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Wall-E
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:49 pm    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
sAbLLimINal wrote:
Once upon a mattress. I'm king sextimus, which is really fun, but I'm not a fan of the musical as a whole. It just seems too much like one of those girly Disney movies.


Yeah I did that one my senior year. I was the wizard. It was fun but definately not my fave. But back to the game...

Convict these offshoots tend to draw people back into the game and get discussion started.

Unvote, Vote: Escaped Convict
Passing flimsy reasoning like that to lay a vote on someone on day 1 just sends off all kinds of scumbells in my head. Town votes tend to be based on jokes or OMGUS's or if a scum makes a praticularly dumb move. So yeah I was having a non-game related discussion and going fishing.
Look what I caught....


Wall-E wrote:
I can get on that wagon. I'll withold my vote to prevent a quicklynch.

Nobody on my scumdar at the moment outside Escaped Convict.


Anything else?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:57 pm    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

Wall-E wrote:
Escaped Convict wrote:
it happens that I don not like off topic discussions in a mafia game. there are other threads for that.

and even you admited, UM, that my "evidence" is flimsy thus my vote obviously cannot be all that serious.
if I were scum I'd look for stronger evidence instead of jumping around and putting myself in the spot light like that.

but I got what I wanted. a reaction.that is what first day votes are there for.
so:

unvote
and
vote: Undercover Monk for being opportunistic and trying to frame me based on "flimsy reasoning".


He's not framing you. Framing would be if the things he argued were unsupported by logic. His case against you is rooted in solid logic. Can you argue that point?


yes. I did in #53. my vote on sAbLLimINal was to start things off and get a reaction and I got it from UM. His all too serious vote on me for my obviously not too serious vote on sAbLLimINal just seemed too much.

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1) You seem eager to push past the discussion and into the mechanics of the game. Not everyone may be ready for that. It's bad for the town to rush headlong into a lynch, and the light discussion is actually helpful.


There was no real discussion because all you guys were doing was talking about musicals and trying to be funny until I started voting. That helped start things off.
Everybody should talk less about musicals and vote more in the first day.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 6:59 pm    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

Wall-E wrote:
Undercover Monk wrote:
sAbLLimINal wrote:
Once upon a mattress. I'm king sextimus, which is really fun, but I'm not a fan of the musical as a whole. It just seems too much like one of those girly Disney movies.


Yeah I did that one my senior year. I was the wizard. It was fun but definately not my fave. But back to the game...

Convict these offshoots tend to draw people back into the game and get discussion started.

Unvote, Vote: Escaped Convict
Passing flimsy reasoning like that to lay a vote on someone on day 1 just sends off all kinds of scumbells in my head. Town votes tend to be based on jokes or OMGUS's or if a scum makes a praticularly dumb move. So yeah I was having a non-game related discussion and going fishing.
Look what I caught....


Wall-E wrote:
I can get on that wagon. I'll withold my vote to prevent a quicklynch.

Nobody on my scumdar at the moment outside Escaped Convict.


Anything else?


yes. that's not a reason, that's an excuse.

WHY am I the scummiest at the moment ?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 10:37 pm    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

Correction: You WERE the scummiest.

Unvote: Vote: Poisonium
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 11:33 pm    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

I'm still going to vote: Wall-E. I'm betting he isn't even really FROM this town. This simple citizenship test should shed some light:

1. What is the town's motto?
2. When Ol' Mrs. Kreeler's barn burned down, her wig caught fire, and her scalp now has a burn scar in the shape of WHAT Eastern European country?
3. What's in a cannoli?
4. We may or may not have a doctor, but if we DID have a doctor, what did he extricate from our sheriff's rectum?
5. Our school does not teach evolution, and also does not teach intelligent design. What unusual theory does Frank "Skunky" Peterson teach to biology classes instead?

