer
*Sets Up Hotdog Stand*



PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 8:03 am    Post subject: 250 Reply with quote

Excellent work everyone and thanks for modding it.

I don't think my role was too powerful, what I believe happened was that the mafia thought that an attack on me was a waste of an opportunity and so failed to try and kill me at night. Whereas I said in the beginning of the game I would survive night attacks this was a lie as I my % chance of surviving a second assault would be down to 33%.

To Werebear - good fight and great closing arguement.

To Corsato - well done for picking the right player at the end.

To IS - no personal vendetta against you, I just knew that you were scum of some kind and needed to be lynched. It was obvious you were not on the towns side - note how I successfully picked evil people to be killed on each of the past three days.

Well done and thanks to everyone for a great game
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Cadmium
Heavy Metal



PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 8:37 am    Post subject: 251 Reply with quote

w00t!! Congrats to the town .

Great playing, Werebear. You were almost there. Corsato, thanx for preventing that. This should make up for that minigame you were talking about.

Now, who needs "smart" Lisa to get rid of the bad guys . Well, any "human" Simpson family member for that matter, actually. A cat will do just fine.

This was even fun to follow after being lynched the first day. Great game!

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F U cn rd dis U mst uz Unix.
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Corsato
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 9:05 am    Post subject: 252 Reply with quote

The worst about that minigame was the fact that IS won
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Cadmium
Heavy Metal



PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 9:14 am    Post subject: 253 Reply with quote

That and the fact that he was the only Mafia in the game .

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Corsato
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 10:13 am    Post subject: 254 Reply with quote

I can't remember much about the game, I seem to have suppressed everything about the game
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 6:10 pm    Post subject: 255 Reply with quote

*laugh* I still can't wait to hear the roles. That was another thing I was wondering about - the Simpsons themselves. Didn't they have ANY other powers? Also, you two cops, didn't you have any investigations?

Werebear
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jadesmar
Bad Puppy



PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 2:21 am    Post subject: 256 Reply with quote

From the desk of Chief Wiggam:
Night 1: Investigate mole, he is not mafia
Night 2: Investigate sweetwater, he is not mafia
Night 3: Investigate sketchwick, he is not mafia
Night 4: Investigate Ocular Gold, he is not mafia
Night 5: IS is not mafia
Night 6: Logain is not mafia.

So, was I incompetant as a police officer or just as a player Sadly.. I am guessing the latter.
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Internet Stranger
Paragon of Mafia Hunters



PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 2:35 am    Post subject: 257 Reply with quote

Nah, I would say Wiggum is either imcompetent or Burns(sweetwater) had cop immunity. But hey, no one thanked me for that kill yet.
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jadesmar
Bad Puppy



PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 3:08 am    Post subject: 258 Reply with quote

Thanks.. murdering alien scum.
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sketchwick
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 9:36 am    Post subject: 259 Reply with quote

In case anyone cares, Marge and I were searching for Maggie...who would join our mason group if found. Maggie could identify the GF.....

Homerwick
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 12:36 pm    Post subject: 260 Reply with quote

Too bad the GF was Fat Tony, who died immediately. Someone get Orbiting in here so she can tell what his "mafia superpowers" were.

Everyone knows I had a riot in this game, the only kill I regret was Grampa Simpson, I HAD to kill him before he fingered me, but I had so many other targets I wanted to axe... especially mafia and aliens!

Werebear
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Internet Stranger
Paragon of Mafia Hunters



PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 1:50 pm    Post subject: 261 Reply with quote

I dont know if anyone noticed, but Grandpa Abe led me to Burns. He said Sweetwater was out strolling about yet no one seemed to have picked up on that.
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Werebear
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 08, 2002 3:54 pm    Post subject: 262 Reply with quote

Yeah, and someone was "out strolling" in HP, and we lynched him because he was using IS tactics, and it was Madam Hooch. Bah.

