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Tseirp
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: 201 |
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Its a big surprise that TopHat was NK'd due to his claim yesterday.
Ive done a reread over the past few days, and I just dont like one person.
Vote: Primo, I think your really the GF with a one-time NK immunity (as some GFs are in other games) |
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MNOWAX
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: 202 |
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I investigated Tophat, and weirdly enough, i got sefer as being scum. I don't know exactly what is going on here. don't even know why my investigations are coming up so weirdly.. _________________ The Man The Myth The Legend
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Sefer
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:24 pm Post subject: 203 |
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So you investigated me and got town once, and then scum this time? I think we can be certain that you're not a sane cop; the only way to investigate someone twice and get two different results is a random cop, right? So you're either random or scum.
Tseirp, Primo is someone I've been looking at too (both due to behavior and me thinking that NK immunity would be something scum would want to claim to avoid being targeted by the SK), but superstring has an innocent on him and MNOWAX can't be a sane cop. It'd probably be best to wait til we get a result from superstring before we vote someone. _________________ Heroes Mafia Mega signups in progress: http://www.greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12124 |
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Tseirp
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:35 pm Post subject: 204 |
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| So what if ss got an innocent on Primo? If hes the GF, it makes even more sense. |
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Sefer
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 8:40 pm Post subject: 205 |
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That's true; I hadn't really thought about GF investigation immunity. I just think we should be cautious in a situation where two scum votes (on top of your current vote) could lose us the game if we're wrong. The fact that we haven't had anyone swoop in to add those votes in doesn't help Primo look good at the moment. Of course, it hasn't been very long since that vote was cast. _________________ Heroes Mafia Mega signups in progress: http://www.greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12124 |
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MNOWAX
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Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:13 pm Post subject: 206 |
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you misunderstood me sefer
I investigated TOPHAT and got You, SEFER as scum. _________________ The Man The Myth The Legend
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Sefer
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:35 pm Post subject: 207 |
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Yes, and that's weird- particularly since wizard was a mafia ability manipulator, and you getting a result on someone you didn't target sounds like ability manipulation, so scum would have to have more than one person that can affect other's abilities for that to be true. Regardless, the only possibilities for you getting an innocent result on me once and a guilty another time are that 1) you are random or 2) whatever retargeted you also screwed with your result. It does seem odd that scum would have an "ability manipulator" AND someone that could retarget/possibly mess with results of someone. _________________ Heroes Mafia Mega signups in progress: http://www.greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12124 |
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Tseirp
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:55 pm Post subject: 208 |
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| How do we know its scum and not a stupid townie? |
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Sefer
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: 209 |
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Well, a town member would have told us that he had an ability like that, wouldn't he? Same way we knew the gossip had to be a scum ability. _________________ Heroes Mafia Mega signups in progress: http://www.greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12124 |
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superstring91
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject: 210 |
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hey guys i'm back.
i investigated MNOWAX to check his claim out.
i got guilty on him.
hes scum thats been playing us all along.
so, my vote is going to
vote:MNOWAX
i will be gone for the rest of the day today through sunday. _________________ We've got him now! There's no escape from the airport!
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Sefer
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: 211 |
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That means everyone but Primo has checked in since Tseirp voted. In that we know Tseirp can't be scum (since he's a mason), the only way we wouldn't have had the assumed two scum putting their votes down by now is that Tseirp is right about Primo. I'm inclined to think that superstring is sane and Primo is a godfather, and that we should lynch MNOWAX tomorrow. MNOWAX has a lot of holes in his story.
Vote: Primo _________________ Heroes Mafia Mega signups in progress: http://www.greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12124 |
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superstring91
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:29 pm Post subject: 212 |
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unvote
vote:primo _________________ We've got him now! There's no escape from the airport!
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superstring91
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Posted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:34 pm Post subject: 213 |
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see you in another life _________________ We've got him now! There's no escape from the airport!
sign up for "Mafia. Plain, Old Mafia." |
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Primo
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: 214 |
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Way to go you just gave the mafia the advantage, Nice job!!! _________________ Listen to Bob Marley |
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MNOWAX
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:28 pm Post subject: 215 |
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damn. _________________ The Man The Myth The Legend
MNOWAX |
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MNOWAX
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Posted: Sat May 05, 2007 1:42 pm Post subject: 216 |
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If my math is correct, the game is over. I just want to know what the hell happened to my results! _________________ The Man The Myth The Legend
MNOWAX |
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pete d
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:05 pm Post subject: 217 |
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The town gathers around Primo. He doesn't look nervous though... he knows he has a trick left up his sleeve... He even laughs in the face of lynch! But it's too late for the town to stop now...
