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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 2:55 pm    Post subject: 161 Reply with quote

unvote for now. Gotta read.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:06 pm    Post subject: 162 Reply with quote

I'm immune to night kills. Happy? Now we've wasted the chance of the mafia/SK targeting me and losing a kill.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: 163 Reply with quote

I don't buy that. Many Mafia GF have a chance to choose between being immune to night kills or being proven innocent by cops investigation. There are a lot of ways mafia have been given that.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: 164 Reply with quote

wow what unluckiness that has happened to this game.

Dutters has resigned from this game, due to personal reasons. i am taking this as if he were modkilled, due to all of the circumstances surrounding this game. i am also considering this day a No-Lynch because of this new devlopment and the game will go into night.


Dutters was "legitmately injured" and will be out for four to six months due to a torn Bicep. Therefore, he will no longer be participating in the Royal Rumble, or be in Wrestlemania. He was Randy Orton, Mafia RoleBlocker.


Get those choices in folks!


N00b mod gets all his troubles at once. Cannibal
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 3:26 pm    Post subject: 165 Reply with quote

The next morning will be at Midnight tonight EST. i am still waiting on a couple of choices. thank you!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: 166 Reply with quote

Welcome back everyone.

You all have woken up to find a person dead. Quailman, Sabu, is found right next to Josh-oo-wuh, who is sleeping soundly. He has had his legs broken off, presumably from a figure four leg lock. It looked like Sabu was trying to kill Josh, but to no avail.

Also, let it be known that wldhrtcgd99 is Jeff Hardy, and is nothing more than a confirmed Vanilla Townie

Quailman, Sabu, SK was killed by a Figure-Four leg lock.

With five people left it will take three to lynch! Get to it guys!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: 167 Reply with quote

Ouch! At least we got the SK off of our backs. I wish Sabu were a vig, though. And not dead. Oh well, one scum down!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:17 pm    Post subject: 168 Reply with quote

I take it Ric Flair is mafia.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: 169 Reply with quote

Took me a while to look up that one. Either wikipedia is slow, or my web browsing skills suck. And it seems odd that haxxor would just point out that Sabu failed in his kill. If we go by standard rules, Sabu's death shouldn't inhibit his NK power, at least for that night. I'm thinking RB, doc, or maybe Josh has some power. Oh, and by the looks of it, there seems to be only one scum group left. Either one or two members. One, not much of a problem. Two, lylo...

Food for thought. I pointed this out Day 2 as well, but we got lucky with Dutters.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: 170 Reply with quote

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
I take it Ric Flair is mafia.


Could be. Is Ric Flair even wrestling anymore? If he is, he should retire. He's too old to be messing around with this sort of nonsense.

I have to believe that there are other wrestlers out there that are known for using the figure four. I guess it's unnecessary to figure out who is because we don't know who is who anyway.

At the end of yesterday I was voting for Blake Judge, and I still think it's a fairly good bet that he is scum. So, I'm going to Vote: Blake Judge to start things off.

After that I would like to slap a Boston crab on Livingod and ponder the situation a little further.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: 171 Reply with quote

Since I've already claimed earlier in the game, I see no harm in telling you that I have no real abilities. So, I'm betting I was protected or Quailman was roleblocked. My bet is that someone has a bodyguard role and thus killed Sabu when he tried to kill me. If that's true, I think we truly are dealing with only one mafia group now. It's not definite, but I feel it's a decent guess. I'm not comfortable voting Judge, but I don't see who I should vote for yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:47 pm    Post subject: 172 Reply with quote

Hmm, a bodyguard does make sense. As it is too much of a coincidence that scum targeted the SK someone prevented the SK kill. I think either both the mafia and the SK kills were prevented via a doc/RB and bodyguard, respectively, or the SK was prevented via bodyguard and mafia just abstained from killing for some reason. Then again, it may not be a bodyguard. But if it were, then Ric Flair would be the bodyguard, no?

