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Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot
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 Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:16 pm Post subject: 81 |
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| extro...* wrote: |
| To make it self-evident, it would be something like: "If I'm a living thing observing a universe, then that universe allows for living things". |
Clearly not self-evident, since it isn't even necessarily true.
Hint: substitute "lava pool" for universe and you'll see why. (You haven't proven that you have to be inside a universe to observe it.) |
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extropalopakettle
No offense, but....
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| Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 5:53 pm Post subject: 82 |
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| Zag wrote: |
| extro...* wrote: |
| To make it self-evident, it would be something like: "If I'm a living thing observing a universe, then that universe allows for living things". |
Clearly not self-evident, since it isn't even necessarily true.
Hint: substitute "lava pool" for universe and you'll see why. (You haven't proven that you have to be inside a universe to observe it.) |
The thought did cross my mind, at the time of writing, to fill in a few of the blanks, like that "universe" means that which contains everything (unlike the lava pool, which I'd presumably observe from outside).
And Thok is correct - the observer need not be living. |
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