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TopHat
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 5:28 pm Post subject: 521 |
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| I said he could be saying the truth about his ability, but not his alignment. |
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pete d
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Posted: Mon Feb 19, 2007 10:16 pm Post subject: 522 |
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you hear a rumour that raekuul2 is innocent
vote count
IH (2): Adele, TopHat
Tseirp (1): IH
not voting (3): Josh, Tseirp, raekuul2
4 to lunch |
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Adele
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 2:09 am Post subject: 523 |
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| Adele wrote: |
| People based plans on the assumption that you could block tonight, which you did not correct. |
| IH wrote: |
| Correction. You based plans on that. |
No, Tophat did too (first, IIRC). This from Valentine's day:
| Tophat wrote: |
Well, we have a dead vig and a dead roleblocker.
I suggest that, if DukeBank turns out to be the 3rd (and hopefully the last)mafia, you can backup a RB and block someone we're suspicious of, eg. wldhrt. If there's an exploding kill overnight, this clears wldhrt from being the SK.
And if DukeBanks turns out to be innocent, you need of course to backup a vig and kill Josh.
Do you guys have any better ideas or corrections to this? |
| IH wrote: |
| Adele, have you found anyone guilty? |
Yes, my first investigation was on mgm, who I found guilty (and gossiped to that effect). I am not naive, paranoid or reverse. I'm sane, the GF's dead already.
Tophat: mason with Livingod, so probably innocent.
Josh: mason with lazarusmoth, so probably innocent.
Raekuul: investigated, found innocent.
Tseirp: investigated, found innocent.
Adele: cop, gossip (Rae found the rumours to be set by a cop, and no-one has counterclaimed me either as the cop or rumoursetter) - I think I'm pretty well cleared too.
In fact, Rae and I mutually confirm each other, not even as masons, but through reputable nightchoices (no offence, Tophat and Josh, I'm just skittish around masons). I can then turn round and confirm Tseirp, who can protect me if we happen to have yet another night after lynching - as I presume we will - IH.
If by some absurd fluke IH is innocent, then it's between Tophat and Josh; one more investigation (if Tseirp would be so kind as to watch my back) should then settle the game.
Anything I'm missing there? |
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Tseirp
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 4:19 pm Post subject: 524 |
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If Adele is telling the truth about the people he investigated, as well as the results he got, which i believe are the truth, as it seems just a bit too convenient that he would be able to guess all of those correctly. For now, as I have stood the past few days, I think Adele is innocent.
As for what Adele just said, a few words after Tophat and Josh make me really have to start thinking: probably innocent.
I'm not sure if the IH wagon is the right path, and that is why I haven't voted yet, I havent seen enough info to decide if thats the path i will take. |
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Adele
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 3:40 am Post subject: 525 |
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| Tseirp wrote: |
| I'm not sure if the IH wagon is the right path, and that is why I haven't voted yet, I havent seen enough info to decide if thats the path i will take. |
What more do you need? Because I'm bored, and it seems really obvious to me. |
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Josh-oo-wuh
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:42 pm Post subject: 526 |
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Adele - No offense taken. I would be skittish around this many masons myself.
Tseirp - I agree with Adele. IH has responded to the concerns, and I'm not swayed.
Vote: IH |
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TopHat
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2007 9:53 pm Post subject: 527 |
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| We seem to be one vote away from ending this game. Then you can all go and [shameless plug]sign up into GOOOOOOAAAAL! mafia. |
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Tseirp
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 12:09 am Post subject: 528 |
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Fine, Let the **** hit the fan.
Vote:IH |
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Adele
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:29 am Post subject: 529 |
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You made the right choice, guys :
| IH, MafiaScum, Mafia Discussion, "Mafia Claim" thread wrote: |
My favorite scum claim?
Backup. = D |
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TopHat
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:17 am Post subject: 530 |
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| Okay... GOAL mafia?! Hello!? What are we waiting for!? |
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pete d
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: 531 |
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The remaining town band together, pushing IH towards the town well. "You can't do this!" IH says, "I'm a backup!"
But, too late, for IH is hurled into the town's infamous well of lunch.
IH, mafia, lunched
GAME OVER: town wins!
"Hey," someone says, "What are we supposed to drink now?" |
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Tseirp
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: 532 |
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Wow, I was thinking that I possibly was naiive and stupidly belived Adele for a bit these past two days, but who in their right mind would purposly admit to ratting out their scum buddy D1?