As for voting, I'm on my toes at this point, as a wrong vote could cause a scum wagon and cost us the game.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:01 pm    Post subject: 173 Reply with quote

This is very true. We've seen off one mafioso and one SK so far, so it seems likely that one or two scum remain. If it's the latter, we lose with a botched lynch.

Looking at scenarios for what could have happened last night, I can see the following:

1) Flair is a protector
2) Flair is scum and targeted Sabu
3) Flair is Josh's underling

Now, I find the third option hard to believe. Everything that Josh has said so far rings true, and the involvement of the Kane character (not scum) probably precludes any mafia group including Undertaker. The first two options are far more likely, IMO.

Another thing to throw into the mix is the fact that option 1 would make more sense if the scum tried to kill me, disbelieving my claim, and failed. The Flair bodyguard then killed Sabu as he attempted to take out Josh.

Two of these options have Flair as scum, and I also know that HHH is in the mafia. Dutters died and was Randy Orton, a mafioso. This leads me to believe that the mafia group is evolution, and that Flair probably is scum (although there could be a Batista character still.)

wldhrtcgd99 is cleared, so that leaves Josh, Livingod and theopholis. As stated, I trust Josh, so I'm left to decide between the last two. Livingod has seemed fairly reasonable but pressed me to reveal my ability, which I find suspicious. theopholis seemed eager to just 'get something going' yesterday, which strikes me as scummy. On balance I'm going to go with the guy who wants to lynch the character that can't die by other means:

Vote: theopholis
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:34 pm    Post subject: 174 Reply with quote

Now, I believe that one of these two are scum. Why? because if it was town voting town, the scum would wagon. As for who is scum, right now, I'm leaning toward Theo. Simply because he voted first and risked a scum victory. Judge's vote is warranted and safe, since theo's vote was basically a "kill us, scum!" banner and a second one won't make a difference. Again, I'm hesitant to vote, but Big FoS: Theo
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:26 pm    Post subject: 175 Reply with quote

I'm holding back my vote for now, but I want to do two things:

1) I second the FoS: theopholis.

2) I think there's something worth looking into with these Flair theories. I'm very close to asking Flair to step forward and reveal himself. I won't yet though, for if he's a bodyguard, he's too valuable to reveal.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: 176 Reply with quote

Where's wild?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:21 am    Post subject: 177 Reply with quote

im prodding wld. if she doesn't respond in 48-72 hours, she will have to be replaced.

wow i have replaced that role once already.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:22 am    Post subject: 178 Reply with quote

Well, seeing as how Josh is the only other active non voting person. Josh:

Do you want to vote? Frankly I'm quite ready.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:38 am    Post subject: 179 Reply with quote

What the hell, sure.

Let's put theo at lynch -1, see what happens.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: 180 Reply with quote

Well well well. I wasn't surprised when BlakeJudge voted for me, but I am a bit surprised that two others among us have agreed with him.

Blake Judge wrote:
theopholis seemed eager to just 'get something going' yesterday, which strikes me as scummy. On balance I'm going to go with the guy who wants to lynch the character that can't die by other means:

Vote: theopholis

It's not that I just wanted to "get something going." It was that you were on my suspicion list and since other people seemed to find you suspicious enough to vote for you as well, I felt no reservations about voting for you as well. The fact that the game was dragging was a factor, but it was not the primary factor.