Primo, Mr Thompson, jester, lynched Day 3!
The remaining town glances nervously at each other. Any one of them could be mafia... MNOWAX and superstring take bitter stares at each other, one of them a cop, one of them lying. Sefer and Tseirp lurk on the fringes of the town square, perhaps trying to escape scrutiny. But not for much longer...
Suddenly, superstring strides onto the platform in the centre of the town square. "Hear Ye!" he shouts, "Sefer and I own this town now! You got Engamed!"
"Not so fast," Sefer says.
"Whaaa???" says superstring.
Sefer continues, "I'm not in the mafia at all. I'm a traitor, an agent for the town. And since you never picked up on it, you're gone! You're outnumbered 3 to 1. And I use my kill to wipe you out... now!"
But just as Sefer was pointing his gun, Tseirp suddenly calls out, "I wouldn't do that... not if you value your life..."
Tseirp strolls over and joins superstring at the centre of the square. "Too bad I decided to join the mafia, isn't it?"
MNOWAX, Guy N Cognito, cop and Sefer, Valentine's Day Homer, townie spy, ENGAME'D!
superstring91, Homer's Evil Clone, mafia goon and Tseirp, Evil Homer, mafia traitor, win! Primo, Mr Thompson, jester, wins!
OF COURSE, that was a complete load of bull.
Here's what really happened.
The town gathered around Primo. "Why so quiet, scum?" they said. But he remained silent. Silent as the fish...
Primo, Mr Thompson, 1-shot night protected townie, lynched day 3!
Final Day 3 vote count
MNOWAX (1): ???
Primo (3): Tseirp, Sefer, superstring91
But, the question is, who is the scum, eh? MNOWAX and superstring91 eye each other off suspiciously, each unbelieving of the others claim. Sefer and Tseirp loiter on the fringes of the town square, perhaps hoping to avoid scrutiny. But no longer.
Sefer strode towards the centre of the town square. "The game's up!" he called out, "Me and superstring own this town! You'd best be leaving... now!"
Tseirp looks over to the fallen figure of Primo. "What have I done?" he wonders... but it's too late...
Tseirp, Potato Man, townie mason and MNOWAX, Guy N Cognito, cop, ENGAME'D!
Sefer, Evil Homer, mafia GF and superstring91, Homer's Evil Clone, mafia with an extra vote, win!
GAME SUMMARY
Amb, Mr Sparkle, pro-town RB, lynched Day 1
Josh-oo-wuh, Sugar Man, pro-town mason, Slam Dunked Night 1
The Great Crep'er, Homer the Sanitation Commissioner, vanilla townie, badly beaten Night 1
Livingod, Vigilante Homer, pro-town vig, hit by a car Night 1
wizard, The Beer Baron, mafia ability manipulator, Lightning to the face / Modkilled Day 2
raekuul (replaces Sniklac16), Mr X, Serial Killer / Gossip / Commuter, lynched Day 2
TopHat, Smart Homer, miller doc, buried in crayons Night 3
Primo, Mr Thompson, 1-shot Night Kill Protected townie, lynched Day 3
MNOWAX, Guy N Cognito, cop, Engamed
Tseirp, Potato Man, pro-town mason, Engamed
Sefer, Evil Homer, mafia GF and superstring91, Homer's Evil Clone, mafia with an extra vote, win
Mod notes and role PM's coming later...
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Tseirp
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: 218 |
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Damnit, Primo looked so suspicious too.
GG Scum, you got me.
That, and I liked the first ending better. |
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superstring91
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: 219 |
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when i read that first ending, i was like, "oh shit. thats fucked up."
overall, it was an interesting game.
with that early D1 kill, it was a bit easier.
we would have won much sooner had wizard not been an idiot..
our win was due a lot to sefer. he is a smart man.
GG everyone _________________ We've got him now! There's no escape from the airport!
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TopHat
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 12:39 am Post subject: 220 |
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God damn you, town, I left you with a vote on Superstring at the eve of my demise, and nobody followed up on it
My first loss on this site... |
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Amb
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:00 am Post subject: 221 |
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| The day 1 vote indicated that the mafia would win this game, the town werent smart enough to actually question things. |
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Tseirp
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:11 am Post subject: 222 |
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I feel stupid for going on Primo still. Oh well, it was a fun game.