Werebear
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Handsome Dan
My, he's handsome



PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2002 1:35 am    Post subject: 263 Reply with quote

Yes, this is the end. Snake has met his fate and Apu has rode off into the sunset with his new cat Snowball. Here is what the hell was going on, if you care to know.

The Roles (not to be confused with the emailed roles) :

Good

Family Simpson

Homer and Marge (Sketchwick and Zealot/Ocular Gold)
Consists of Homer, Marge, Bart and Lisa. Maggie, the youngest daughter has driven off in the family car and is now lost. Marge and Homer are looking for their daughter so she can rejoin the family. Once they find Maggie, she will be safe from being abducted by aliens, but if they find her after she has been abducted one of them will die. Each night they send one of themselves out to investigate and have the same odds of finding Maggie.

Bart and Lisa (Puzzle Prodigy and Cadmium)
Bart and Lisa have spotted a UFO in the Springfield skies and have decided to investigate the situation. They can find out if someone is human or not. They cannot distinguish between animals and aliens. If one of them dies, the remaining one can still investigate. Each night they send one of themselves out to investigate and have the same odds of finding "not-humans".

Maggie (Vinny)
Maggie is lost, and her parents are looking for her. But she is more concerned with finding Mr. Burns. If she finds Mr. Burns, she will be informed as such. If Mr. Burns tries to find out if she is Smithers, he will die. If Maggie is found by her parents she will join their "good group". But if she is found by the aliens first she will sprout fangs and tentacles, becoming part of the aliens’ "evil group". If her parents find her after she has become an alien, one of them will die. Becoming part of either group does not end her search for Mr. Burns.

Cops


Chief Wiggum (mudster/jadesmar)
Chief Wiggum is hunting down the mafia who have recently moved into the area. If he investigates someone he will find out if they are mafia or not. But he can also get vague results when investigating Moe or Barney. See below.

Ralph Wiggum (Tyenar)
Ralph is essentially the village idiot. His vote is random until his father dies. At that point he inherits his father’s information and can vote as he pleases.

Rex Banner (DujRock)
Is looking out to take Chief Wiggum’s job. Will become a cop that investigates for mafia when Chief Wiggum does die.

Doctors

Doctor Hibbert (Jeep)
Standard doctor abilities, protect one person per night (no matter what).

Doctor Nick (Dread Pirate Westley)
Standard Doctor ability as well. Has a 25% chance of killing his patients by accident though.

Doctor Marvin Monroe (mith)
Family Psychiatrist. If he finds Bart or Lisa and Marge or Homer, he can bring both groups together. That is they will all know who the rest are, but Dr. Marvin Monroe will not know who any of them are. After he has reunited the family he has no more powers.

Townies

Krusty the Klown (Diplomat)
Everyone loves a Klown, so Krusty cannot be lynched during the day.

Abe Simpson (ChienFou)
The father of Homer and grandfather of Bart and Lisa. He lives in the Springfield Retirement Castle, and sits out on the porch every night. He has a 75% chance of seeing someone who is active every night.

Professor Frink (Antrax)
Professor Frink also observed the aliens’ UFO and has decided to investigate. He is in particular looking to find the leader of the aliens: Kang. If he finds Kang, he will be informed as such. If Kang finds Professor Frink while looking for Maggie, Professor Frink will most likely panic and accidentally kill Kang.

Smithers (Logain)
He doesn’t agree with Mr. Burns’ plans to take over Spingfield, so he is not part of his group and is part of the town. But if he is found by Mr. Burns he will become part of the mafia’s group. If and when he is part of the mafia’s group he can choose to protect a member of the mafia from night attacks each night (or kill, but they can't have more than one kill per night).

Apu Nahasapeemapetilon (Soothsayer)
Apu runs the Kwik-E-Mart, and is used to being robbed at gunpoint, thus he is 75% immune to night attacks. If he is attacked at night he is hospitalized and cannot talk or vote the following day. If he is attacked again the next night (after being hospitalized) there is only a 33.3% chance of him living. If he does live, he does not spend another day in traction. Since he has a security camera in the Kwik-E-Mart, if he makes it out of the hospital alive, his killer will be attacker will be revealed to him the night after he is in the hospital.

