Death Eater Mafia - Death Eaters Win

[Sniklac16]

[Sentran]

[Sentran]

Oh, just noticed something I did not see before. I need to research a bit. In the meantime, Unvote: Jedo the Jedi.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Undercover Monk]

Yeah i just saw that two dang. Why we are at It Zag is NOT scum.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Undercover Monk]

I checked that leaves us Equestrian, Snicklac16, and Sentran. Because of his last post I would put Sentran at the bottom of that list. This leaves us with equestrian and Snick who I didnt look at during my recap. which mean several hours of work was for naught. considering how quickly night went I would say it might be equestrian I will have to check to see if she was around then.Unvote
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Sentran]

I'm going back to my previous thought process, Vote: Equestrian.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Undercover Monk]

unfortunately neither snick nor equestrian posted within 5 hours of night fall but Sentran posted within that time frame so thats a major FOS to you. I guess they could be lurking but it doesnt look good.

My apologies to jedo but you really looked guilty to me.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[equestrian]

Ok i must admit i'm totally lost....whats going on? What made you all of a sudden have a huge revelation? Because I didn't post during a certain time frame? Well if thats the case I apologize I have classes 5 days a week 7 am - 2 then i work from 3-12 so i don't have much time to get on and post as often as everyone else

[Undercover Monk]

no the major FOS goes to Sentran. He had the opportunity and the means as they say in crime dramas
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Sentran]

If I WERE scum, and I'm not... I would have learned my lesson about bussing fellow scum from last game.
Besides, why would I not post near nightfall in a game that allows night posts? I fail to understand why that looks like scum to you.

A strange thing occurred to me in a re-read...
MNO claims that Jedo is NOT SCUM, and UM claims that Zag is NOT SCUM. There has to be a reason for both claims. The most obvious is that one of you is a cop and investigated someone coming up clean, and that the other is a 2-person mason team. I know that everyone will scream that I'm scum for asking, but can anyone prove their claims?
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Sniklac16]

Ya I caught that too and was going to point that out until I read UM's post about jedo. I'm still sticking with my vote for now and think its pure coincidence that sentran posted near nightfall. I would like to hear more from mnowax he has still been pretty quiet this game. He seems to be cowering...sounds familiar
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What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

[raekuul]

Wow, today was busy. While I was away letting others use this computer, we managed to get four votes on Jedo by my count. I'll do a double-check.

[raekuul]

Here's the official vote count. Jedo the Jedi did not get lynched, but was at L-1 for a short while.

Equestrian - 2 (Zag, Sentran)
Undercover Monk - 2 (MNOWAX, Jedo the Jedi)
Jedo the Jedi - 1 (Sniklac)
Zag - 1 (Equestrian)

Reminder: Takes 4 to Nagini

[Sentran]

Raekuul, I'm pretty sure Jedo only made it to 3 votes, and is at 1 now.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Sentran]

Double post. Yes, I'm monitoring the thread pretty closely. I'm interested in the game, and work is slow at present.
I have a bizarre reasoning for doing so, but I am leaning towards Snik now. Leave the crazy to me after we kill off Chaz...
FOS: Sniklac

Also, I'd like Equestrian to explain her "What's going on?" comment. What is it that you're not understanding?
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[equestrian]

Posts 163-165. I had gotten confused i didn't understand what had happened. Also I'm more suspicious right now of UM than Zag. Sorry Zag after re-reading you weren't jumping around like I thought you were so I'm going to unvote

[Sniklac16]

Why are you leaning towards me? Because I happened to post in another thread? If thats the case you should be FOSing almost everyone. That logic makes no sense. You're starting to sound a bit desperate there sentran first going to jedo than equestrian, and now me...Hell you even voted the mod. I'm sticking with my vote but will return the favor and fos sentran for jumping around a lot
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What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

[Sentran]

My reasons for the FOS are flimsy and completely outside of game, but in this thread nonetheless. Raekuul stated that he needed to recount, but thought that Jedo had been lynched. At that point you were the last to have voted him, and Raekuul may have jumped the gun assuming the spy had dropped the hammer. Like I said, pretty flimsy. That's why I went for a FOS instead of a vote.