But alot is left unanswered. What happened with MNOWAX's cop results, why there were 3 kills N1, should I maybe not gone for raekuul D2 and try to let him and scum kill each other out, stuff like that. |
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superstring91
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 2:15 am Post subject: 223 |
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| Amb wrote: |
| The day 1 vote indicated that the mafia would win this game, the town werent smart enough to actually question things. |
i agree with this.
and it shouldve been evident that i was a bit nervous when pete said i was scum. and i immediately tried to dispell it even though i should have known the town wouldnt pay attention to it.
people should learn to scrutinize more _________________ We've got him now! There's no escape from the airport!
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pete d
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 5:59 am Post subject: 224 |
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ROLE PM's
tgc
you are Homer the Sanitation Commissioner. you live by your motto: can't someone else do it? as a result you are a vanilla townie. whilst you do not have any special abilities, you do have your vote and your brain. good luck, you win when all threats to the town are dead. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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primo
you are Mr Thompson. Due to your current location in witness protection, you are a 1 shot Night Protected Townie. On the first night you are attacked, this will protect you against any and all kills directed at you. You win when all threats to the town are dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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tophat
you are Smart Homer. Due to your increased intelligence (ie no crayon in brain) you have doctor skills. However, you are also a miller, as people don't like your smartiness. Please PM me each night 1 person which you wish to protect. you cannot protect yourself. You win when all threats to the town are dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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amb
you are Mr Sparkle. you are a Role Blocker, each night you may PM me 1 person who you wish to block. they will freak out at the sight of you and forget what they are doing. You win when all threats to the town are dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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mnowax
You are Guy N Cognito. You look like a Homer, but you're much more intelligent. You are in fact an undercover Cop. please PM me 1 player which you wish to investigate each night; I will tell you whether they come up innocent or scum. You win when all threats to the town are dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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josh-oo-wuh
You are the Sugar Man. You are a mason with Tseirp. You may communicate with X at night via PM. You win when all threats to the town are dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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tseirp
You are the Potato Man. You are a mason with Josh-oo-wuh. You may communicate with Y at night via PM. You win when all threats to the town are dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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livingod
You are Vigilante Homer. You are, surprisingly, a vig. You may target one other player each night by PMing me that player. You kill with a sack of doorknobs. You win when all threats to the town are dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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sniklac
You are Mr X. You are a Serial Killer, you may target one player to kill each night by PMing me that player's name.
You can also spread gossip once per day by sending me a PM in day in the form <player> is <innocent/guilty>; I will then announce this in the game thread.
If you wish, you may commute to the island at night by PMing me your intention that night, meaning that you cannot target or be targetted by anyone on that night; however, you will be so drugged up that you cannot post for 96 hours (4 RL days) at the beginning of the next day. You also cannot commute 2 nights in a row. You win when everyone else is dead. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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sefer
You are Evil Homer. You are the mafia GF, you may choose either investigation or nightkill immunity (PM me before the game begins). however, this ability will not work when you personally kill. Your fellow mafiosos are wizard and superstring91. You may communicate with your fellow mafia at night. The mafia may target 1 player each night to kill, please PM me both the target and the mafioso who is carrying out the kill each night. No kill is an option. The mafia also have a safe claim of Homer Simpson (from Police Cops). You win when a mafia win is inevitable. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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wizard
You are the Beer Baron. You are a mafia ability manipulator. You may target 1 player each night to liquor up. There is a 50% chance that their ability (if any) will not work, and a 50% chance that they will target a random player in their drunkenness. however, this ability will not work when you personally kill. Your fellow mafiosos are Sefer (GF) and superstring91. You may communicate with your fellow mafia at night. The mafia may target 1 player each night to kill, please PM me both the target and the mafioso who is carrying out the kill each night. No kill is an option. The mafia also have a safe claim of Homer Simpson (from Police Cops). You win when a mafia win is inevitable. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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superstring91
You are Homer's Evil Clone. You are mafia with an extra vote. Please PM me during the day when you wish to use your extra vote; it will appear as a ??? vote. You have only one for the whole game and cannot be used as the final vote on a lynch. however, this ability will not work in the day following when you personally kill. Your fellow mafiosos are Sefer (GF) and wizard. You may communicate with your fellow mafia at night. The mafia may target 1 player each night to kill, please PM me both the target and the mafioso who is carrying out the kill each night. No kill is an option. The mafia also have a safe claim of Homer Simpson (from Police Cops). You win when a mafia win is inevitable. good luck. please confirm via PM or in the game thread.