This was a very interesting game, and it was one of the few I actually have enjoyed in the past while, even though it was a slow first 2 days. |
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Livingod
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:39 pm Post subject: 533 |
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I loove lunchtime! _________________ ScumTube!
Endless Mafia. Replacements constantly needed. |
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TopHat
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 3:44 pm Post subject: 534 |
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| I enjoyed the game, but I must admit that by the time I got in the identity of the remaining scums was pretty obvious. The town did all the hard work on day 2 by lynching (lunching?) the GF. Thanks to all who played and modded. |
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IH
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:35 am Post subject: 535 |
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Guys I had no way out of that one = ( Doc/Cop combination at the end was to strong....
Adele, I seriously wasn't talking about that game on Mafiascum XD I was talking about IRC. _________________ "Yet to be quoted from Pj"
-Pj |
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Adele
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:19 pm Post subject: 536 |
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GG.
Doc/cop combos hurt things... it certainly was a "ticking off boxes" thing at the end. I think the masons pinched the scum at the start, also. Overpowered town, which could've been fixed with a mafia rb, or a one-shot powerkill (which overrides doc protection). Rae could effectively confirm me by the end because of his role too...
Who else could gossip besides me? I had one gossip per day, and said day 1 that anyone who could gossip should, daily, so I could prove that I was the gossiper I claimed to be later on (I kinda wish I'd had to argue my copliness more... when Rae said that that gossip had been planted by a cop after I claimed I was the cop who planted the gossip and no-one counterclaimed either... )
So the town had
1 cop/gossip
1 gossip cop
1 doc
1 RB
2 Masons
2 more Masons
1 1-shot vig
The Sk had a gossip
The mafia had:
1 GF
1 doublevoter
1 goon
A vanillaless game without safe claims, or nearly enough extra mafia powers to balance it. I think this game would've been better balanced if raekuul1 (pro-town rb) had been part of a second mafia group with the SK, to give a 8-3-2 (town-mafia-mafia) setup, given the masons and all. |
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IH
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: 537 |
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Yeah, scum could gossip, Sk could gossip.
= ( _________________ "Yet to be quoted from Pj"
-Pj |
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pete d
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Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:56 pm Post subject: 538 |
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| I was hoping that there would be 3 gossips per day, but that didn't happen. |
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Adele
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: 539 |
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| Why didn't the scum use that ability more cunningly? I think I used the gossip very well to the advantage of my role, and while I didn't actually think about how scum should use it, I'm sure it would've benefited you to put something - a mix of truth and lies - out there from the start. |
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Tseirp
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:13 am Post subject: 540 |
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Something I will admit, that I didnt like of what I did, were the people I attempted to save nights 1 and 2.
Night 1: I protected AT, because he seemed to know what was going on with the game near the end of day 1, and I felt that he was a cop. Though I did almost go with Mgm, which I didn't though because I realized while choosing my actions that he pushed the Rae lynch very scumishly, and I wasnt sure, so I let what happen to him happen.
Night 2: I protected myself, not sure why though. (Note: I was able to save myself every other night) I sort of felt that I was a target due to the fact that I was the first to point out the possibility of Ceph being a scum, and I was pretty much dead-on. Another reason is that I didnt really trust anyone else so far (though i think my second choice might have actually been Livingod, which sucks because I may have been able to hold off another kill).
Night 3: I admitted to protecting Adele, as I felt if he was telling the truth about being a cop we needed the Cop/Doc lock to prove a point, but many times until the end of the game I still felt that Adele may have really been scum.
A couple things I would do differently:
Not blindly jump to 5-6 different FoSes night 1
Gone with my gut (would have saved Livingod, and possibly made me belive Adele more, but gut insticnt doesnt always work in Mafia). |
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IH
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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 4:40 pm Post subject: 541 |
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I really only got one day to use it. I didn't expect there to be a gossiping cop, and I can't say for my dead buddies choices....
On day 2, I was trying to make it look like Adele was lying about her gossiping cop. If I woulda had a buddy left, I would have argued that point, that perhaps this gossip was the real cop counterclaiming.
but I didn't want to risk it, and town didn't pick up on it to much.... they kind of ignored the gossip... _________________ "Yet to be quoted from Pj"
-Pj |
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