I'm still relatively certain that one of the people that was not voting for Chaz is another spy, possibly the only one left. I know that I've been jumping around, but I have not yet nailed down who the spy is. If searching for a spy makes me look guilty, we all deserve to be lynched. If I was more sure of my choice, I would not change my vote.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[raekuul]

It's more the fact that when I do a quick count, unvote: playername looks a lot like vote: playername. Technically, it's still a legal unvote since the only requirement is that unvote is in bold.

It's still confusing, though.

EDIT: Wordcross will be replacing Equestrian, effective Monday.

[Zag]

Holy crap! I'm away for the afternoon and evening, and the world lights on fire!

I appreciate the recap, I find it illuminating to see what people (that is, scum) choose to skip mentioning, whereas townie's recaps are usually complete. That will have to wait for tomorrow, though, especially because I feel pretty sure that UM is not the spy.

As I caught up, I felt I was on a roller coaster. I came into this feeling pretty sure that the remaining spy is probably one of the three who didn't vote for Chaz, but Jedo was on the bottom of that list, IMO. His defense of Chaz before night fell seemed to be too strong for a spy-buddy to risk. Of course, he might know we'll think that ... etc.

With UM's recap, I was starting to feel convinced. I progressed a little further and Sentran also agreed, and even Snik. As much as I try not to be swayed by groupthink, it is impossible (and wrong) not to give it some weight. I was starting to think that they were right, and Jedo was the spy.

Waiting for page 5 to come up, I started to waver -- I remembered my earlier opinion that Jedo was the least likely of the three non-Chaz-voters, and I couldn't remember what it was in UM's recap that I had found compelling. (Looking back, I realize that it wasn't any single point, just the body of evidence presented en masse.) Then WHAM! Sentran and UM both have "noticed something" that changes their minds. Let me state for the record that I haven't noticed it, and I'd really like to know what IT is. However, since you (UM) have recanted your earlier opinion, I'm willing to ignore the argument you made which I did find convincing, and just pretend I never saw it. (I'll assume that whatever you noticed is something you don't want to share with the spy, so I'll stop talking about it now.)

UM then turns on Sentran. Before the about-face, I had him (Sentran) at the top of my list of the Chaz-voters (but still below all three non-Chaz-voters). However, a scum would never have done that -- broken a perfectly good bandwagon against a townie, especially one that can later be blamed on someone else. (I'm not saying that I'm convinced Jedo is a townie, but, positing for a moment that Sentran is the spy, then Jedo must be town.) If Sentran were scum and he noticed something that exonerated Jedo, he would have just quietly hoped no one else noticed.

I do have to say, though, Sentran, that I really don't like the speculation about cops and masons. And I'll caution everybody NOT to confirm or deny it, nor to confirm or deny that you are vanilla. (I feel like I'm lecturing to Chaz again.) If the scum know who are vanilla, then they know who the power roles are by process of elimination.

And you guys scared off equestrian! You bunch of meanies!

[Jedo the Jedi]

Well, that sucks. I would much rather have been lynched than have that happen. Anyway, nothing has changed here. I don't know about the other exoneration, but it seems false (and doubly stupid after the first).

Also, is it just me or did rae, Monk, and Zag all get new titles since this game started? And here I am still being "in training." I guess that's what happens when you live in the shadow of the great Internet Stranger.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Sentran]

I apologize for speculating on power roles. I was concerned when there were two claims of innocence, that someone may be lying. With everything that has happened on day two, my opinions have changed frequently. I'm still not convinced of Equestrian's guilt or innocence, but I'll give her replacement a chance to speak before I firm up that decision.
In the meantime, Unvote, Vote: Sniklac
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Zag]

[Undercover Monk]

Wait why does equestrian want out

Zag makes a good point about a new scum player but Im not willing to vote on that flimsy of reasoning.

Anyway I wont say what Sentran and I saw yet. What I need to know is, is there a doctor in this game. It is vitaly important. If there is a doc the town has this game won. If not it will take a bit of luck but we could end up winning by day 3. So if you are the doc AND ONLY THE DOC. please roleclaim immidiately.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[raekuul]

Equestrian requested replacing because she won't have time to stay active.