I included a trick question in there to smoke out the mafia.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:08 am    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

Loki wrote:
I'm still going to vote: Wall-E. I'm betting he isn't even really FROM this town. This simple citizenship test should shed some light:

1. What is the town's motto?
2. When Ol' Mrs. Kreeler's barn burned down, her wig caught fire, and her scalp now has a burn scar in the shape of WHAT Eastern European country?
3. What's in a cannoli?
4. We may or may not have a doctor, but if we DID have a doctor, what did he extricate from our sheriff's rectum?
5. Our school does not teach evolution, and also does not teach intelligent design. What unusual theory does Frank "Skunky" Peterson teach to biology classes instead?

I included a trick question in there to smoke out the mafia.

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1: Nobody Stands Alone
2: Turkey
3: [wikipedia]The shell is a dough made of flour, butter, sugar and other ingredients. It is formed into an oval, wrapped around a dough ring and fried. The cream filling is simpler and includes powdered sugar and ricotta cheese. The shells can be filled with creme by using a spoon or pastry bag. If not served quickly, the shells will lose their crispy texture.[/wikipedia]
4: A 39 1/2 Pole
5: Divine Random Number Generator gone haywire.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:11 am    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

And now for something completely serious:

Personally, I would like to not see a no-lynch. What are the standing arguments for/against lynching EC?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:05 am    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

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And now for something completely serious:

Personally, I would like to not see a no-lynch. What are the standing arguments for/against lynching EC?


yeah scum, don't even bother coming up with arguments on your own. let others do the work for you. pathetic.

and since we're at it, let me help you out. EC:
1. talks too much thus he steps on scums' people's toes sometimes
2. he did something very beneficial by starting voting and getting this game off the ground
3. he dares to point fingers in any and every direction he finds suspicion, like a genuine confused townie who has no clue who's dirty or not on the first day.

did I miss anything ?

I propose something revolutionary : lynch raekuul ! I'm sure he won't mind sacrificing himself for the town. right buddy ?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:10 am    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

Loki wrote:
I used to live near a small town with a population of 7 in northeastern Nevada. It was all one family, of course. There was one son that was pretty psycho. So, naturally this game reminds me of them. I shan't say who's the psycho.


Loki wrote:
I'm still going to vote: Wall-E. I'm betting he isn't even really FROM this town.


Loki do these two statements of yours mean anything put together ?

if the answer is yes, I shall follow your direction and vote Wall-E
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:30 am    Post subject: 90 Reply with quote

I still have my eye on Escaped Convict, but there is something odd about Wall-E. Loki, any follow-up?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 2:29 pm    Post subject: 91 Reply with quote

OK before we let Escaped Convicts go I feel I must remind the town of a few things.

1. Escaped Convict you can not answer my post with one that was posted several days earlier. You need to address the new issues I raised. You are paniking and are just trying to mislead us and unfortunately its working. Definately scummy

2. Wall-E is somewhere between a complete utter newb and a complete utter deusch. No offense Wall-E but your play has always been erratic and you even had a thread devoted to condeming you a couple of months ago. 50/50 for scummieness

3. Poisonium is a 13 year old danish kid whos mafia abilities have improved this year but still tends to make newbie mistakes. Not at all scummy right now to me.

4. I have no idea why Raekuul's name has even come up in this discussion. His comments have been insightful as well as open-minded. While he is good enough to probably fool me into believing he is town I'm still pretty sure I can trust him right now. Not at all scummy right now to me.

5. Undercover Monk is the future-savior of the town and is obviously trying to keep them on the straight and narrow.



Please look at escaped convict lets send this murderer to the gallows.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:44 pm    Post subject: 92 Reply with quote

uhh not to say anything relevant to the game, but no one has been murdered yet, UM.

Vote count to follow shortly
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:52 pm    Post subject: 93 Reply with quote

[quote="Undercover Monk"]
Undercover Monk wrote:
As I explained in a recent game, its not whether you have good reasoning on Day 1, you cant have good reasoning until someone messes up


and you did mess up UM, as I explained before. Your reaction and vote on me for my teaser vote on sAbLLimINal was just too much.