Livingod wrote:
Now, I believe that one of these two are scum. Why? because if it was town voting town, the scum would wagon. As for who is scum, right now, I'm leaning toward Theo. Simply because he voted first and risked a scum victory. Judge's vote is warranted and safe, since theo's vote was basically a "kill us, scum!" banner and a second one won't make a difference. Again, I'm hesitant to vote, but Big FoS: Theo

Let's think about this. We presume there are two scum left since it looks like the mafia group is Evolution. We know there are not three mafia scum remaining, because if there were the game would be over. Since I voted for Blake Judge and he is still alive after many real-time days, the assumption is that one of us is scum and one isn't. If I were scum, why would I jump right out there and vote for an innocent? I wouldn't. I would wait for someone not in my mafia group to cast a vote on a townie and then I and my fellow scum would lower the boom and seal the deal on the game. That would make much more sense, and that is the strategy I would propose to my partner in crime. (I'm actually glad that didn't happen. I was going on the assumption that there were only two mafia and that a single vote wouldn't lead to catastrophe.) I can only presume that anyone else in a two-person-remaining mafia would decide the same thing. Since I voted for Blake Judge and there were not two quick additional votes to seal the deal, I can only presume that I was correct in presuming that he is scum.

Now Blake is voting for me and Livingod has tricked Josh into voting for me as well. I wouldn't be at all surprised if Livingod and Blake Judge are the last two mafiosos and Livingod arrives in the near future to lower the boom.

Josh, assuming you are town, which I believe to be likely, I urge you to reconsider your vote.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: 181 Reply with quote

Hammah Time! -----[]

Nananananana Can't touch this!

Vote: theopholis

Lynch scene! Yaay!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 2:34 pm    Post subject: 182 Reply with quote

Btw, word in MS is that Wildheart99 had babies.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: 183 Reply with quote

thats kewl this thread is closed hold on.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: 184 Reply with quote

Livingod , Josh-oo-wuh, and Blake Judge decide that It's time to get Theopholis. However, when they look for him, he is found in the middle of the ring. talking to the millions.......and millions of the Rock's fans. The three run to the ring, and try to take down Theo, but to no avail. Rock Bottom on all three! As Livingod, Josh, and Blake lie motionless in the ring, Theo gets up on the middle rope and says what every wrestling fan in the world wants to say: "If ya Smeeellllllll What the Rock Is Cookin'!!!"

Theopholis , The Rock, has been Lynch protected. Therefore, No-lynch was made.

It is now Night Four get your choices in ASAP

I will be looking for a replacement for Wild. I hope her baby is doing well.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: 185 Reply with quote

Quailman, due to the fact he was a SK, he has no other knowledge of the inner workings of the game and will be able to replace wild.

Quail2 replaces Wild
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: 186 Reply with quote

Weclcome back everyone, well some of you, There are just four of you left.

Quailman, just having been replaced is dead again! he took a pedigree on to a steel chair.

With four left its three to lynch. Good luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 5:51 pm    Post subject: 187 Reply with quote

bah!
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 10:18 pm    Post subject: 188 Reply with quote

Hmm, So we have the following important* roles at our disposal currently:

Sabu, SK, killed once - DEAD
Triple H, most likely scum, killed twice (the last time a confirmed townie) - AT LARGE
Ric Flair, scum? bodyguard?, killed the SK (perhaps prevented the SK kill) - AT LARGE
The Rock, Theo, alignment unknown, lynch protected once - Quite blatantly AT LARGE

*important meaning the killing roles and the roles we know to be alive.

I bet I was wrong about the lylo earlier. Because if we had two mafia, we would have lost. But we're definetely at lylo now. This is most likely going to be the last day, soo mass roleclaim!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: 189 Reply with quote

OK. I am The Rock.

Now it's your turn. Extreme Delectation

An important point for me to make now is that it is quite possible I was wrong about the Blake Judge/Livingod mafia team. If that were true, it would be game over with only four players remaining. Stalemate/no lynch today and mafia kill tomorrow night. That is unless Josh has some sort of ability that could make a mafia lynch with only two townies possible today.

On the other hand, the setup as suggested by some other players who know more about the WWE than myself makes two remaining mafia roles seem like that's what we have.