[Sniklac16]

[Sniklac16]

Oh and I meant to add at the end there FOS Undercover Monk
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What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

[Sniklac16]

C'mon everyone let's not let this game die down
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What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

[raekuul]

I'm placing Friday as the deadline. If I wake up Saturday and there has not been enough votes to Nagini, I will do the standard 'Lynch Person with Most Votes', preferring power roles in the event of ties.

[MNOWAX]

can we claim Scum is a power role?
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MNOWAX

[raekuul]

Anything that's not vanilla will be considered a power role, yes.

[Sniklac16]

Can we get an official vote count so we know what we are working with?
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What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

[raekuul]

Wordcross - 1 (Zag)
Undercover Monk - 2 (MNOWAX, Jedo the Jedi)
Sentran - 1 (Sniklac)
Sniklac - 1 (Sentran)

[Undercover Monk]

I dont think the game has died down. It was a holiday weekend of course posts go down. Now that we are back to weekday we should see an upswing in posts. If the doc doesnt show himself by tonight I will go ahaed and post my theory its time to get all the info out in the open. Im not really expecting a doc cause that would be kinda an overpowered town. Also Snick the only thing Jedo and I seem to agree on is that there is only 1 spy left. 3 spies would be way to much for this many players. Also I would like to hear from wordcross what he thinks of the game so far
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Zag]

I'm not saying much new in this post, just reiterating my current thinking. (There is a tiny bit about MNO at the bottom, which I don't think I have said yet, though I've been considering it for a while. I also don't think it is relevant; it's just a very minor bit of suspicion.)

I continue to believe that the spy is one of the three who did not vote to lynch Chaz, the stinking muggle-lover. I don't, however, have strong feelings about which, though. Therefore, I'll be switching my vote to whomever of those three has the most votes, with the goal of ensuring that one of those gets lynched.

My current top choice is equestian/wordcross, but I am waiting to hear from wordcross. Snick is a close second, though, and I have no problems voting for him. Jedo is third only because UM and Sentran have cleared him for reasons I continue not to understand. (UM earned trust for his role in lynching Chaz. Sentran earned trust by collapsing the bandwagon on Jedo, something no scum would ever have done. He would have simply let it happen, since he was not even the driving force behind it and could easily escape blame.)

Of the people who did lynch Chaz, only MNO is left as someone who voted early enough that it could just have been distancing, and then felt too trapped to unvote (especially after his vitriolic attacks, which were conceivably pretend though I doubt it). But I still think it is one of the three who were not in there cheering Nagini on as she ate the disgusting mudblood.

[Zag]

Ack! Grammar mistakes. I really want to edit. (Sigh)

[Sniklac16]

[Sentran]

First of all, due to the relevance to this thread, Happy St. Valentine's Day Massacre Anniversary to everyone!

Next, on to my suspicions and why I'm voting Snik.
As I've said, I am not convinced on Snik's guilt, but I'm far from convinced of his innocence. He is near the top of my suspect list, along with Wordcross and ahead of Jedo/MNO. I am voting Snik in favor of Word because Word has yet to post on the thread. I could easily go either way.
I have many suspicions about power roles, but I'm not willing to share yet. Too many variables to tip my hand yet.
I find Zag's recent post to be on the mark and well-reasoned. If you want to link me to Zag for this, go ahead. Throw UM into that mix too. I feel that the 3 of us, working together, can out the scum and win this game. We lynched us a half-blood Prince, who's next for the gallows?
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Jedo the Jedi]

It's a shame one of you Chaz voters is the final scum.

I don't think the doc should come out. There's no need. If the doc picked up on what three of us saw, then everything will be fine. I really think you should stop promoting that, Monk.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Undercover Monk]

Fine you guys want to know what I know. You want to see this game through my eyes. I am peter pettigrew loyal death-eater and roleblocker. I tried to breadcrumb my role early when I complained about his inclusion in the game (especially as a power role.) I also noted his SMALL role. in refrence to his ability to turn into a rat and he is played by Timothy Spall. I blocked Zag the first night. Unless we started out with three spies that clears him. leaving only Sentran, snicklac16, and wordcross. Unless Jedo has a GF ability.

Zag makes a good point about Sentran and the derailing of the bandwagon so for now I willing to lynch Snick. Its nothing personal Snick its just Your one of the few I can NOT trust. If you guys think wordcross would be the better lynch thats fine too.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning