Heroes Mafia:Game Over

[Lucresia]

I also noticed we haven't heard from UM yet today, what are your thoughts on Ctorj and the day in general? Can Molly come out and play?
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[Sentran]

LIES!!!

[Ctorj]

It was 1:30am my time when I posted. Sorry for forgetting my name. Yes I am Peter Petrelli. I didn't know there were 2 of them. I don't know much about the show, sad to say, though I enjoyed Season 1.

[Ctorj]

[Ctorj]

Forgive the triple post.

The only thing I could think of is that you claimed your ability in order to get scum to target you because you knew you would be protected by a doctor? If that was your thinking, it is brilliant. Otherwise, I don't know why you chose to role-block me.

ok, I really have to get back to work now.
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[Zag]

[Sentran]

Ctorj, you claim that the order of priority given by Amb would allow a night kill to transfer the powers of the target and have them be active in the same phase? I don't buy it. I also don't buy your claim as, well, me. There were plenty of characters to choose from, and even with time travelling included, I don't believe that Amb would duplicate a character. Also, even if you WERE Peter as well, the only reason not to refute my claim would be if you were the mafia Peter. Either way, I think you should hang.

Zag, I am not confirming or denying that RD went anywhere on night 2, I am stating that because I believe that Ctorj's powers would not have been operational on night 2, he could not have tracked RD on night 2. His claims of the track are the lie, not the results.

Ctorj is trying to muddy the waters. Lynch him to prove me right or wrong.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Lucresia]

[Zag]

[Undercover Monk]

Rubberduck did a good analysis of season 3 options. Luke Campbells presence pretty much gurantees season 3 theme.

It is possible that we have two peters but I just don't believe it. lets see if we can can stay alive. Vote: Ctorj

BTW I was asked to join a mason group last night. I turned it down because I dont want to join a possible cult.
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Amb]

Vote Count
Ctorj: Lucresia, Sentran, Zag, Undercover Monk
Sentran: Cloudrunner

Thats 4 votes. That's enough.

Ctorj is led to the gallows. And on his death, a check of his house shows his power was invisibility.

Ctorj, Claude Rains, Swiss Army Mafiaete was lynched. He could track, one shot self protect, Roleblock or Kill

There are 5 alive, lets see what dawn brings.

[Amb]

Still none dead? None? All five were alive. And it was 3 to lynch. Game is on.

[Lucresia]

vote: rubberduck -y "you're the one!"

Ctorj added you to his fake list of results, perhaps he was thinking we would believe him and it would clear you since you must not have a night action. I think you're probably the last mafia.[/b]
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[Lucresia]

[Sentran]

Yup, he's at the top of my list too.
Vote: Rubberduck
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[RubberDuck]

[RubberDuck]

And just for the record it is 11:24pm in Nz, so amb likely won't read my PM until the following morning, the majority of the posting occurs during this same 7 gap, presumably because you are all on the otherside of the planet. So if Lucresia's vote doesn't change, it's because Amb is currently asleep, the only other way would be if Lucresia has an immunity to being manipulated.

Also before anyone accuses me of lying about my ability, I did it to Sentran on day 1, who I thought was behaving teamy towards MNO, but mostly because it was fun to throw the cat amongst the pidgeons.

[RubberDuck]

And the point of above post, was just to ask everyone to bear with Me & Amb for the next few hours, until Lucresia and I are both L-1

I don't want to get screwed because of differing timezones.

[Lucresia]

I don't get it..wasn't Eden a criminal and ended up working for the company? I believe your claim because it explains why the vote changed...but I am trying to understand at what point she would be considered town. :/
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[RubberDuck]

The Haitian roleblocker also worked for the company, yet was town.

Claude Raines escaped from the company after they betrayed him and went into hiding in the show, yet in this game he was scum.

In the show Eden was abandoned as a child and became a hooker of sorts, Noah bennet rescued her from this life, then used this to blackmail Eden to do things for the company. Eden was morally against using her voice for evil and operated indepentantly from the company when she tried to force Sylar to commit suicide, Sylar used his telekinesis to pull her through the glass window, then she commited suicied to prevent him from taking her power.