Moe Szyslak (JDTAY)
Moe waits in his bar for Barney to show up. If Moe is investigated by a cop, they will find him as involved in illegal activity, smuggling. Moe is a panda bear and whale smuggler, and is no threat to the town.

Barney Gumble (Eykir)
Is looking for Moe’s Tavern to hang out at. If he finds him, they will know who each other are in the game. If a cop investigates Barney before he finds Moe, he will get nothing. But if he investigates Barney after he is in Moe’s Tavern, he will see Barney as involved in illegal activity.

Duffman (Damelon)
Creates awareness of Duff. Gets one person per night drunk. They will be unable to talk the following day (they CAN vote). Is on the towns side, but is causing havoc. Each time he gets someone drunk, they have a 20% chance of discovering who he is. If he gets the same person drunk 4 nights in a row, they die from alcohol poisoning. If they discover him before they die, Duffman can no longer get them drunk. Nights that Duffman gets people drunk do not have to be consecutive.

Santa’s Little Helper (Mike_Amok)
The Simpsons’ dog. If any member of the Simpson family choses him while looking for someone else, that family member will be protected that night. The same character will not be protected twice. Santa’s Little Helper does not know he has this ability.

Snowball (Corsato)
The Simpsons’ cat. If she dies she will be ressurected the as Snowball II after one day. She can be ressurected only once. She is ignorant of her role. P.S. This is a referance to the very first independant episode.

Evil

The Mafia-Power Plant Conspiracy
Mr. Burns has decided to conspire with the mafia to take over the town. Each night this group sends out a kill choosing a person to do it. They all have the same likelihood of killing the target. To win they must kill everyone else in the town.

Mr. Burns (sweetwater)
Essentially the Godfather of the group. If cops investigate him, they get not-mafia. Mr. Burns can be sent out on any night to look for Smithers. If the mafia wants to kill at the same time, they must send a second person out to kill.

Fat Tony (Orbiting)
Mafia Superstar.

Legs and Louie (Pikachamp and quercitron)
Fat Tony’s boys.

Aliens
Aliens from another planet also have plans to take over Spingfeild and have infiltrated the population. Each night this group sends out a kill choosing a person to do it. They all have the same likelihood of killing the target. To win they must kill everyone else in the town.

Kang (mole)
The leader/godfather. Cannot be discovered by Bart and Lisa’s investigations, they will get the response "human". Kang can be sent out on any night to look for Maggie. If the aliens want to kill at the same time, they must send a second person out to kill.

Kodos (macros)
Kang’s Sister.

Serak the Preparer (Mr. President/Internet Stranger)
The cook for the aliens’ ship.

Alien-whose-name-can-only-be-pronounced-correctly-if-you-pull-out-your-tongue (The Cheshire Man)
The fourth alien.

Renegade

Snake (Werebear)
Snake escaped when Maggie crashed the car into the jail. He is now killing one person per night. His goal is to be the last person alive.


A few notes:

-If you like, I can email you my Microsoft Excel document for the game (it has night choices and so on).

-Soothsayer's role was powerful, but that could aslo be a downside becuase peopel might not have believed him. But he managed to post his role in anotehr thread. :-p I think It fit well into he game and he actually almost did die, IS almost killed him the night after he was hospitalized, but ended up killing Eykir instead.

-ChienFou/Grandpa Simpson's character was mroe powerful than I first anticipated. I tried to figure out all the roles' possibilities before the game started, but I seemed to have slipped here. I think he had a 25% chance of catching a badguy each night with all the percentages told. The main reason this slipped through is becasue this character was made quickly right before I started. When I realized I had to choose between him and Disco Stu, I chose him (see: Characters I would have liked to put in).