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The problem comes when take flimsy or joking reasoning and put it forth as a serious argument.
That reeks of scum trying to take control of a game early.


and that's exactly what you did, mister. see above.
you turn my teaser vote on sAbLLimINal on a serious argument and that reaction of yours deserves my vote.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 3:53 pm    Post subject: 94 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
uhh not to say anything relevant to the game, but no one has been murdered yet, UM.


haha, touche.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 4:35 pm    Post subject: 95 Reply with quote

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5. Undercover Monk is the future-savior of the town and is obviously trying to keep them on the straight and narrow.


What are you implying?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:32 pm    Post subject: 96 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
3. Poisonium is a 13 year old danish kid whos mafia abilities have improved this year but still tends to make newbie mistakes. Not at all scummy right now to me.

Correction: I've been 14 in quite a while now. I just never had a birthday thread, that's why no one noticed.

I find Wall-E and Escaped Convict to be very scummy at the moment. Considering their ridiculous fights, I doubt both of them are evil though.

Although, both give a "scent of newb". I dunno how else to put it.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:37 pm    Post subject: 97 Reply with quote

Dispirited You didn't say anything about me being scummy UM...though I do find this to be a little odd.

BTW, I don't really consider wall-e much of a newb as me, since he's played more games than I have.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:28 pm    Post subject: 98 Reply with quote

To MNO: What??? I didnt see where I mentioned murder Confused

To Sab: I havent really gotten a read on you yet but if you want I can call you a maybe scum Enthusiastic Grin Oh and just look at Wall-es past games and you will see what I mean.

To Escaped Convict: Your post on Sab had none of the usual trappings of a joke no haha you seemed to be delibrately picking a fight which is why I have continued to use real logical arguments and if I could get a few more votes my theory could be proven.

To Poisonium: Sorry dude and happy belated birthday, ya newb Enthusiastic Grin


Did I miss anyone? And mod could we get a new votecount weve had some vote shuffiling
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 2:58 pm    Post subject: 99 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
To MNO: What??? I didnt see where I mentioned murder Confused


Undercover Monk wrote:
Please look at escaped convict lets send this murderer to the gallows.


you said "murderer" which implies a murder has been commited.


Undercover Monk wrote:
To Escaped Convict: Your post on Sab had none of the usual trappings of a joke no haha you seemed to be delibrately picking a fight which is why I have continued to use real logical arguments and if I could get a few more votes my theory could be proven.


I obviously voted SAB for too much talk about musicals in a game of mafia. did you see me give any other serious reason for my vote ?

no matter how you twist and turn it, UM , you started and argument based on a teaser vote of mine and you continue to push this "EC is scum" campaign of yours based on crap-logic.

only a scum would be so stuborn and persistent as you on a first day (of a game that did not start with a night) when clues are basicly inexsistent.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:29 pm    Post subject: 100 Reply with quote

You use FOS: Escaped Convict and IGMEOY: Undercover Monk for gag votes, since actual votes count toward a lynch.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:34 pm    Post subject: 101 Reply with quote

yes they do count towards a lynch and you can always unvote.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:02 pm    Post subject: 102 Reply with quote

yeah ill eventually get a count done real soon
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:32 pm    Post subject: 103 Reply with quote

Escaped Convict wrote:
yes they do count towards a lynch and you can always unvote.


Not around here they don't. But, yeah, you can always unvote.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: 104 Reply with quote

Escaped Convict wrote:
Undercover Monk wrote:
To MNO: What??? I didnt see where I mentioned murder Confused


Undercover Monk wrote:
Please look at escaped convict lets send this murderer to the gallows.


you said "murderer" which implies a murder has been commited.


opps forgot about that. Only meant it as a hyperbolie

Escaped Convict wrote:

Undercover Monk wrote:
To Escaped Convict: Your post on Sab had none of the usual trappings of a joke no haha you seemed to be delibrately picking a fight which is why I have continued to use real logical arguments and if I could get a few more votes my theory could be proven.


