Ender's Game Mafia is over. Congrats, Town!!

[raekuul]

[would have been lynched anyway]

[Zag]

I would like to apologize publicly to Snik for not making it crystal clear in the rules, and especially to raekuul, who is the innocent victim in all this.

(Now you REALLY have to go back one page, eh?)

[Undercover Monk]

Wow Zag thats an amazingly complex but perfectly fits their characters in the first book. So that leaves us with Bonzo Madrid correct as our last mafia i assume....

This also helps cement Ender being in the game in my mind are we up to me....

I am Petra Arkania, role blocker. I blocked MNO and Chaz. My blocks only work against evil players.

Jedo what were your your investigations.
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3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Lifeinmomland]

Um, alright. SO... that happened.


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[bgg1996]

bgg1996 ----------- Andrew "Ender" Wiggin: Doctor
Undercover Monk --- Petra Arkania: role blocker
Lifeinmomland ----- Crazy Tom: Commuter
Jedo the Jedi ----- Bean: cop

It's Ender's Game, so Ender is definitely in it. If Nikolai is in it, Bean definitely is. Between Petra and Crazy Tom, I'm going to say that Crazy tom isn't all that important. However, UM was the last to claim, so it could be him too.

I really want those investigations, because from my PoV, it's either UM, or LIML. Please tell me you got one of them.


Okay, so since Jedo is pretty much clear, if he didn't investigate them, we vote no lynch today, Jedo investigates UM/LIML, tomorrow the town trust him. I'll protect Jedo, so the mafia doesn't kill him.
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[Jedo the Jedi]

I investigated wordcross night 1 (innocent) and Monk night 2 (innocent).

Scum appears to be Mom simply because it seems Ender must be in the game. If we happen to go to night, Monk will obviously block bgg, though I would crap myself if that happens.

unvote, vote Lifeinmomland
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[bgg1996]

Vote: Lifeinmomland
talk about a good idea with the mass claim.
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[Undercover Monk]

Unless Ender is not and the town is simply his generals. The only thing that prevents that theory is Nickolais inclusion who wasnt featured in the first book. And benards inclusion who only ever posed a threat to endr himself so yeah I will hammer and hope to God I am right.

Die Bonzo
Vote: Lifeinmomland
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1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Zag]

Well, that's the game.

Lifeinmomland is, in fact, Bonzo Madrid. It really was just the luck of the dice that Sentran and Mom were two of the Mafia.

Here are my notes on the game.

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Order of Actions:
Town Role-blocker
Mafia Role-blocker
Message Sender
Doctor
Cop investigates
Peter investigates (if he chooses to)
Achilles kills or investigates (Note that we didn't have this role. If there had been 11 players, we would have.)
Mafia night-kill
EMT possibly saves

MNO - Dink Meeker
Sentran - Bernard
Chaz - Ender
raekuul - Valentine
UM - Petra
Snik - Peter
wordy - Hot Soup
Ctorj - Nikolai
Lifeinmomland - Bonzo
Jedo - Bean


Town:

Bean: cop
You are Bean, a member of the town. Each night you can choose one other player and learn his alignment.

Andrew "Ender" Wiggin: doctor
You are Ender, a member of the town. Each night you can choose one person other than yourself, and protect him from any night kills

Dink Meeker: Paranoid townie
You are Dink Meeker, a member of the town. If anyone targets you in the night, you hide in your secret room in the basement and observe him on your super-secret security system. I will PM you with the player's name and you can choose to meet the person or not. If you do not, then that person does not investigate you, protect you, kill you, or whatever he had planned on. If a second person comes to your room, you, having now relaxed your guard, will be affected, whether you chose to meet the first person or not. (That is, unless you met the first person and that person protects you from the second, such as a doctor protecting you from a night-kill.) Note that killing actions come after investigative and protective actions.

Petra Arkanian: selective role-blocker
You are Petra Arkanian, a member of the town. Each night you will PM me with the name of a player. If that player is evil and has a night-time activity (other than the standard mafia night-kill) you will prevent him from using it. If the player is innocent OR if the player has no night-time activity, your ability will not have any affect. You won't know either way.

Han Tzu (nicknamed Hot Soup): Message sender
You are Han Tzu, a member of the town. Each night you can PM me with the name of a player and include a message of six words or fewer. If that player is a member of the town, he will get the message intact. If he is not a member of the town, he will know that you sent him a message but will not be able to break the code. I will not confirm or deny anything you put in the message. I will only contact the person you sent it to and say one of these two things: ____ has sent you a message: "<Contents of the message>" or ____ has sent you a message but you are unable to decode it.

