True Blood Mafia GAME OVER

[Sentran]

Only one death is at least a step in the right direction.
Vote: Undercover Monk
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[raekuul]

Sentran, if you want a bandwagon, please give some reasoning. If you've already given reasoning, please give it again to refresh our memory.

[Zag]

Sorry to see you go, Jedo. I can't say, though, that I'm surprised. There was no way that they could afford to let you give more reports which would eventually be confirmed.

I'd love to chat with you when the game is over why you felt it was worthwhile to out yourself on day 2. While I appreciate it, it was a bad trade for the town -- if I had been forced to reveal, it wouldn't have cost us nearly as much.

Does anyone have any clues? Here's what we have so far for claims:

Zag: Claims a "goofy and useless" night ability and a one-shot death immunity (now used up).

Silverfire: claims vig and apologizes for killing Quailman. Seems unlikely that anyone would claim that falsely, except maybe a serial killer. I'm inclined to believe, ATM.

Durryn: Claims Jason Stackhouse, tracker, and identified Sentran visiting Zag on night 1, and Quailman visiting Sentran on night 2. Quailman was a little too dead to confirm, but Sentran confirms visiting Zag on night 1.

Sentran: Claims some ability that he did to me on the first night.

Spyrl: Hasn't claimed, but Quailman claimed that she was his protect target on night one and that's why there was no night kill.

I think that's all the claims; jump in if I've missed any. I'll update the voting report later.

[Durryn]

I believe Itisally is Town. She didn't go anywhere last night.

I am still very suspicious of Sentran...... but I have no clue where to hunt next.
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[Sentran]

I knew I'd have to claim soon, and I'm honestly surprised I've lived this long. I can thank Jedo's claim for directing mafia attention away from me. Now, I feel that a claim will shed some light on the game thus far (from my perspective) and help the town form some opinions.

I am Sam Merlotte, town roleblocker.

Night 1 I blocked Zag. No kills that night, leading me to believe that Zag COULD be scum. Jedo's claim of cop has proven truthful, so he would have no reason to lie that Zag came up as town to him. That leaves a few possibilities: that Zag is indeed town, that Jedo's investigation ability was faulty, or that Sniklac determined that roleblocking the GF would prevent the night kill instead of removing his investigation protection. I believe the first option to be the most likely, which is why Zag is lower on my scumdar at present.

Night 2 I blocked Ctorj. He appeared scummy to me at the time.

Night 3 I blocked UM, and there was one less night kill. I find it quite possible that he could be either scum or an SK, so I'm voting him.

Let's hope this sheds some light on my lack of informational posts and odd voting habits. Go town!
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Zag]

I'm not sure that is completely reliable, Durryn -- if there are still two scum left, then you might just have picked the wrong one. (With 14 people initially, it seems that the scum population could have started at either 3 or 4.) However, I'll agree that, according to Bayes' Theorum, that definitely reduces the odds that she is scum.

[Durryn]

Again I said "I believe" not that it was a certainty.

For now I will follow Sentrans lead.

Vote; UndercoverMonk
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[Lucresia]

I have to apologize for my lack of posting; I completely forgot about this game till I got a message on Facebook from Snik. I have a lot to say because I did a re-read during the night time. I am really surprised that Quailman was Doc, his behavior really made me think he was scum. I found it hilarious and lucky that we had mafia screw up so major on a fake claim yesterday. I will post more most likely tomorrow with my current thoughts on the situation. Today is my birthday and I have a Volleyball game to go to in a little bit.

[pedit]: just saw sentran made a town roleblocker claim. I am 50/50 on believing this and it leads me to a lot of leads based on my own role. Please no rush lynches, I have a lot to say but cant finish this post till later tonight or tomorrow afternoon.
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[Undercover Monk]

Well I didnt kill anyone. At this point I can clear two so Im claiming Im a mason with Spyrl. I dont believe we would have a roleblocker and doc and cop and masons and tracker.

my guess is Sentran is the SK and didn't kill to frame me. Spyrl can confirm but we avent used our night talk ability at all. Mason to me has always been pretty useless as a town role
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1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Sentran]

[Silverfire]

[Zag]

While Sentran's story seems on the surface to have a little merit, I find is suspicious that he's just ignoring Silverfire's claim of vig. The scum got their kill in, obviously (though it would be awesome for a vig to be able to claim offing both doc and cop in the same game ). So why would Sentran try to say that blocking UM somehow stopped a kill? More likely Silverfire, without any good idea, just chose not to kill. In any case, she's the one to look at concerning a second kill (or lack thereof), not UM.

Sentran's story doesn't hold water. Now, he's going to say -- what? -- that he didn't notice Silverfire's claim, nor my reporting of it? Or that he didn't work out what it meant?

FOS: Sentran

[Zag]

Ooh. Nice simulpost.

[Sentran]

Actually Zag, neither of those. I had forgotten about Silver's Vig claim, and I was posting from what info I had come up with at night. Feel free to accuse me of not paying complete attention, I'll even confirm that one. I've been really busy at work, swimming with the family most nights at home, and spending very little time invested in this game (that appears to have nights that are longer than the days anyway).

