| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
wordcross
|
 Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:59 pm Post subject: 41 |
 |
|
In the interest of moving the game along:
Unvote: MNOWAZ
Vote: Sniklac16
_________________
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
|
| Back to top |
|
 |
Zag
Tired of his old title
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:15 pm Post subject: 42 |
|
|
Official vote count
MNOWAX: Sniklac
Sniklac16: UMonk, Jedo, wordcross
Ctorj:
Chaz:
Sentran: Chaz
Lifeinmomland: MNO
wordcross:
Undercover Monk:
Jedo the Jedi:
raekuul:
Not voting: Lifeinmomland, raekuul, Sentran, Ctorj |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MNOWAX
0.999... of a Troll
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 4:19 pm Post subject: 43 |
|
|
I think it was jsut as dirty with the word potions. 
_________________
The Man The Myth The Legend
MNOWAX |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
raekuul
Lives under a bridge & tells stories.
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:13 pm Post subject: 44 |
|
|
| Is this a Pressurewagon or a Lynchwagon on Snik? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:14 pm Post subject: 45 |
|
|
| MNOWAX wrote: |
| I think it was jsut as dirty with the word potions. |
Rufee Colada, eh? Tell me, what do those taste like?
I think I'd be taking the game (and my character) a bit more seriously if I knew the source material. I'll do a bit of research soon.
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wordcross
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:00 pm Post subject: 46 |
|
|
| raekuul wrote: |
| Is this a Pressurewagon or a Lynchwagon on Snik? |
Not sure exactly what you mean, but I guess it'd be a pressurewagon. No one is doing anything significant yet, so we might as well head in a direction and see what we find.
_________________
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject: 47 |
|
|
| wordcross wrote: |
| raekuul wrote: |
| Is this a Pressurewagon or a Lynchwagon on Snik? |
Not sure exactly what you mean, but I guess it'd be a pressurewagon. No one is doing anything significant yet, so we might as well head in a direction and see what we find. |
Pretty much. If people would stop hopping off as soon as three votes are placed, we might actually get somewhere.
word, regarding your FOS, I was just using a figure of speech saying Chaz didn't have the balls to keep a bandwagon going.
About the typo, I thought is was supposed to be "positions." Clearly, you can't do the missionary position unless one person is the untrained heathen.
_________________
Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lifeinmomland
Soccer, dance, doctor's appt. this AM.
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 7:24 pm Post subject: 48 |
|
|
I see that these converstations can degrade with the best of them... very well. I will hop on the bandwagon of silliness and vote blind as well.
VOTE: MNO
... cause you voted for me
_________________
Who is John Gult? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject: 49 |
|
|
What the heck, I might as well target someone to get the ball rolling.
Vote: Undercover Monk
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ctorj
Did I spell that right?
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 12:19 am Post subject: 50 |
|
|
| wordcross wrote: |
In the interest of moving the game along:
Unvote: MNOWAZ
Vote: Sniklac16 |
The dreaded 3rd vote.
Vote: wordcross
I'd like a better reason for a 3rd vote besides "moving the game along" please.
_________________
"Love is the absolute expression of the human perfection" -Me!
Created by MyFitnessPal.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
raekuul
Lives under a bridge & tells stories.
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:13 am Post subject: 51 |
|
|
| Eh, why not. It'll lead to information one way or another. vote:Sniklac16 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wordcross
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 3:28 am Post subject: 52 |
|
|
| Ctorj wrote: |
| I'd like a better reason for a 3rd vote besides "moving the game along" please. |
Well, you're not getting one. No one was really going anywhere. the MNOWAX bandwagon was abandoned, and snik was the next highest. Deal with it.
_________________
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sniklac16
Spaciest of aides
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:36 pm Post subject: 53 |
|
|
Yeah I must agree with ctorj thats not a very good reason for voting for me...Im still happy with my vote since hes voted for 3 people already and hasnt really done anything else yet. But i will also fos wordcross for that weak vote on me, seems like hes distancing himself
_________________
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
MNOWAX
0.999... of a Troll
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:37 pm Post subject: 54 |
|
|
That's a good way to get yourself lynched word. Trust me. I know.
_________________
The Man The Myth The Legend
MNOWAX |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 5:53 pm Post subject: 55 |
|
|
Unvote
Vote: Wordcross
He seems far too eager to lynch.
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:03 pm Post subject: 56 |
|
|
I'm about to be convinced everybody is scum except me. I know the conversation is weak, but we are accusing each other over the littlest crap. word read too much into an idiom, Ctorj and Sentran are going bat crazy over a 3rd vote. Really?
The 3rd vote on a bandwagon marking scum went out of style years ago. Do you two not see how slow this day is moving? A bandwagon is exactly what we need! Also, when did word ever say he wanted a lynch and fast? Getting a bandwagon rolling is often used just for pressure and to promote conversation, it doesn't mean we roll on to a lynch without stopping. In fact, word specifically said that it was for pressure. If I wasn't happy with this pressure-wagon we have going, I would totally jump votes over to one of you. You two should know better.
The nerve of some people. (If conversation doesn't jump after this, I'm going to be disappointed.)
_________________
Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wordcross
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:04 pm Post subject: 57 |
|
|
I'm sorry, I'm not sure how being vote 3 when it's 6 to lynch is "eager to lynch".
As I said in reply to raekuul, This bandwagon is simply to get the game moving since there was very little posting going on, much less any actual progress in the game. We've had more posts now, but still not much progress.
if I (or anyone else, but I seem to be popular right now) get to 4 votes I'll unvote snik. Or if someone else votes for him I'll unvote. 4 is good enough for pressure, but I don't want him at Lynch -1 yet, if ever.
_________________
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
wordcross
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:05 pm Post subject: 58 |
|
|
Or, you know, what Jedo said.
_________________
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 7:03 pm Post subject: 59 |
|
|
Crap, I misread. I apologize to Wordcross. Unvote
I saw your vote quoted in Ctorj's post, and mistakenly thought that you were the fourth vote for Snik. I meant to Vote: Raekuul for dropping a fourth vote.
Jedo, my first vote (on Chaz) was a joke. I did not seriously consider UM's post about third in a bandwagon from the Death Eater game (although he WAS correct). My vote on UM was to try to encourage him to post (because he's far too quiet this game), and my vote on Word was intended for Raekuul. I'll try to be less jumpy if I live to see day 2, and I have more to go on.
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
raekuul
Lives under a bridge & tells stories.
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 8:58 pm Post subject: 60 |
|
|
| Sentran, how is placing the Pressure Vote being way too eager to lynch? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Undercover Monk
Professor Chaos
|
| Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:27 pm Post subject: 61 |
|
|
well im quiet cause last game i got hammered on my day 1 philosiphy. and Im happy with the snick wagon for now.
_________________
The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Chaz
Vote: Zag
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 12:15 am Post subject: 62 |
|
|
Unvote: Sentran; Vote: Ctorj
It's usually the ones who are talking and guessing, but not actually voting (or only voting once they feel their vote will lead to a lynch.
_________________
The enemy's base is down. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Zag
Tired of his old title
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:14 am Post subject: 63 |
|
|
The discussion rate has not been quiet for any long periods, but it has not been very active, either. We are 5 (real) days into this game and we're only on page 2. 5 days into Death Eater Mafia, it was on page 5.
I'll just threaten a deadline, not actually set one, yet. If the activity doesn't pick up a bit, I'll make one. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Chaz
Vote: Zag
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 2:27 pm Post subject: 64 |
|
|
| Undercover Monk wrote: |
| well im quiet cause last game i got hammered on my day 1 philosiphy. and Im happy with the snick wagon for now. |
Unvote: Ctorj; Vote: Undercover Monk
Making excuses for being quiet feels "off" to me. I can't believe I didn't see it yesterday.
_________________
The enemy's base is down. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:46 pm Post subject: 65 |
|
|
| Chaz wrote: |
| Undercover Monk wrote: |
| well im quiet cause last game i got hammered on my day 1 philosiphy. and Im happy with the snick wagon for now. |
Making excuses for being quiet feels "off" to me. I can't believe I didn't see it yesterday. |
I'm glad someone else sees it now. Let's see if we can get a discussion ball rolling. Unvote, Vote: Undercover Monk
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 4:49 pm Post subject: 66 |
|
|
UM, I understand part of your reasoning. I got grief for the same game plan this game, and others are questioning me for using the exact same tactics that they are employing. It's a strange mix of frustrating and amusing. Still, I think you're too quiet this game.
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
|
| Posted: Fri Feb 25, 2011 6:15 pm Post subject: 67 |
|
|
| Undercover Monk wrote: |
| well im quiet cause last game i got hammered on my day 1 philosiphy. and Im happy with the snick wagon for now. |
Spare me. I hammered all three of you because it was a policy lynch (meaning on principle because Chaz is bad for the town as a townie, and if he isn't a townie, then he is scum and needs to be lynched anyway) which you later tried to justify with "reasoning." That's what I hammered you guys for. Don't be gun-shy over that, just call a duck a duck and everything will be good.
Anyway, you should post more. Also, you people who are trying to "get the ball rolling," it doesn't work if you pick someone with zero votes. That just makes it look like you are being pro-town when you aren't actually being pro-town. (I'm looking at you, Sentran.) Admittedly, you stated it was to encourage him to talk, and now it is tied up with his post, but again, let's just be honest around here and call things by what they are.
_________________
Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 1:12 am Post subject: 68 |
|
|
| Jedo the Jedi wrote: |
vote Ctorj
Who better to vote for than the person whose name is nearly impossible to pronounce? |
[quote="Jedo the Jedi]I hammered all three of you because it was a policy lynch...[/quote]
Unless I am not comprehending your meaning entirely, a "policy lynch" is any lynch based on a policy determined outside of the game. You griped at UM due to his desire to lynch Chaz as a "policy" last game as well. Then you begin this game with a vote against someone based on their name, while still admonishing "policy" lynches. I would also like to point out the fact that while you were grumbling about being "right" about the setup of the Death Eater game, you did not ONCE post a vote for one of the scum.
FOS: Jedo the Jedi
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 5:38 pm Post subject: 69 |
|
|
| Mafiawiki wrote: |
| A policy lynch is an argument for the lynch of a player that may be advanced not because the player is found to be particularly scummy, but because the player's bad play will hurt the town later on. The efficacy of policy lynches is a hotly debated topic in almost any game in which it comes up due to the fact that the town arguably loses an opportunity to lynch a scummy player. |
This is what was going on last game. Chaz had previously shown himself to be dangerous to town as a townie, so the push was he should be lynched because he is a liability to town. That means if he is scum he needs to be lynched (that's the nature of the game), and if he's town he needs to be lynched because he will not be helpful.
My vote and the flavor were just a standard random vote with some crazy reasoning thrown in to demonstrate its random nature. I was not voting Ctorj because I think he's a liability to the town regardless of alignment.
As for not voting a single scum last game: 1) there were only two; 2) I was abstaining from Chaz for the policy lynch reasoning which I've been espousing (which was correct, it just turned out fortunate for town); and 3) I was on the right track that the second scum had been voting Chaz, but I didn't live long enough to pick the correct person. If I'm not mistaken, Zag played an amazing game, and it was only at the last minute that he was suspected. (Besides, let's be honest, Monk was way scummier looking than Zag, and clearly I'm not the only one who thought so considering the town chose to lynch Monk.)
_________________
Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
raekuul
Lives under a bridge & tells stories.
|
| Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2011 9:58 pm Post subject: 70 |
|
|
| What gave Zag away in Death Eater Mafia was me telling UM that he did block something night 1 |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Zag
Tired of his old title
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 6:56 am Post subject: 71 |
|
|
Hmmm. Only 7 posts in 2 and a half days since my threat.
Deadline: Wednesday evening, EST. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sniklac16
Spaciest of aides
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:30 pm Post subject: 72 |
|
|
well to try and get this game going im going to unvote vote undercover monk id also like to put a fos on lifeinmomland for only posting twice since the game started. Id like to hear more from her
_________________
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sniklac16
Spaciest of aides
|
| Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:31 pm Post subject: 73 |
|
|
ok i dont know why my entire post was bolded almost 
_________________
What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
raekuul
Lives under a bridge & tells stories.
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:10 am Post subject: 74 |
|
|
| UM... why, specifically? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Lifeinmomland
Soccer, dance, doctor's appt. this AM.
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:24 am Post subject: 75 |
|
|
 I am just trying to get a feel for the game. I am new after all. I find little to say in these arguments so far. In the interest of full disclosure, I have been working on a three page paper due in one of my classes in IRL requiring 6 references, and that has been rather time consuming. Further I have not yet found a reason to change my vote. I am watching Jedo, he seems snarky and antagonistic, which I find suspicious.
Plus my last suggested got me a vote 
_________________
Who is John Gult? |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ctorj
Did I spell that right?
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:23 pm Post subject: 76 |
|
|
Mod: Can I get a vote count?
Also, FOS: No Lynch
I really don't see anything solid this first day so far, especially since it's been so slow.
_________________
"Love is the absolute expression of the human perfection" -Me!
Created by MyFitnessPal.com |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Undercover Monk
Professor Chaos
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 4:28 pm Post subject: 77 |
|
|
Wrong again jedo I was lynched by the town because the sheriff was given the incorrect info that I was scum. I didnt even get a chance to post that day so it clearly had nothing to do with my scummieness.
besides the wiki you quoted clearly said policy lynches effectiveness are highly debated. So clearly the issue has yet to be decided. Just cause you think policy lynches dont work doesnt make it true.
As far as being the "day 1 sacrifice" Im fine with it. We already know there are no vanilla players so any wrong lynch is gonna hurt the town but we do need info and its not looking like much will be gotten today.
Snick dont be to hard on momland. shes a newb and this game is slow anyway what do you expect her to post. Ive played mafia for years and dont have much to say. I think the problem is DE mafia went so fast we (the town) are trying to compensate be being more cautious. (thats how i am feeling anyway)
As much as I disagree with Jedo on how DE was played we did get really lucky. I know when to not push that luck too far. what can I say I'm a man of contradictions. 
_________________
The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:01 pm Post subject: 78 |
|
|
| Lifeinmomland wrote: |
| I am watching Jedo, he seems snarky and antagonistic, which I find suspicious. |
Little do you know that's how I am IRL. Thanks for the compliment.
| Undercover Monk wrote: |
Wrong again jedo I was lynched by the town because the sheriff was given the incorrect info that I was scum. I didnt even get a chance to post that day so it clearly had nothing to do with my scummieness.
besides the wiki you quoted clearly said policy lynches effectiveness are highly debated. So clearly the issue has yet to be decided. Just cause you think policy lynches dont work doesnt make it true. |
You're correct on the first. I had forgotten that. (Though MNO did investigate you over everyone else, and they were quick to believe him even without any evidence that he was indeed whom he suggested.)
The second is indeed contentious. The argument would hinge on a definition of "effectiveness." It is clearly not effective in catching scum (except in lucky breaks like we recently experienced), but it may be effective in increasing the odds of a more intelligent and cooperative town. The end of the matter is (as in the quote) the loss of a scum lynch (insert above exception). It's hard to say if that is a worthy trade-off for eliminating a typically detrimental player (who in our case actually cast the winning vote, so I would argue his status as such).
So...they don't work for catching scum (exception). Chaz is not in fact a bad player. Play one game on scum and you will meet the people about whom this subject is debated. (They use only out-dated metas and almost no logic on top of being belligerent.)
_________________
Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Sentran
Ray of Sucking Funshine
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:18 pm Post subject: 79 |
|
|
Jedo: I don't play on mafiascum, or any place other than here. I don't bother to look anything up on scum unless there's a role that I've never heard of or don't fully understand (like Jester when it was brought up during the Depp game). Do you really feel that lynching someone because you don't like their play style, or their track record, or any myriad of other reasons is more questionable than lynching someone because you don't like their name, or you rolled dice and their name came up, etcetera? In other words, why is a policy lynch a less reasonable day one tactic than a random lynch?
I think that creating a policy lynch against a certain player is a bad idea. First, it will give the scum an easy target on day one, and prevent the random from catching one of them, unless that person happens to be scum. Besides, as you said, Chaz is not a bad player. That being said, I think most people have the "lynch Chaz" bug out of their system, if the recent votes are any indication. Now, about your vendetta against UM...
_________________
Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Jedo the Jedi
Paragon in Training
|
| Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 5:39 pm Post subject: 80 |
|
|
| Sentran wrote: |
| Do you really feel that lynching someone because you don't like their play style, or their track record, or any myriad of other reasons is more questionable than lynching someone because you don't like their name, or you rolled dice and their name came up, etcetera? In other words, why is a policy lynch a less reasonable day one tactic than a random lynch? |
The difference is with a policy lynch, you intend from the start to have the player (usually multiple people are in agreement already about the person being "anti-town" regardless of alignment) be lynched. Random votes do not generally stay. They are a place filler and discussion starter. If that doesn't work, you may start a random bandwagon (what word and I have tried to start) which usually produces more discussion because the person is outraged their are being lynched by mere fate. Usually, with that discussion, somebody shows themselves scummy and a real lynch ensues. I have rarely seen a random lynch actually take place.
All that to say, yes. I don't think it is worth it to sacrifice a town player because they are typically detrimental to town winning in place of actually trying for a scum lynch. If nothing is showing up except a random bandwagon heading toward a lynch (again, not in my experience), then a policy lynch is probably better. (The second half of your post agrees policy lynch is bad and for mostly my same reasons.)
The only reason I'm talking about this at all is because I'm trying to defend my own consistency. I don't care if I sway people. Just know, if you try a policy lynch, I will oppose you...vehemently. 
What vendetta against Monk?
_________________
Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting. |
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
FAQ
Search
Memberlist
Usergroups
Register
Profile
Log in to check your private messages
Log in
