Multiple-Account Voting

[Lepton]

Hi friends,

Antrax was able to do a query to give a chronological list of the users who voted in the Jesus/Hitler poll. The following set of usernames -- in chronological order -- was particularly striking:

[groza528]

Call me a n00b, but why MNOWAX? I wasn't aware he had any aliases, and I don't recognize any of the names on that list as his. Are you sure you didn't mean TGC?

[Amb]

Someone emailled me to tell me this was here. Otherwise I didnt have any intention to read it since it didnt affect me. My younger brother has access to the old shrapnel accounts of mine which I don't seriously use and I didnt think he really used either. I will check with him when I get home tonight. Highly likely it was him. I will change the passwords anyway once I get home. Most of the accounts can be scrapped - although one in particular I want to keep.

Intercom and H(und are accounts that I gave away. Intercom was given to the great creper about 3-4 days ago.

[Undercover Monk]

Scum could easily have been anyone who was in KHAV. Not just MNOWAX I still have that one and use it for jokes but this was beyond ridiculous. and Western Amb is definately TGC. People this isnt funny.
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[Zag]

While I don't know enough to vouch for MNOWAX's scruples, I'll vouch for his intelligence. I don't think he is stupid enough to vote with his real account in the middle of creating fake accounts to vote with.

I see two ways that someone might do this. Either it would be based on some anti-Christian rage or someone thinking that it would be funny. Either way, I believe the person would have voted with his own account before thinking of this "clever" ploy.

[MTGAP]

[groza528]

But the person who voted *eight* times voted for Hitler. Sorry MT, doesn't fly

[Zag]

[MTGAP]

[groza528]

Anyone know which way Cre'per was voting by the way? If he was voting for Jesus then it's possible all the multi-voting just about canceled.

[Antrax]

It's impossible to know who voted for what - that information isn't stored in the database.
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[groza528]

Right, and I agree that it shouldn't be, but that doesn't mean Crep'er hasn't expressed a public opinion one way or the other.
Not that important really, I was just curious how much of this brouhaha actually affected the poll outcome.

[MNOWAX]

Crep'er has the scum account, plus western amb was his account. my alais was Newb amb

Lepton, i believe that the statement is unwarranted, and i take high offense to that. Firstly, its a damn poll tournament. I understand that multiple votes is bad, but to basically call me a cheater, with no evidence, makes me look bad. I voted once.

Secondly, its Jesus versus Hitler whoopie. whoever did do this needs to grow up. Jesus was a jew. Hitler hated jews. He probably would have killed Jesus. Now everyone is going to send me hate mail. Does it matter? History is history.

meh i jsut think it is insulting in regards to the VG and mafia. I feel it is an insult to call me out like that and cahllenge my ethics like that. Lepton, you barely know me, how does that give you the right to put that?
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MNOWAX

[worm]

1. i'm sorry you feel wrongly accused. my take: the timing of your vote happened to be in between that of some questionable ones, and there was little else for Lepton to go on. .the statement that mentioned your name at least used "may" and "anyone else"...i would agree that the statement about mafia and VG was unnecessary, and pointed more to you and/or amb.

2. on that note, it seems from your post (and Lepton's) that mafia and visitor games should have a higher standard for integrity than the poll tournaments. can anyone explain this?

3. I came to the same conclusion as Zag pretty quickly. seemed like you'd have to be pretty stupid to create a bunch of fake accounts for multiple votes, and vote with your real user name right in the middle of the cluster, after amb's post, TGC or amb's brother seemed like the only real suspects to me.

4.

[MNOWAX]

2: i don'believe that there is a higher standard, in fact they are the same standards in my mind. i am just saying in general were here as a social community, and not a high powered balls to the wall gaming site.

4:no that wasn't my criteria i was just tryin to get some shcok value. I voted for hitler, mainly because his name i believe will be remembered like Caesar, or Gengis Khan, whereas if christianity dies out, he will be nothing more than a symbol of christianity, and not really remembered.
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MNOWAX

[Zag]

[casinopete]

[Poisonium]

[MatthewV]

Please don't argue about weather or not it is right to vote for Jesus or Hitler in this thread. Go to the thread with the original poll for that.

I believe the entire list should have been published but either way I recognize a large number of account that TGC control in the first group (Intercom to Western Amb).
I don't recognize Teacakes to safarisam (except MNOWAX who I don't believe is involved with this)
½wit, H)und, and Shadowpuppet are alternate accounts. Zag AZu and L'lanmal are unique members.

[Duke Gnome]

Heh. I was the first one to point out the vote disCrep'ency. Even at that time, I was thinking if I had to guess who was responsible there was only one name that stood out.