My reasons for targeting Quailman in the first place was due to who he was (or was not) voting for at the end of each day. Claim WIFOM all you want, but that's the simple theory I went with. Now that I add the Vig into the equation, his voting practices do not change, just the possibility of what dangers the town still faces.

I've been honest with my claim, but the only way I have to prove it would be to quote my entire PM and get myself Mod-struck, which would be about as helpful to the town as getting myself lynched. Lynch me if you like, I won't lose sleep over it. It just won't help the town win.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Silverfire]

Yeah, I didn't kill last night.

[Lucresia]

Okay back from volleyball, but here are my thoughts.

Zag = mafia godfather??
Silverfire = Vig
UM =Mason
Spyrl = Mason
Sentran = Roleblocker
Durryn = Uknown but quick to follow someone without an explanation which seems scummy to me
Raekuul ==some sort of target ability which I don't quite understand how it is benefitting the town in any way
itisally = unknown??
Lucresia = I haven't claimed but will after I ask a few more questions I need answered.

[MAJOR predit]

Okay I really need to pay better attention to these things. I went back to read some of Jedo's posts and see that Durryn has claimed a tracker/ watcher role. Scratch everything I said about claiming, I will claim my role now. My role is a reporter role and I am able to visit one person each night and I will be told whether they were home or not. I have no idea why this is considered a reporter, but that's what I am.

Night 1: I chose Quailman --not home
Night 2: I forgot about the game and didn't submit a choice...sorry town, I really let you down there.
Night 3: I am not revealing yet till some of the questions I have are answered.

1.) Zag, what is your "goofy and useless" (as you have stated) night ability?

2.) Raekuul, you claim in a post that you MADE Jedo target you. Please explain the purpose of how your role benefits the town. Targetting what was a cop claim so we got no information.

3.) Durryn, what is your character name?

I haven't voted yet for Durryn because there is one flaw in my logic. Perhaps there really is two watcher/tracker type roles in this game.

Sentran, said that he did block Zag on night 1. Durryn claimed previously that he had followed Sentran to Zag's house. So this may confirm that both are innocent. Also durryn does claim that he can actually follow the person, whereas mine seems more useless, because I'm just able to see if someone performed a night action (left house or not). If this is true, then maybe the mod did similiar to me in v mafia, where almost every character had some sort of ability.

The other option is that Sentran and Durryn are both scum and coordinated their posts.

Thoughts?
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[Durryn]

Lucresia, See posts 364 and 319 (Below in reverse order)

[raekuul]

Lucresia: My role is that of Alcide Herveaux, a redirector. I can make any person target any other person. I gain no information out of this other than the knowledge that the person now targeted the person I selected.

[Lucresia]

Okay. Well I can see the motive of having a cop target you to be cleared, so now I'm back at square one. Well I still think I am most suspicious of Zag, so I will wait to hear back on my question. Also Durryn has a different name than me, so I do believe him at this point.
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[Sentran]

That's an interesting ability and role claim, raekuul. I find it less plausible than, say, half a dozen other characters that are more likely to have been used. Then again, I haven't seen season 3 or 4 yet.

A bit of wiki research shows me that Alcide was in seasons 3 and 4 of the series, and since we know that Franklin Mott (also from season 3) was in the game, it stands to reason that Alcide could as well.

I can even see the logic in forcing the cop to target you (to prove yourself innocent). Too bad that same cop was gacked by the mafia that night. Raekuul, have you used your ability on anyone else this game?

Unvote, there is too much to wade through at present.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[raekuul]

Night 1, I had MNOWAX target Zag, and Night 2 I had Jedo target me. Night 3 I had Jedo target Zag, but since Jedo died...

[raekuul]

vote: Zag

[Zag]

Durryn sure seems ready to jump on any accusation. Trying to get on bandwagons early? And then raekuul says a bunch of stuff that doesn't seem the least bit damning, then votes me. WTF?

Fine, I'll claim. You'll see why I wished Jedo had not outed himself to clear me.

I am Andy Bellefleur, and my role is "Not a very good cop."

I am supposed to send in a name each night to Snik, and he will give me a random result, that has no bearing on the actual alignment of the person investigated. Seriously, that's what it says! It then says that I have another ability, called "dumb luck" a one-time immunity to being killed. I assume that is compensation for having a useless ability.

I have a secret hope that there might be some event in which I turn into a real cop, something like if I investigate the right person, or maybe now that the real cop is killed. I doubt it, though, because of the dumb luck ability.

[raekuul]

Night 1, you were targeted by a roleblocker; we had zero deaths that night. It seems quite fishy to me

[Sentran]

Since we're already well on our way there, I think I'd like to see a mass claim now. There's no way it can hurt the town, since all the power roles (I think) have already claimed.