Nikolai Delphiki: EMT
You are Nikolai Delphiki, a member of the town. Your father was a world-renown doctor, and you've inherited some of his talent. You have a one-time ability to revive one person who was killed. Each night, until you use the ability, I will contact you and tell you who has been killed (all of them, if there are more than one). You then can choose to revive them or not. However, the person who tried to kill that person will spot you at the scene. Also, the person you revive will lose his night-time ability and will be a vanilla version of whatever alignment they used to be.

Valentine Wiggin: sister of Peter (possibly observes Peter's investigation)
You are Valentine Wiggin, a member of the town. You are sister to Peter Wiggin, whom you know is evil (and he knows that you are good). If either of you dies, then the two of you have left enough incriminating evidence that the other will immediately be arrested (and out of the game -- effectively dead). The two of you can talk to each other at night, and you also have a separate win condition -- if the two of you are the only two left alive, then you two alone win, and this should be considered to be a superior win than winning with the town. (He has the same win condition.)

You also know of Peter's other activities, and he doesn't know you know. He sometimes has a choice NOT to talk to you during the night, but instead go do something else. When he does this, you can follow him and see whom he goes to see. Note that he expects that you will just be waiting for him to talk to you during the night (pining away, no doubt), but he isn't allowed to do so if he uses his other ability. You don't know what, exactly, it is that he does on the nights he refuses to talk to you. You may post in the thread as if all you are doing is waiting for him to show up.

Mafia:
Bonzo Madrid: Godfather
You are Bonzo Madrid, a member of the mafia. You have the final say in whom the mafia kills. Also, if you are investigated, you will be seen as a townie.

Your fellow mafia are ____, who is Bernard, a role-blocker, and ____ who is Peter Wiggin. Note that Peter is unable to meet with you at mafia headquarters each night, so he is unable to speak with you and Bernard. However, he CAN observe what is being said through his impressive security hacking. So know that he can observe everything you and Bernard say, and he can talk normally in the game thread during the day, he just can't speak to you at night.

Bernard: Role-blocker
You are Bernard, a member of the Mafia. You can participate in the night time mafia conversations.

Your fellow mafia are ____, who is Bonzo Madrid, a Godfather, and ____ who is Peter Wiggin. Note that Peter is unable to meet with you at mafia headquarters each night, so he is unable to speak with you and Bernard. However, he CAN observe what is being said through his impressive security hacking. So know that he can observe everything you and Bonzo say, and he can talk normally in the game thread during the day, he just can't speak to you at night.

Peter Wiggin: brother of Valentine, can not speak at night, possible role-investigator
You have the most complicated role here. You are a member of the mafia, but with a special restriction that you can not speak with them at night. With your advanced surveillance systems, you are able to observe everything they say, but you have no way to speak. (You can speak normally in the regular thread during the day.) They know who you are and that you are observing them, and they understand that you have no ability to talk to them, but they don't know anything about the rest of your role. (If they have any brains, they'll figure out that you have some compensating ability, though.) Your fellow mafia are ____, who is Bonzo Madrid, a Godfather, and ____ who is Bernard, a role-blocker.

You second role is that you are brother to Valentine Wiggin, whom you know is good (and she knows that you are evil). If either of you dies, then the two of you have left enough incriminating evidence that the other will immediately be arrested (and out of the game -- effectively dead). The two of you can talk to each other at night, and you also have a separate win condition -- if the two of you are the only two left alive, then you two alone win, and this should be considered to be a superior win than winning with the mafia. (She has the same win condition.)

Finally, you have one more ability! After the first night (which you must spend with Valentine), you can choose not to spend time with your sister (i.e. you can't talk to her) but instead go out and investigate someone. If you do, you will learn that person's name, role, and abilities. Of course, you would have to find some way to pass this on to your mafia buddies, with whom you can only communicate in the regular game thread. If you choose to talk with Valentine, you don't get to do an investigation.

Achilles de Flandres: Serial Killer, possible mafia member.
You are a Serial Killer. Each night, you give me the name of a person you want to kill or investigate. If you choose to investigate someone, then you will learn everything about them: alignment, name, abilities, and whether that person visited or was visited by anyone that night. (But you only have this option if you choose to remain a serial killer. See below.) You win only if you are the last person left alive at the end of the game. Note that you kill before the mafia do (you're better at it), so if it comes down to a night with just you and a mafia member, then you will win.

At the end of the first day, if the person lynched is a mafia member, then you might have the option to take his place AFTER performing your first kill. (I'll let you know if you have the option.) In that case, you take over his abilities, you are no longer a serial killer, you no longer have any night-kill other than as a mafia member, and you no longer have any win condition other than with the mafia. You do not have the option to investigate instead of killing if you choose this path.


Day 1:
Sentran (mafia role-blocker) lynched

Night 1:
UMonk blocks MNO, MNO decides to allow him to see him there.
word sends message to Chaz
Chaz protects UMonk
Jedo investigates word
Mom kills word
Ctorj does not decide to save him.

I find it quite amusing that the two pieces of info that the town might have gotten: Jedo investigating wordcross and Chaz responding to wordcross and therefore confirming he is town, BOTH were destroyed by Mom's selection of wordcross. Well done, Mom!

When I got the original set of instructions, I then sent messages out to MNO and Ctorj to get their responses. I was really expecting that MNO would refuse to meet UMonk, and Ctorj would revive wordcross. That would make for a funny combination, because MNO would then assume that the lack of a night-kill was because UMonk was the killer and that he, himself, was the target. As I'm writing this (the middle of Day 2), I'm still hoping that it happens tomorrow.

Day 2:
Ctorj, Townie EMT (one-shot ability to revive the night-kill target) lynched

Night 2:
UM role-blocks Chaz, but he is town so it doesn't have an effect.
Chaz protects raekuul (I rolled this randomly, because he didn't send in choices.)
Jedo investigates UMonk
Snik investigates Chaz
Mom goes to kill MNO
MNO chooses to reveal himself to Mom, and is killed.

I thought that MNO would protect himself, but the alluring pull of information is too great. Or maybe he just trusted Mom.


There were three QuickTopic threads. If you want to read them chronologically, read them bottom up.


Mafia: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/vqEqbdKQmXtb
Peter and Valentine: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/T7pdCtD2yauW
Deceased: http://www.quicktopic.com/45/H/msbdKFuGNRVjz

[Jedo the Jedi]

First of all, congrats to town! I think we played pretty solidly.

Second, Mom did an excellent job for a n00b. You played the n00b card just enough, and I think you had a decent rebuttal against my argument. If I had been more sure like I was with Amb two games ago, it wouldn't have saved you, but I was just clutching at straws.

Comments:
1) I don't think I should have received a result for wordy since he died, but it is appropriate given your action resolution sequence. It just insures I know my alignment which may be unfair.

2) I think day should have ended with the modkill. Usually day is ended if the modkill hurts that team the most. In this case, Mom could have had another night kill and some confusion day 4 to work for a win. The way it worked out, I don't think she had as good a chance.

3) The safeclaim Mom had seemed fishy to me. Her saving grace would have been that both Snik's and rae's claims were suspect as bgg pointed out. *shrug* Just something to think about.

Monk, we had the Ctorj mishap, but all-in-all I think we did well. We make a good team. We also couldn't have done it without the other townies, especially the reliable Chaz replacement, bgg. We've been doing well with me as town, but I think I want to be scum in an up-coming game. Of course, having said that, I'm just going to be auto-lynched in the next game on principle.
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Jedo the Jedi]

I forgot to include my investigation reasons. Day 1 word made one comment of which I was suspicious, and he was formidable enough that I didn't want to confront him in thread. I investigated Monk because I wanted to make sure he was on my side what with us agreeing so much. That one turned out to be a good choice.
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Zag]

I agree that Mom did a great job. It's very tough when a Mafia is lynched on the first day. When designing the game, I aimed to balance it with the expectation that it will be a townie. However, I had the 11th role, Achilles, as the balancer in the case that a mafia was killed. Unfortunately, I could only get the 10 players.

I considered just letting the game go on, but that was a certain death for Mom, because raekuul already knew who the other mafia member was. I don't know if I considered having the day end right there, but I don't actually think that had any more hope for Mom than what I did. She would probably have killed bgg, since the doc is the only guaranteed kill she can make, and I knew that Jedo had already investigated UMonk. If UMonk had been anything other than a role-blocker, it possibly would have worked, because Jedo would probably investigate Mom and would have gotten a town reading on her, too. However, if she were role-blocked, I had already decided that the effect was to remove her Godfather protection from cops.

Anyway, we'll never know.

[bgg1996]

You know, it was pure luck that we won.

It didn't matter which one he had investigated, one was the godfather.
He would've killed me, then won in a tie. Which makes our victory that much sweeter.
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[bgg1996]

Of course, I doubted that Petra had been left out.
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[Lifeinmomland]

LOL, I was enjoying a family day at the coast when you killed me! YOu wretched people you!
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[Ctorj]

Yay town!!!!

Boo dumb cops who lynch doctors!

Great game overall. Enjoyed myself and now I want to read the other books after Ender's game.
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[Undercover Monk]

yay on to the next game.
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1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning