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Logain
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:16 pm    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

Well if you're trying to think of ways to alter the puzzle so that if it presented again might be more solvable....personally I think the poem should have held more of a clue. Maybe I would have used several lines mixed in that hinted toward another series of famous books (not blatantly, but enough to solve it), and then concluded/ended the poem or added an intro that it doesn't quite fit the diagram, but something along these lines might.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 19, 2005 8:26 pm    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

For anyone who's curious, "no-body" was me.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 12:07 pm    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

Never having read anything about Discworld there was almost no chance of me ever solving the puzzle unless I had been extremely lucky Googling (and I wasn't lucky).

I did used to try solving increasingly obscure puzzles which eventually reached the point where you needed to know the answer before you could understand the question. Pictures and diagrams were the hardest to solve as they are so difficult to research.

As Logain suggested, had there been a non-diagrammatic clue, possibly from a verse, then non-discworlders might have had a chance.

The puzzle was fairly interesting, but without a pointer to the right area, we were left guessing with no idea whether we were right unless we stumbled on the answer...
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Dred Pirate Westley
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

I agree. The mark of a good puzzle is one that gives just enough clues to bump the puzzler in the right direction without blatantly giving away anything. The person trying to solve the puzzle shouldn't have to "know the answer before understanding the question", espeically in a forum. In a math class, maybe. Finally, the solver of the puzzle should know when he's solved it, and have at least a fair degree of confidence in his answer.

This puzzle provided NONE of these, and so was not really a puzzle, but an elaborate exclusive guessing game.

MAJOR waste of time.
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DropOfaHat
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2005 2:53 pm    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

Dred Pirate Westley wrote:
...the solver of the puzzle should know when he's solved it, and have at least a fair degree of confidence in his answer.


Exactly. Thank you DPW. ("Get used to disappointment.")

Not to beat a dead horse, but even though I now know the answer, and have been looking up more info on this series if books, I STILL can't definitively nail which one goes where in the diagram (and what's with all the criss-crossing across the middle?).

I'm sure there are some neat puzzles in "Protected's" future, but this ain't it...
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 3:26 pm    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

http://www.setcom.bg/news/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21956
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2005 8:58 pm    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

Guest-2 wrote:
http://www.setcom.bg/news/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=21956


The answer in this forum is:
The Creator is T. Pratchett. His work - The Diskworld books and the main characters.
image - here: http: //ivanpetrov.com/bibi/problem_274-3.gif

The numbers next to every link are the numbers from this sequence:
http: //ivanpetrov.com/bibi/problem_274-2.jpg

May be the smallest circle in the middle is the Diskworld.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

I'm ready for a new puzzle.
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Tahnan
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 09, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

I know I should just let it lie, but--just when I thought it couldn't get worse:

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The dot in the bottom-right corner of each [witch] symbol is for Agnes Nitt, an apprentice they get later in the series.


In other words, a dot representing Agnes appears in the symbols for books she's not in? I knew the puzzle was awful; I didn't realize it was both awful and wrong.
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