Zag: Andy Bellefleur, Not a Very Good Cop
itisally: _____, _____
Sentran: Sam Merlotte, Town Roleblocker
Undercover Monk: _____, Mason
Durryn: Jason Stackhouse, Tracker
Lucresia: _____, Reporter
Silverfire: _____, Vigilante
Spyrl: _____, Mason
raekuul: Alcide Herveaux, Redirector

I am leaning towards believing UM's claim for himself and Spyrl, because I think I've worked out which characters they are. That leaves 3 others who have not claimed a name, and itisally is the only one who has not claimed a role. Vote: Itisally

Also high on my suspect list is Lucresia. Refer to post 376 in which she claims her role, then in the same post asks for Durryn's character name (without revealing her own). FOS: Lucresia

And, finally, Silverfire. I find her claim of Vig to be more believable than not, but she is far from absolved of suspicion.

Of those who have claimed that are still on my suspect list, Zag is at the top followed by raekuul.
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[Zag]

[Sentran]

All good, strong, logical points Zag. Raekuul has moved back up to #2 on my list, and he will become #1 if ally makes a reasonable claim.
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[Durryn]

I don't see how I have jumped on any accusation. I was back to my primary suspect, Zag.

Sentrans claim is too strong to keep him suspect.
Itisally didn't go anywhere, though I guess she could be the GF and not have to.
Zag now has a very good claim
UM and Spyrl claim Masons, Could be a clever ruse for Mafia
Lucresia and Raekull are Season 3&4 people and I was under the impression we were sticking to seasons 1 and 2 (Franklin Mott (scum)not withstanding)
Silver the nameless vigilante......

I am sooo lost here.

unvote
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[spyrl]

I am Tara Thornton, Mason and my fellow mason is Undercover Monk. We have no special abilities other than talking at night, and knowing that at least the two of us are town.

Although I do have to say that claiming the reporting and redirecting roles doesn't necessarily mean that we can automatically assume that they are town. I also want to add (with a grain of salt):

[Sentran]

Spyrl's points have clinched it for me, even w/o ally's claim.

Unvote, Vote: raekuul
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"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[itisally]

I wish I had something helpful to add in the claim department, but here it goes. I am Hoyt Fortenberry, and I haven't claimed a role because I got nothing. I guess thats why I haven't felt like I have as much to contribute. (Much like the Hoyt/Jessica story arch, hehe)

I find Raekuul's claim awkward. At first glance it seems as though none of his actions can be confirmed or denied. Spyrl's points are compeling, and I didn't see anything to help Raekuul on a reread.

I also have an eye on Lucresia, but it may just be that she forgot about the game I want to look at the night actions more closely too. Did she forget, or is that an excuse for lurking to stay off of the town's radar.

I have been dragging my feet about voting all game, so I am going to go ahead and vote:Raekuul
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[Undercover Monk]

I am Lafayette Reynolds. never watched the show and too lazy to look it up online so no idea who he is.

anyway the arguments against raekuul are sound and when he is quiet he seems to be mafia more times the not. so Vote: raekuul
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Sentran]

[Sniklac16]

[Sentran]

Trying to keep the claims organized...

Zag: Andy Bellefleur, Not a Very Good Cop
itisally: Hoyt Fortenberry, Vanilla Townie?
Sentran: Sam Merlotte, Town Roleblocker
Undercover Monk: Lafayette Reynolds, Mason
Durryn: Jason Stackhouse, Tracker
Lucresia: _____, Reporter
Silverfire: _____, Vigilante
Spyrl: Tara Thornton, Mason
raekuul: Alcide Herveaux, Redirector

Itisally is still #2 on my suspect list. Hoyt seems like a reasonable character to use for a safe claim, and she's the ONLY player to claim vanilla townie.
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Sentran
"Speaking of double negatives, I haven't read greylab yet today." - Lifeinmomland

[raekuul]

If you want to believe me, then you can believe me. If you choose not to believe me, then you can not believe me. Either way, we're all going to have to face the consequences.

I cannot help the fact that my claims are unbelievable. Either believe me or don't.

Also, unvote in light of the town roleblocker allegedly blocking Zag N1.

[Silverfire]

While I agree that claiming vanilla townie is often a mafia tactic, remember that we have had one vanilla townie die already (Ctorj). It seems a little unlikely that the mod would put exactly one vanilla townie in the game.

Since everyone but Lucresia has given a name, I will do so. I am Bill Compton, vigilante.

I think raekuul is very likely scum, but I want to hold off on the hammer until Lucresia claims her name. She's also rather suspicious in my eyes, only because she's holding her role name and last choice back (but then again, I didn't give my name when I claimed, and her reasoning seems consistent with a townie alignment).

[Durryn]

And here is the HAMMER!!!!


Vote: Raekuul

I have wanted to do this since I first read a game!!!
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[Sniklac16]

Night was settling in in the small town of Bon Temps.The citizens knew they had to make a move and quick. They went after who they thought was easy pickings. Turns out after they made the kill they had chosen wrong.

raekuul - alcide herveaux redirector lynched day 4

It is now night and once again deadline for night choices are due in 72 hours.
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[Sniklac16]

Town woke up after what seemed an endless night. It seems no one can sleep for fear of their lives being stolen away. Day finally arrived, and everything seemed to be ok. That is until a leg was seen sticking out of the bottom of a car door. Upon closer inspection, they found yet another town friend dead

undercover monk tara thornton mason killed night 4

It is now day and with 7 alive it'll take just 4 to lynch
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