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[Internet Stranger]

Car Wash

Yikes, what a bunch of nutjobs. How could you not love Daddy Rich?
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[Guest]

Dazed and Confused. sucky...

[shanterusan]

Ju-On: The Grudge

Watched it on DVD *again* this weekend. It's still creepy. Though if anyone has seen the American version (I refuse to see it), I do have some questions about the clicking. Why does Kayako click? (I read reviews.) In Ju-On, she gurgles through the blood in her throat.

Although a gurgling, bonesnapping, bloodsoaked Sadako imitation is rather disturbing, the interviews and making-of included on the DVD make the whole film seem silly. But it doesn't feel silly when you watch it the first time (or two, or so...).

I'm not looking forward to the American remake of Dark Water any more than I want to see their remake of The Grudge.

[The Master]

I thought Ju-On was really bad. For some reason, I couldn't take it seriously at all and by the end was in hysterics. Neither scary nor a good story. If you want some good asian horror check out Kiyoshi Kurosawa. He is the only director to ever create a movie that frightened me.
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[Ataraxy]

Last movie I watched was Closer. I had heard they had edited out Natalie Portman's full frontal, but I thought she would still show her ta-ta's, but maybe I blinked and missed it cause I didn't see it. I was hoping her full frontal would be an extra on the DVD, but no dice.

The characters weren't quite as awful as I had heard. They weren't nice people, but they weren't the men in "In the Company of Men," either. "In the Company of Men" had the worst characters in a movie I liked. "Closer" was pretty good. Stylish, sharp dialogue, smart and strippers.

[shanterusan]

I agree that Ju-On was a crap story. The method in which the curse mutated was not very believable and the overly polished look spoils the creepiness. Personally the idea of Kayako creeped me out, but that's no thanks to the movie itself. Apparently the original TV movie that this is based on was far scarier, but as far as I know, it's not available internationally and cetainly not here.

Kiyoshi Kurosawa's movies are hard to get here (Brisbane, Australia, which pretends to be cultured but isn't). Korei, Kairo and Kyua I've heard of but probably won't get to see anytime soon. Which of his movie/s did you find scary?

Anyone want to shout me a plane trip to Japan?

[Antrax]

I watched Episode III, and I think it's terrible. The acting's unbelievably bad (Samuel L. Jackson, what have they done to you?), the plot is ridiculous and most of the fight scenes are done poorly. Also, why does everything in this movie have to make an annoying sound? Whenever they showed Obi Wan riding that... thing, I cringed in my seat as the stupid (though well-rendered) beast raped my eardrums. For shame.
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[The Master]

The only movie to have ever creeped me out in all the movies I have ever seen was Kurosawa's Kairo. It isn't a startling, loud noise type of "scared", the growing trend and last resort for hack filmmakers, such as SHAMalan, but a fear engenderd in shot composition and a slow, unrelenting story, which allows you to be taken in by the dark absorbing film. And saying you can't get a hold of his movies is not true. Get on ebay and you will find dozens of auctions.
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[extro...]

Rumor is there is going to be a Hollywood remake (which will undoubtedly suck in comparison, if not suck outright). Would be nice if they'd do an English dub of the original. Subtitles suck - I mean, it's not as if dubs can't be done well (though they're often not).

[shanterusan]

I'm afraid that the auctions are dodgy, I don't like ordering from overseas. And don't get me started on my adventures with Amazon...

[Travis]

I agree with what The Master said about The Grudge I couldn't sit through the thing, it was awful.

Just saw National Lampoon's Animal Home. It was just okay. [heavy sargassum, it's the best comedy on prime time tv]

[The Master]

[Guest]

When dialog is very fast, reading subtitles distracts one from the visual part of the film. If the visuals are complex, the kind of stuff where your eyes like to wander around the screen noticing the details (good anime comes to mind), and at the same time dialog is fast, you can't digest both. Is it fair to the director or audience that the audience's attention be drawn from spectacular visuals across the screen to focus on reading text at the bottom?

[extro...]

^me

[Travis*]

extro makes a good point and I agree.

[Travis*]

except for this....

[Dmi]

I prefer subtitles over dubbing. You can't really mess subtitles up. Dubbing, however, may just be some guy talking throughout the movie for all the different characters. And they could also take the freedom of making sarcasm and stuff like that where there's spposd to be none, and vice versa.

[Chuck]

Tonight I watched the 2002 version of The Time Machine and Highlander, Endgame.

[Samadhi]

And you're not dead? Must be all that clean living.
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And he lived happily ever after. Except for the dieing at the end and the heartbreak in between.

[extro...]

[Samadhi]

Can't mess up subtitles? You should see my copy of Bad Boys II. It's so messed up it's like watching MST3K
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And he lived happily ever after. Except for the dieing at the end and the heartbreak in between.

[groza528]

I stare at the wall for probably two hours every day at work.

I am in agreement with the subtitlers here. The voice conveys emotions better than does body language. If an actor in an undubbed movie is doing a poor job of convincing us, that's bad acting. It would be a shame to lump a poorly dubbed movie under the same file as a poorly acted movie, and not give the foreign actors their due.
I suspect, but I can't say for certain because I know little about the movie business, that voice actors for dubs aren't given a lot of thought. "The hard part is done; the acting should speak for itself but it would be nice to understand the plot." As such, they generally lack the qualifications necessary to give a quality movie the quality soundtrack it ought to have.

P.S. I bet you don't like letterbox either, huh?

[The Master]

[The Master]

Just got done watching Bleeder, Danish director Nicolas Refn's second film, and I thought it was quite good. A little hard to take in some scenes, but certainly worth a viewing.
**1/2
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[Travis*]

Just now watching Spanglish. Looking good, Tea Leoni is funny in her role (and incredibly hot) - A. Sandler plays the part of a restaurant owner, an overly sensitive dad, and husband. The movie seems to have some depth to it and a feel good comedy style and stars an upcoming Spanish born hottie, Paz Vega who wears too much eye liner.

So far, a good film...

[Dmi]

[Travis*]

~waits for newbie to get ass paddled~

[Dmi]

Well, I'd rather watch something good. If extro wants o watch something bad, it's his choice/

[Travis*]

Originally posted by Mandlebot Man (aka, the fractal friar)

[Internet Stranger]

[extro...]

[Dmi]

My point was, subtitles can't ruin a movie (unless they're in wingdings, but that won't happen).

If some person starts reading off the script in ways that were unintended (which should happen to some extent), it would ruin at least part of the movie for you.

The only way dubbing would actually not suck, IMO, is if all the actors learned a new language, and then recorded the movie in the other language.

And your type of "logic", well, you're just twisting them, sort of. What you did could be done to practically any argument.

[extro...]

Subtitles can ruin a movie if the dialog is so fast that reading it would require complete focus on reading, to the exclusion of all attention to the visual aspects of the film.

I twisted nothing, and what I did can't be done to a sound argument.

Dubbing can be done right. If the original actors didn't deliver their lines well, dubbing can even improve it.

[Mackay]

[Travis*]

Internet Stranger..

[Travis*]

Mackay

[Mackay]

In response to your questions, Travis:

Yes. No. He offered me a 25% discount. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Travis*]

Are you trying to tell me that a silicone mannequin charges you for sex?Okay.

[Mackay]

In order to obtain a silicone mannequin, one needs to buy it. By robbing Peter. I am glad we have reached an understanding.

[Mackay]

And who said anything about sex? I want him to sit on my couch scratching himself, drinking beer and hogging the remote. ~rowr