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MatthewV
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:39 am    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:40 am    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

Just to check: Is the C word unique? Initial progress gives me a set of letters for C that can form multiple words.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

I have the same problem, but I think we're probably right.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Anagrams in that situation are accepted as correct. If the only combination that worked was CATS obviously CAST would also work.
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Fuldu
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:39 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

I think this is the list:
ACORN; BRAWN; CRATE; DRIVE; EARTH; FIRST; GLYPH; HEART; IRONS; JOKED; KLUTZ; LUMPY; MACHE; NACHO; OLIVE; PIQUE; QUIDS; REACT; SQUID; TRACE; UMBRA; VIXEN; WHITE; XYLEM; YACHT; ZILCH

I haven't checked every pairing against the numbers, but I'm pretty sure that works out.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:06 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

Fuldu:Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but the A word needs to have exactly one letter that is the same as the words for D, F, J, O, V, and Z, etc usw... am I correct?
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Fuldu
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

raekuul wrote:
Fuldu:Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but the A word needs to have exactly one letter that is the same as the words for D, F, J, O, V, and Z, etc usw... am I correct?


That's correct, but unless I'm missing something my solution meets at least those specific criteria you've listed.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:42 am    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

Maybe rakeuul misintrpreted the rules? The letter the A and D words have in common doesn't have to be the same as the letter the A and F words have in common (which I think is the source of rakeuul's confusion).
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:42 am    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

Reckon so far I have 8 words which seem to fit together well...just having trouble finding time to discover more...and I'm getting myself increasingly confused.

Doesn't help that I just looked at the list by Fuldu Dispirited
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:27 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

Of course, I think it is reasonable to believe Fuldu made a simple program to solve this puzzle. I would be much more interested in some of the logical steps (helped every now and then by an computerized anagram)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 3:02 am    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

MatthewV wrote:
Of course, I think it is reasonable to believe Fuldu made a simple program to solve this puzzle. I would be much more interested in some of the logical steps (helped every now and then by an computerized anagram)


I have next to no programming knowledge. I did this all by hand with, as you mention, the occasional computerized anagram or, more often, a computerized five-letter anagram from a pool of about nine possible letters.

Unfortunately, I realized about halfway through the process that I no longer could tell which steps I had taken at what point, so I was unable to reconstruct the process when I was typing it up or I would have included it.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 4:29 am    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

I haven't completely solved it since I haven't had the time, but this is my process so far:


1) The C, R, and T words are all anagrams of each other. So are the E and H words. Both sets of letters overlap by 4 letters. The only possibility is:
CRATE, REACT, TRACE, EARTH, HEART

2) The S and Q words are also anagrams of each other. They don't share any letters with any of the words above. A little thought reveals that the S word must start with SQU, and thus the words must be SQUID and QUIDS.

3) The G word shares no letters with the C word, but it shares one letter with the E word. Thus it must contain H. It also shares no letters with SQUID, so the only possible vowels are O and Y. Inspection shows that there aren't any words using G,H,O that will fit the numbers, so it can only contain Y. Then the word is GLYPH.

4) The Y word shares 2 letters with GLYPH and 3 letters with CRATE. Trial and error reveals the only possibility to be YACHT.

5) The P word shares 3 letters with SQUID. It shares none with YACHT, but 1 letter with CRATE and EARTH, so the word must contain either E or R. Trial and error gives the only possibility PIQUE.

6) The M word shares 3 with Y, and 3 with C and E. Either the word contains both C and H, or it contains neither. Some work gives two possibilities: meaty/mache. A similar process with N gives two words: nacho/notch. Since M and N share 3 letters, they must be MACHE and NACHO.

7) The A word shares 3 with C but only 2 with E, so it must contain the letter C. A also shares 4 letters with N but only 2 letters with M, so we at least have NACO. Since we need one more letter from CRATE, the word must be ACORN.

8) The L word shares 1 with M, but none with N or E, so it must contain the letter M. It also shares 3 letters with GLYPH. The word must be LUMPY.


Anyway, that's as far as I am at the moment.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 5:28 am    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

I must admit that I thought people would solve this in a slightly different manner. I guess the steps were easiest to do on paper instead of on the computer for some people.

Very impressive!
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