Alignments seem to be random in this game and change frequently in the show, remember also, that in season 1 molly walker was the "walker system" used for tracking and bagging heroes by the company.

[Zag]

[Sentran]

[Sentran]

Lucresia, it's time to start dodging the question. Who are you in this game?
Just to play safe, Unvote
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Sentran]

Correction, time to STOP dodging the question.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[RubberDuck]

A mason cult is usually a mason group with some sort of secret agenda
A heroes example of this would be, you can join the masons, but you have to sacrifce your powers to do it. You could say a mason cult is the group of people that have taken the vaccine for removing mutant abilites from season 3 of the show.

[RubberDuck]

Cults often have multiple win conditions, in a previous game, I was a both a mason cult leader & serial killer. I had the choice to either recruit or kill. My followers were an unaware of my Sk role, but would win with me if I killed everyone that wasn't a member.

[Amb]

Zag walked to his, or should I say her, letterbox and opened it. There was an envelope with a request to meet in a dark alley. He did so, and out stepped Lucresia, master of the masons, Bob Bishop. Sentran, Peter Petrelli was there as well. And the lure of the gold was enough for the vigilante. He joined the masons immediately. And with 3 votes of the 5, that was more than enough to send either Undercover Monk or Rubberduck to the gallows.

Wait, screamed the duck, watch this: Hey UM, you ten year old girl, come here. UM, being a not so street smart child wandered over - perhaps expecting candy. You will Vote Lucresia. At this point UM was less sure about Rubberduck, and backed off. Rubberduck wasn't too worried. Objections to vote control never worked anyway.

But why was Sentran the Roleblocker smiling?

And why was Lucresia smiling more?

Rubberducks voting power was roleblocked.
Lucresia, grinning ear to ear, knew her side had won. After a minimum of fuss, Rubberduck was lynched, followed by Undercover Monk. Her masons proudly aware that the scum were dead.

But this town was lucresia's. With no more threats to her life, she quickly disposed of Sentran, simply with a cudgel she had aside for that day.

While Zag took it all in: His leader lynched a woman, then a child, then cudgeled his new Mason friend Sentran. He knew it too late.

Lucresia, Cultist wins.

[Amb]

Summary and Thoughts
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Firstly the mafia was only 2 strong. I had intended a third, but when the game was about to start, I was one player short. I adjusted the mafia to have more night protection than previously and went to two roles. It turned out I had miscounted and there was space for a third after all. I kinda wish I had had a 3rd.

There are abilities that had Sylar gained he would have been hard to stop. Rubber ducks vote ability, UMs namefinding and Zags day kill would have been very powerful as he would have gained day abilities. Otherwise Sylar was restricted to 1 choice per night.

Sylar couldnt gain the powers of an ordinary human. In the original game design there were two, but I only remember the one I used now. (Noah, Lynch escaper)

If Sentran had become a recruiter, he would have been town and not cult. Sentran could gain the ability from any player he was following. He became a roleblocker after taking the ability from MNOWAX.

Quailman repeatedly sent night choices. It made me wonder what Role I had sent him. Im sure it was his way of telling for off for having vanilla roles.

The mafia and the SK both hit Lucresia twice in a row. THe first attack was thwarted by being night immune once (to cloudrunner) as Ctorj was roleblocked. The second attack saw Ctorj roleblocked again.

Zags first kill failed because Sentran had roleblocked him. Blocking at night carried onto the next day. (THis also prevented Rubberduck saving the town today, which he could have if he forced one of the Masons to vote their leader throwing the balance (or similar))

UM was able to search for any role but Sylar. Rubberducks odd behaviour blatantly lying about his ability, suggesting other roles, and what have you may have caused UM to waste an ability looking for the puppetmaster. His role was intended as a way of verifying claims.

The safe claim of Claire Bennet was ignored by the mafia. UM would have seen through it anyway.

Lucresia kept recruiting those that died. Eg she recruited Quailman, but Zag vigged him. Turned out that was a good thing for the town, but still didnt swing the game.

This game had me guessing a lot. Any group could have swung this game.

