Round 2, Division 4, Match 45 (Ender's Game, 15-5)

[mith]

1 - Ender's Game (Book 1 of the Ender Wiggin Saga) - Orson Scott Card
9 - Magician (Book 1 of the Riftwar Saga) - Raymond Feist

[wordcross]

Crap... um.....

I'll come back later and see what the votes are like.
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[jesternl]

First one that really made me hesitate

[Samadhi]

raymond feist? what a pathetic match up. It's like Marlon Brando vs Keanu Reeves...

(and it's Magician: Apprentice)

[wordcross]

For the purposes of this tournament, i believe that it has been submitted as both Magician books in a single volume, simply called Magician (It does also come published this way, as well as separate)

So it's both
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[L'lanmal]

I voted for Magician. For some reason I can ignore/forgive the flaws of Magician more easily than the flaws of Ender's Game. Magician I was able to believe as goings-on of fictional people in a fictional place. In Ender's Game every time I began to get immersed in such a way, I'd hit something that would pop me right back out. Probably made all the more glaring because there is something powerful in there somewhere about Ender's Game.

Which, in the end, makes Magician a book I enjoyed more. Ender's Game is a book I feel glad I read at some point in my life, and I recommend to those who haven't, but didn't enjoy quite as much.

[Samadhi]

WX: Arbitrarily putting the first two books into a 900 page compilation doesn't make it "The first volume." Especially since Silverthorn is 343 pages.

It would be like taking Nine Princes in Amber, The Guns of Avalon, Sign of the Unicorn, The Hand of Oberon, and The Courts of Chaos; putting them between two covers and calling them the "first volume of the Amber Series"

Or shall we take the first three of The Wheel of Time series and call them "a volume?"

Anyway, do as you will.

[wordcross]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_E._Feist

[L'layne]

Samadhi:
mith addresses this point in post 53 of the nomination thread. Well, more he brings it up and nobody objects too much.

He rules that Lord of the Rings should be counted as a single book, as it was written as one, but divided into three parts for publication reasons.

Magician is even more clear cut. It was written as one book. It was published as one book (hardcover). It was then divided into two portions to more easily accommodate the paperback format.

[mith]

Yeah, the more appropriate WoT analogy would be treating Eye of the World as two books, From the Two Rivers and... the other one it got split into.

[Samadhi]

Fine, be that way.

[Scurra]

I don't think Magician was ever published in the UK in two separate volumes - I have both the UK original and revised editions (in p/b) and never thought it came in any other form. Certainly the first part isn't self-contained, compared to Silverthorn or Sethanon.

(Rather like one of my favourite SF novels: Ash, by Mary Gentle, which was written as one bloody huge novel but split into four paperbacks for the US edition. But somehow she managed to find three really good cliff-hangers for the "split" points that work perfectly without jarring in the single-volume edition.)
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