This is all a bit confusing now. I was so happy with my argument, too. Well, chances are I'm at least 50% right on who the scum is, and I am leaning heavily in the direction of Livingod because of his manipulation of Josh into voting for me yesterday and for the level of glee he displayed when he cast the lynching vote on me after I had just called him out. It was exactly the sort of slip-up I was hoping the scum would make when casting the lynching vote. HUGE FOS and a People's Elbow on Livingod
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 7:37 am    Post subject: 190 Reply with quote

Since The Undertaker is dead, I, Kane, am now just a vanilla townie with no abilities. Sorry.

I second that motion on putting the screws to Livingod. Quite the happy hammerer is he.

In fact, start the pressure on!

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: 191 Reply with quote

Theo: Let's hear your roleclaim as well.


My partial claim:

I am THE Ric Flair.
I have (had) a bodyguard ability. I would choose who to protect every night until I actually picked a victim, whereupon I would kill the aggressor. I lost my ability after 1 protection, i.e. Josh. And after I read the night events post at daybreak, I noticed how it said that Josh was "sleeping soundly." I assumed him to be vanilla. That's why I directed all of my arguments at him, because I felt that he was the only person I can trust. (Although my assumption became moot when I realized that the scum didn't kill that night.)

My night choices were Night 1 Quailman and Night 2 Josh.

We know three characters to be alive:
The Rock - Theo (Mod confirmed)
Ric Flair - Me (will not be counterclaimed)
Triple H - Scum

We have two nameclaims that will not be verified because although they were not counterclaimed, we don't know that they even exist.

These are:
Kane - Josh (seeker, if I remember right)
Stone Cold - Blake (informed townie and immune to NKs, if I remember right)

At least one of them is lying.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:53 pm    Post subject: 192 Reply with quote

While the claim is logical, it seems too convenient, especially since I was the one to throw the bodyguard idea out there. I could be wrong, but I think there's already a strong case against Livingod.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 12:17 am    Post subject: 193 Reply with quote

The case is the "speedlynch" essentially. When I asked you if you wanted to vote, I said:

I wrote:
Do you want to vote? Frankly I'm quite ready.


I wanted to lynch theo at that point. I was just waiting for you. Frankly, you see no problem with placing me at lynch-1 in a lylo situation. In fact, now that I think about it, you seem to agree with almost everyone, especially these last two days. Now instead of chasing a case based on "speedlynching" where I had explained my intention of lynching Theo from the start, let's find the real Triple H scum. I'm getting heavy readings off of my scumdar for:

Vote: Josh
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: 194 Reply with quote

Livingod wrote:
Theo: Let's hear your roleclaim as well.

OK. I am a lynch protected townie who can call on the will of the people to protect me from an untimely demise.

Livingod wrote:
Frankly, you see no problem with placing me at lynch-1 in a lylo situation.

You are not at lynch -1. There are four alive, so it takes three to lynch.

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
While the claim is logical, it seems too convenient, especially since I was the one to throw the bodyguard idea out there. I could be wrong, but I think there's already a strong case against Livingod.

I agree with that statement entirely. It could be coincidental that Josh deduced the correct role despite the fact that the role appears to be unique in mafia--at least I haven't seen it before--but Livingod's claim does sound awfully convenient based on speculation that was already in play.

I'd like to hear from the runner up on my list of suspects, Blake Judge. Feel free to chime in whenever you can, BJ.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: 195 Reply with quote

The lynch-1 thing, yea, sorry. I mistook a HUGE FoS and People's Elbow as a vote. (They're both bold, you know)

Claimed Roles:
Theo - Lynch immune (has supporting evidence)
BJ - NK immune (no evidence, makes sense with Theo's role though)
Me - one shot bodyguard (has supporting evidence)
Josh - seeker, now vanilla (no evidence)

The more I think about it, the more a Josh vote makes sense.