I obviously voted SAB for too much talk about musicals in a game of mafia. did you see me give any other serious reason for my vote ?

no matter how you twist and turn it, UM , you started and argument based on a teaser vote of mine and you continue to push this "EC is scum" campaign of yours based on crap-logic.

only a scum would be so stuborn and persistent as you on a first day (of a game that did not start with a night) when clues are basicly inexsistent.


You gave no indication it was joke. no haha. no lol. no smileys. So I took it as a real vote. And now your trying to worm out of it you sir are scum.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: 105 Reply with quote

raekuul wrote:
Escaped Convict wrote:
yes they do count towards a lynch and you can always unvote.


Not around here they don't. But, yeah, you can always unvote.


I think you misunderstood me. I agreed with you that votes count towards a lynch, but that does bot mean you should use FOS or YGMEOY instead of voting because you can always unvote or change your vote if you did not mean to lynch that person in the first place.

I like the "weight" of a vote compared to a weak FOS. I ussual ignore people that fos me but people that vote instantly grab my attention.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 1:20 am    Post subject: 106 Reply with quote

Undercover Monk wrote:
Escaped Convict wrote:
Undercover Monk wrote:
To MNO: What??? I didnt see where I mentioned murder Confused


Undercover Monk wrote:
Please look at escaped convict lets send this murderer to the gallows.


you said "murderer" which implies a murder has been commited.


opps forgot about that. Only meant it as a hyperbolie

Escaped Convict wrote:

Undercover Monk wrote:
To Escaped Convict: Your post on Sab had none of the usual trappings of a joke no haha you seemed to be delibrately picking a fight which is why I have continued to use real logical arguments and if I could get a few more votes my theory could be proven.


I obviously voted SAB for too much talk about musicals in a game of mafia. did you see me give any other serious reason for my vote ?

no matter how you twist and turn it, UM , you started and argument based on a teaser vote of mine and you continue to push this "EC is scum" campaign of yours based on crap-logic.

only a scum would be so stuborn and persistent as you on a first day (of a game that did not start with a night) when clues are basicly inexsistent.


You gave no indication it was joke. no haha. no lol. no smileys. So I took it as a real vote. And now your trying to worm out of it you sir are scum.


you have to stop twisting things UM.

I did not say it was a "joke vote" . On contrary it was a very serious vote but a one based not on suspicion of someone but to stop the joking around and start playing mafia
And the fact that your are trying to build this "scum theory" around it just seams extreme. And you keep going at it after I explained myself.

You are a clear case of crap-logic user, my friend:
"true premise = EC voted SAB to make them stop talking about musicals and start playing mafia
false conclusion = thus EC must be mafia"

confirm vote: Undecover Monk. if you were a real townie you would've dropped this charade long time ago. you picked on the wrong guy to mess with, scum.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:09 pm    Post subject: 107 Reply with quote

true premise= EC voted Sab to take control of the town
true conclusion= EC is scum

Thats my logic and while it MAY prove wrong it is based on several years of playing mafia. At least one scum try to take over the game early on. That my friend would be you.

Also why would I just drop my argument. About the only thing that would change my mind is if you claimed doc or sheriff. And even then I would be suspicous. so get used to me calling you out cause thats just "how I roll" Almost Fonz Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:47 pm    Post subject: 108 Reply with quote

well, since we're showing off our experience level here, all I can say is that in my 7 years experience of playing online mafia I have noticed that the scums have the tendency to blend in as much as possible and not put the spotlight on themselves, expecially right from the get go.quite the opposite of what you're claiming.