-If Soothsayter had been lynched, Werebear would presumably kill Corsato. This would have made Werebear win because for an entire day before Cosato was resurrected as Snowball II, Werebear would be the only person alive, thus fulfilling his winning condition.

-Please note that just as the two characters Barney and Moe could be confused with mafia (had they been togehter, otherwise just Moe would be suspiscious), Santa's Little Helper and Snowball could be mistakened for aliens because they were not human.

-Ideally all this breaking up of the Simpsons Family would have been much more plausible had mith/Dr. Marvin Monroe not died on the first night.

-I am terribly sorry about the late updating. I kept up pretty well, but a lot of time there were delays that could have probably been avoided. Some of them were intentional though. The night quercitron sent in "No Kill", I let the time limit run out to add to the ambiguousness. This last delay was due to my family vacation and was unavoidable (I just got back :-p).

Missing Characters

This game was originally suppposed to have 35 players, and thus I had to cut out some of the roles, some of which I really liked.

Pattie and Selma
Marge Simpson's twin sisters. They are another two-person mason group. If one of them died, the other would die on the following night.

Disco Stu
Disco Stu doesn't advertise, so if at any time the player makes referance to being Disco Stu, they will die spontaneously. If they are forced to claim a role, they must claim a different one.

Disco Stu could also choose to dance the night away with one player. This would protect both himself and the player that night from attacks. I never decided on him being able to do this two or three times during the game, but I did decided that he would not be able to do it two nights in a row (Disco Stu gets weary).

Ned Flanders
Every night Ned prays so he has a 5% chance of having God reveal to him one bad guy each night. Only one bad guy can be revealed in this way.

Nelson
A back-up Serial Killer. If Snake dies, Nelson, the school bully, takes his place (and only then is he a bad guy, he is on the town's side at first). Nelson has a 75% chance of killing someone. He and Snake do not know each other.

This was a great game to mod, and I'm glad it worked out as well as it did. In the beginning I kept wavering back and forth thinking the town was too strong or the baddies were too strong. Drove me nuts. :-p Never thought it would boil down to three players though. Well played.

...and that's it. If you have and further questions, I will be happy to answer them directly.

[This message has been edited by Handsome Dan (edited 08-11-2002 01:05 AM).]
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Internet Stranger
Paragon of Mafia Hunters



PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2002 1:45 am    Post subject: 264 Reply with quote

Quote:
-Soothsayer's role was powerful, but that could aslo be a downside becuase peopel might not have believed him. But he managed to post his role in anotehr thread. :-p I think It fit well into he game and he actually almost did die, IS almost killed him the night after he was hospitalized, but ended up killing Eykir instead.


Doh! I assumed that the whole night thing was a 1 time shot, but at the last minute decided not to risk it and go for more guaranteed targets.

If I hadnt been lynched, I was going to kill Sooth. I was mainly too busy looking for the doctor. Which I did kill the night before my catapultation. bah.

And im still bitter about Otto. I thought it was a good cover =0)
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Mike_Amok
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2002 1:53 am    Post subject: 265 Reply with quote

Excellent roles. Thanks for a fine game.

And for the record, all I was told about my ability was "if your owners find you, you can probably help them." I was so hoping to become a mason.
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quercitron
Don't trust Robinson



PostPosted: Sun Aug 11, 2002 4:09 am    Post subject: 266 Reply with quote

The night I chose no kill, I had the following kill attempt choices:

Werebear
Corsato
Soothsayer
Logain

The reason I chose no kill: I thought Sooth was Snake, and I really didn't want Snake to win. If I killed Corsato, I would most likely be lynched the next day, and Snake would win. The only way I could avoid Snake winning was...no kill. And I could even win if we lynched Snake; I would leave Logain and Corsato alive and attack Smithers all-out.

Oops. Oh well, I'll consider it a counter to Mafia 1 on mafiascum.net.

q
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