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Comments
Re MNOWAX's cop adventures: There was no Night 0. the rules stated that game started with day 1. It was a coincidence that Sniklac chose to gossip about Amb, whom MNOWAX targetted. On Night 1, your choice went through normally, Sefer was the GF investigation immune. On Night 2, I gave the mafia a 1 shot use of wizard's ability as compensation for his modkilling. They chose to use it on you; as a result you randomly targetted Sefer. However, Sefer chose to carry out the kill that night so superstring could use his ability day 3, and so turned up guilty.
raekuul should have claimed gossip / paranoid cop. His post restriction would have been a bit severe if he chose to commute; oh well.
Re the choice of role names: I chose the names partly to prevent mass claiming (eg Guy N Cognito and Mr Sparkle not actually being Homers could be suspicious, as could the relatively esoteric Potato Man and perhaps Vigilante Homer). Each came from a specific episode and was a main part of that episode, except for the Potato Man, as well as Vigilante Homer which could have been from multiple episodes (I was thinking of the Cat Burglar one). |
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Sefer
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:04 pm Post subject: 225 |
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we would have won much sooner had wizard not been an idiot..
our win was due a lot to sefer. he is a smart man. |
Why thank you
I'm not so sure that wizard hurt us in the long run. If we had 8 alive, 3 mafia and 1 sk, we wouldn't have been able to convince the town to lynch the SK because that would lead to a definate loss (unless the doc protected successfully, or we tried to off Primo) the next day with six alive, 3 mafia. Someone else would have been lynched, that may or may not have been one of us (I feel that I could have convinced town to off Primo day two based on his claim), and Sniklac would have had a kill that may or may not have been one of us. We probably would have lost one of our members to a lynch or Sniklac and had to use a kill to off Sniklac ourselves, leaving us in the same position day three- except you might have been the one lost, so we wouldn't have the extra vote to insure our victory. Removing wizard let us take out the SK while getting rid of the member that was doing the least to help us, which insured our victory D3.
For the benefit of the town- the only reason we didn't use superstring's extra vote to win the moment the day started was that it was delayed until after superstring was gone. I was stalling until that point; I didn't realized that a town member would help out and we wouldn't need the vote. I'm really not sure why superstring didn't use the extra vote and vote to finish Primo as soon as he showed up; I voted Primo because I wasn't sure if the extra vote was on MNOWAX or not. Tseirp, don't feel too bad; the only way to stop one of us winning D3 would have been for every member of the town to vote us right away.
Oh, and we used wizard's ability on MNOWAX just to mess with him, since he was already confused about not receiving results D1, and to help sell a MNOWAX/Primo scum pairing to Tseirp in case we needed to delay. I'd forgotten that performing the kill myself would remove my investigation immunity, but it worked out since it made MNOWAX look random, at best.
Good game, town. This is the first time I've been scum for an entire game (I've replaced in as scum a couple of times, but never spent much time in the role- either the game ended soon after my replacement or I got killed in the night), and I enjoyed having the opportunity to manipulate the town rather than be manipulated for once
Yes, even after the game over, I can't stop making huge posts analysing everything. _________________ Heroes Mafia Mega signups in progress: http://www.greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12124 |
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MNOWAX
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Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 10:27 pm Post subject: 226 |
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wow that was weird but really kewl thanks for modding!
GG guys! _________________ The Man The Myth The Legend
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pete d
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 7:54 am Post subject: 227 |
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for the sake of completeness, here is a list of all the choices:
day 1
Sniklac16 (raekuul) gossip: Amb is scum
night 1
Sniklac16 (raekuul) kills Josh-oo-wuh
Livingod kills The Great Cre'per
wizard kills Livingod
MNOWAX investigates Sefer
TopHat protects Sefer
day 2
Sniklac16 (raekuul) gossip: superstring91 is scum
night 2
Sefer kills TopHat
MNOWAX investigates TopHat
TopHat protects MNOWAX
MNOWAX is targetted with wizard's ability
day 3
superstring91 uses extra vote on MNOWAX
And finally, the PM I sent Sefer soon after wizard's modkill:
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While the rest of the town pay little attention to wizard's fate, you loiter a little, without anybody noticing anything.
You discover, in the small pile of ashes, a locker key, which you use to unlock the spinal cord of a nearby dog w/ puffy tail.
Inside you discover a bottle of beer! You may either use wizards ability or use him for a kill (that dog is pretty rabid now) tonight, as if he was still alive. Note that this is a one shot deal. |
Special thanks to Amb for giving advice on the wizard / Sniklac16 situation |
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Amb
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Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: 228 |
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however, you will be so drugged up that you cannot post for 96 hours (4 RL days) at the beginning of the next day
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Personally I try to avoid roles that restrict posting for set times. In a game that sometimes struggles for strong participation, this can cause a player to wander off and lose interest. |
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