I can assure you that the mafia were all too happy when this game was sailing along the musical discussion. one wasted day would be the mafia's gain.

so your theory does not really make sense UM.

speaking of blenging in, It'd be nice if all the other quiet scums people would start pitching in.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:13 pm    Post subject: 109 Reply with quote

I can't help but notice Sab hasn't voted for anyone at all. I think it behooves a mafia to stall this round. 2 mafia vs. 4 townies gives them a lot more breathing room than 2 mafia vs. 5 townies. So, the best course of action for a mafia may be to forestall voting altogether. Let's at least force a vote of some kind out of Sab.


unvote: Wall-E
vote: Sab

Although, for the most part, I think Wall-E is laying way too low as well.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:55 pm    Post subject: 110 Reply with quote

Escaped Convict wrote:
in my 7 years experience of playing online mafia I have noticed that the scums have the tendency to blend in as much as possible and not put the spotlight on themselves


EC, if your scum, then of course you would say that scums won't put the spotlight on themselves, because you'd just do the opposite, which is what you're doing.

To Loki: I haven't voted yet because I was afraid that a vote might get to be at L-1, and I have no idea what the vote count is right now.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:36 pm    Post subject: 111 Reply with quote

Official Vote Count
Players needed to lynch: 4

Escaped Convict - 1 - Undercover Monk
Undercover Monkl - 1 - escaped convict
Sablliminal - 1 , Loki
Posionium - 1 - wall-e

Players not voting: Poisonium, Raekuul, Sablliminal


Once again if anyone sees something wrong let me know.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:01 pm    Post subject: 112 Reply with quote

sAbLLimINal wrote:
Escaped Convict wrote:
in my 7 years experience of playing online mafia I have noticed that the scums have the tendency to blend in as much as possible and not put the spotlight on themselves


EC, if your scum, then of course you would say that scums won't put the spotlight on themselves, because you'd just do the opposite, which is what you're doing.


you can blame it on the reverse psychology all day long but I gave you my opinion from my experience.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:44 pm    Post subject: 113 Reply with quote

Damnit, we had a bandwagon, now we have four votes split among four people? How in the hell am I supposed to pick?

EVERYONE GIVE ME REASONS NOT TO VOTE FOR YOU RIGHT NOW!

Reasons for me not to vote for me:
  • voting for oneself does not end well.
  • I am townie.


you know I'm pissed when I swear like that.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: 114 Reply with quote

um, maybe we should all shut up and stop giving our opinions and just vote raekuul. sounds good to me.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:17 am    Post subject: 115 Reply with quote

Well, at least we've now heard something from Sab and raekuul.


unvote: Sab
vote: Poisonium


Rock the vote.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:07 am    Post subject: 116 Reply with quote

hey mnowax, is there any specific time the deadline ends?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 5:24 am    Post subject: 117 Reply with quote

three days from now at midnght EST
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:29 am    Post subject: 118 Reply with quote

UM talks a mean game for lynching EC but his vote is on me. Let's see what this turns up: Unvote: Vote: Escaped Convict

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:30 am    Post subject: 119 Reply with quote

Now, if UM is really sure EC is scum, he can add his vote, making EC the vote-leader and today's lynch. I leave it in your oh-so-experienced hands, UM.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:38 pm    Post subject: 120 Reply with quote

To both Mno and Wall-E I have been voting EC for more than 1 page. I even bolded my unvote. Lets get on the ball mod. Confused

jk, I still stand by my EC vote.



Undercover Monk wrote:
sAbLLimINal wrote:
Once upon a mattress. I'm king sextimus, which is really fun, but I'm not a fan of the musical as a whole. It just seems too much like one of those girly Disney movies.


Yeah I did that one my senior year. I was the wizard. It was fun but definately not my fave. But back to the game...

Convict these offshoots tend to draw people back into the game and get discussion started.

Unvote, Vote: Escaped Convict
Passing flimsy reasoning like that to lay a vote on someone on day 1 just sends off all kinds of scumbells in my head. Town votes tend to be based on jokes or OMGUS's or if a scum makes a praticularly dumb move. So yeah I was having a non-game related discussion and going fishing.
Look what I caught....

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