Theo: http://mikeburnfire.sitesled.com/mscumB.swf Protective -> Bodyguard

Heehee, BJ sounds funny...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: 196 Reply with quote

vote count:

Josh-oo-wuh 1: (livingod)

Livingod 1: (josh-oo-wuh)

not voting 2: (blake judge, theopholis)
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: 197 Reply with quote

Well, we have one mafioso left or the game would be already over, so we need to look at scenarios for that. Most of the roleclaim information has already been posted, as well as the roles that we know to be out there. I don't see anything missing or incorrect there, and it's all very relevant.

As critical of me as theo has been, I find it hard to believe that he's scum at this point. The character, the role and general behaviour support that in my mind and he's bottom of my suspects list. Then there's Josh, who has struck me as trustworthy for most of the game. I'm not familiar with the Seeker role, but it definitely seems to make sense. I can't really think of a comprable scum role that he'd feel safe in modifying.

That leaves Livingod. As things stand, he's definitely at the top of my list because of the roleclaim. Nothing seems wrong about it, other than the convenience of it all. I'll throw a FoS: Livingod out there.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 6:35 am    Post subject: 198 Reply with quote

I'd like to add that it seems that Livingod's vote for me seems to be out of a desire to eliminate his strongest critic.

Also, Judge made an excellent point in that we are certainly left with just one more scum player. Given who the mafia has consisted of so far, Flair would fit PERFECTLY with that group, while The Rock, Austin, and Kane would not.

Also, Livingod claims there is no evidence to support my roleclaim. I think that's an overstatement at best. There is hard evidence that someone else had The Undertaker role, and while that does not 100% prove my claim, I believe it gives it a great deal of substance.

This is in stark contrast to Livingod's claim of being Flair The Bodyguard. This is half supported, half not. The half that is supported is that he IS Flair. I truly believe we would have seen a counterclaim if he wasn't. However, he says there is evidence to support that he is a bodyguard. Now, there is such a role in the world of mafia, and we all now know that, THANKS TO ME. However, if I had never brought that up, I don't believe Livingod would have ever thought to make his present claim. Plus, while there is evidence that he killed Sabu, that is ALL there is evidence of - that he has a night kill ability of some sort. I believe it's simply far more likely statistically that he is scum, as opposed to town.

By the way, when he made his claim, he said it was a PARTIAL claim. What part did he leave out? Maybe a minor quibble, but something odd I noticed.

Given all of this, I have no reservations at all about lynching him now.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: 199 Reply with quote

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
I'd like to add that it seems that Livingod's vote for me seems to be out of a desire to eliminate his strongest critic.


Theo is my strongest critic, you simply agree with him.

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
Also, Judge made an excellent point in that we are certainly left with just one more scum player. Given who the mafia has consisted of so far, Flair would fit PERFECTLY with that group, while The Rock, Austin, and Kane would not.


Flair would indeed fit with the group, except that Triple H would fit a lot better. Triple H did not die yet. He is among us. He is the last scum.

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
Also, Livingod claims there is no evidence to support my roleclaim. I think that's an overstatement at best. There is hard evidence that someone else had The Undertaker role, and while that does not 100% prove my claim, I believe it gives it a great deal of substance.


That's even less substance than my claim. You see the Undertaker dead, you claim Kane. No one can be sure of your role. I kill the SK with my personal finishing move, I claim Ric. My role is known to exist.

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
However, if I had never brought that up (the bodyguard role), I don't believe Livingod would have ever thought to make his present claim.


And if the Undertaker hadn't died, you wouldn't have made your claim.

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
I believe it's simply far more likely statistically that he is scum, as opposed to town.


Statistically: One scum. Triple H is scum. (If he were not, why didn't he claim?) I am not scum.

Josh-oo-wuh wrote:
By the way, when he made his claim, he said it was a PARTIAL claim. What part did he leave out? Maybe a minor quibble, but something odd I noticed.


It's called a modkillable offense. I cannot fully claim. But what I have said should be enough to clear me.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 16, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: 200 Reply with quote

MNOWAX has informed me that the game is over.
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