The Sage - Not Adequate for Real Life Situations

[Lepton]

Please feel free to discuss The Sage here.

[This message has been edited by Lepton (edited 08-21-2003 10:31 AM).]

[Schwartz_Ut]

When was Tic Tac Toe invented?

[SaberKitty]

yay! lepty's titling skills rock my sox!

*snogsl lepty*

and now i think i'll read the puzzle...

[referee]

Maybe Alan Parson's Project?

[robichelli]

"Type of phone where the buttons are arranged in a 3x3 Square"

But there are twelve buttons on a phone!?

[Celt]

It appears from the text that we are trying to find things that change. "There’s a marked difference between the two" & "Things that change are far more deserving of your attention than things that stay the same".
Google revealed the following:
Children's game played on a 3x3 grid Tic-Tac-Toe
"The City of Five Flags" Pensacola, Florida
Album featuring "Eyes Without a Face" Rebel Yell
Walter's history-making running mate Geraldine Ferraro
What Steve Douglas has, according to the title ???
"Cheeky" jazz trumpeter for Cab Calloway's band Dizzy Gillespie
Jack Kilby's brainchild Integrated Circuit
Their pledge ends, "For my club, my community, my country, and my world" 4-H
Home of Tom's Rhinoplasty South Park (Episode 111)
Type of phone with numbered buttons arranged in a 3x3 square ???

[Celt]

What Steve Douglas has, according to the title
There are hundreds to choose from but the most likely answer I've found so far is Three Sons. I wouldn't bet on it though.
Also, there seems to be a 3-letter thing going on giving T, A, L, R, ?, I, I, H, 1, ? but I have no idea what to do with them and how they tie into "change".

[Schwartz_Ut]

Children's game played on a 3x3 grid Tic-Tac-Toe may have been played in ancient Greece or Roman times.
"The City of Five Flags" Pensacola, Florida Founded 1559.
Album featuring "Eyes Without a Face" Rebel Yell 1983.
Walter's history-making running mate Geraldine Ferraro1984.
What Steve Douglas has, according to the title Three sons Aired 1960.
"Cheeky" jazz trumpeter for Cab Calloway's band Dizzy Gillespie Joined the band in 1939.
Jack Kilby's brainchild Integrated Circuit in 1958.
Their pledge ends, "For my club, my community, my country, and my world" 4-H Founded 1902.
Home of Tom's Rhinoplasty South Park (Episode 111) Aired 1998.
Type of phone with numbered buttons arranged in a 3x3 square Touch tone telephone Introduced in 1963.

RAnDom THouGHts

Tic Tac Toe aka Naughts and Crosses

Pensacola claimed by five nations : thus five flags

Les yeux sans visage is French for "Eyes Without a Face"

My three sons were originally Mike, Robbie, and Chip
Then Mike got married and left; Family adopts Ernie;
Leving Robbie, Chip, and Ernie

Dizzy Gillespie wasn't the first trumpeter for Cab Calloway
He replaced ???
Born as Jorn Birks Gillespie

The integrated circuit replaced vacuum tubes

4-H began as the "Boys & Girls Club Work"

The school teacher had a nose job; substitute was Ms. Ellen

Touch Tone Telephones replaced Rotary Dial Telephones

MOre RAnDoM THouGHts

Do we sort the replacements by the year of the year of introduction?

[This message has been edited by Schwartz_Ut (edited 08-21-2003 08:11 PM).]

[groza528]

I noticed a connection with the 3x3 thing (children's game and telephone) and soon realized (and Lepton confirmed) that all the answers were 9 letters. A few from the googling didn't fit, but this is the list with a few changes I made so they all fit into 9 letters. I think putting them into 3x3 grids is the next step.

code:

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TICTACTOE


PENSACOLA


REBELYELL


GERALDINE


THREESONS


GILLESPIE


MICROCHIP


FOURAITCH


SOUTHPARK


TOUCHTONE

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[groza528]

Insight: Upon rearranging into a 3x3 grid, I looked at only the letters that changed from one to the next. Between tic-tac-toe and Pensacola it makes a C, haven't tried any more yet.

code:

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TIC PEN


TAC SAC


TOE OLA

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[groza528]

The answer is Churchill, it seems, but fouraitch doesn't fit quite right. it's probably fourh----

[Lepton]

Most impressive, Groza. Well done.

[groza528]

Of course it's "fourhclub" for the record. Fits much better with microchip that way.

[Schwartz_Ut]

And I thought I was on to something with all of the replacements I had found . . .

sigh.

Good job Groza

Insert Inv something here

[This message has been edited by Schwartz_Ut (edited 08-22-2003 11:14 AM).]

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

*fixes the lightbulb, then flees*

[Jtman5]

I followed groza's example putting the words in 3x3 grids and got this.

C-H-U-?-C-H-I-L-L-/

Assuming the fourth one is an R, i believe it is referring to Winston Churchill. That's my puny attempt at an answer anyway.

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Think outside the box.



[This message has been edited by Jtman5 (edited 08-23-2003 09:13 PM).]

[Pausanias]

if it is said that
<Things that change are far more deserving of your attention>

the list can be reduced to
THREE SONS 3
FOUR AITCH 4
TOUCHT ONE 1

which lets me speculate about PI, 4-3=1 etc

[XCaliber]

I'm new here, but was looking at this and thought I'd throw something out here...

Going with groza528's theory, we put them in 3x3 grids:

code:

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TIC PEN   REB GER   THR GIL   MIC FOU   SOU TOU


TAC SAC   ELY ALD   EES LES   ROC RHC   THP CHT


TOE OLA   ELL INE   ONS PIE   HIP LUB   ARK ONE

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Now remove letters that are similar between each group of two:

code:

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TIC PEN   R B G R   THR GIL   MIC FOU   S   T  


T   S     E Y A D   E   L      O   H    T P C T


TOE OLA   ELL INE   ONS PIE   HIP LUB   ARK ONE

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C U C I L

Unscramble for: Lucci ????

Note: the only problem is on the "L" - the t and p don't match to remove giving a better looking "L"



[This message has been edited by XCaliber (edited 09-04-2003 05:41 PM).]

[Lepton]

Why don't you try your approach to individual 3x3 grids? There's really no indication or reason that they should be grouped by two. (good work, though)

[that it]

code:

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TIC PEN   PEN REB   REB GER   ...


TAC SAC   SAC ELY   ELY ALD   ...


TOE OLA   OLA ELL   ELL INE   ...

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[sk8boarder0087]

congrats groza!!!!