[Undercover Monk]

dang even though I lost Im glad I didnt join a stinking cult you bunch of level 6 laser lotus'
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Lifeinmomland]

That is a new one to me. I was questioning the RD vote but I guess I asked to little and to late. With my vote being my own though I do wonder at the assumptions made at the end. Oh well
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[Zag]

Good game. Thanks, Amb! Grats, Lucresia!

I joined the "masons" mostly because Ctorj (who I already knew was scum) had said he didn't, and UM (whom I suspected) also said that he didn't. And partly because I was vanilla by then, having used up my one-shot ability, so I wanted something interesting.

[Lucresia]

Thank you Amb, and everyone! I must say that was the most fun game of mafia I have played in a long time. Awesome role. And my dearest apologies to both Sentran and LIML who I have basically had to lie to for the past few days. <3. On the other hand, had Zag not accepted, I was not sure I could convince them that I was not a cult leader because I was thinking I had lost some credibility. I could have possibly done it but it would have been really hard. If I hadn't one, I would have handed the town a win lol. But I think I would have been rooting for them if I couldn't have one.

Also, I've had the "Goddess of Darkness"title since I was16. I think this game calls for a change. Can I have a new title? I was thinking "Cultist Mujer Extraordinaire"
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[Jedo the Jedi]

I would say good game, but it was actually total shit.

Lucresia, you played well. Whoever killed me overnight was a punk, but it wouldn't have mattered anyway because some dinkbat blocked me and I wouldn't have discovered what you did. That said, you were a top suspect at the end of day 2.

I kept hounding on Sentran day 2 despite thinking him null rather than scum because I thought it might cause the baddies to leave me alive knowing I was barking up the wrong tree. So much for that.

I PMed Amb saying I suspected cR, but this was right after he was killed. It may not seem legitimate, but after considering who might be scum, I realized he was just that right level of low-key and not really helpful to be scum. Bah!

Crazy mechanics, Amb. Thanks for hosting and getting me hooked on the show.
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Paragon Tally: 19 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Lifeinmomland]

Amb it was a good game. Jedo is just a sore loser. My favorite part might have been when UM was proved wrong and I was RIGHT!!!!
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Who is John Gult?

[Quailman]

I still can't believe Snik wasn't scum.

[Zag]

[Amb]

If Sentran hadnt blocked RD this turn, then town still might yet have won.

Im glad LIML kept playing, as I was prepared to hand her vote over to Luc to control if she left. Luckily I never needed to consider it.

[MNOWAX]

GG you guys, my neck doesn't feel too good after day one, but eh what can you do?

Nice mechanics, as usual Amb. Thanks for modding!
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[RubberDuck]

I'm going to interpret this as me single handedly keeping this game alive and interesting

Epically good game people.

My day 1 play style is exactly what it is.

UM and I were singled out for the vote switching, UM argued about it, which took the focus off me. I had many laughs to the initial reaction and continued arguments. Just the thought of knowing what I had done and how I was obviously picked as one responsible for it. Who knew it would screw UM' role over.

I figured out Quailman wasn't scum when we both hammered Sniklac16 for the Silverfire incident, this is why I did not vote him on that day. I don't know Quails reason for not voting me back, but im certain he never had a good one.

I thought Zag was the SK for quite a while.

I missed an entire game day, day dawned, argued, lynched in 8 hours straight while I was asleep, I got up in the morning Nz time and found the game was night mode again.

The odds are had Zag not thrown the game away by joining an obvious cult, everyone would have sided with Lucresia on the vote anyway, It is hard to say however. I was hanging out for Cloud Runner or LIML to take my side and nail Lucresia.

Lucresia, where did you get that name from? Everytime I read it, I get a mental picture of Lucresia from FFVII?

Ctorj - haha, you used the 2nd peter petrelli claim from my post, hahaha, too bad, If you had been told by the mafia GF that Claire Bennet was a safe claim things may have been different.

[Lucresia]

When ctorj used RD as an example in his tracking it was very easy to convince Sentran to block RD, because he agreed with me on it. It was amazing the whole way it panned out because if Sentran never targeted MNO while he got killed, this whole game would have been wayyyy different.
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