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Gomez*
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:36 pm Post subject: 441 |
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| Not much to add except that the picture of the pipe is not from Magritte's famous 'Treachery of Images' but rrom his lesser known Two Mysteries. You can tellby the background. Also Two Mysteries features a shrunken version of Treachery of Images, which would fit with the 'Puzzle in A Puzzle' theme. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:53 pm Post subject: 442 |
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Even cooler...a jigsaw puzzle within a jigsaw puzzle that reveals a painting within a painting. _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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LordKinbote
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:15 pm Post subject: 443 |
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Adding more words that aren't getting me anywhere. I'm assuming I'll need to find a 7th group of 7.
Seven Liberal Arts - RHETORIC, GRAMMAR, ASTRONOMY, MATHEMATICS, LOGIC, MUSIC, GEOMETRY
Seven Sacraments - MATRIMONY, PENANCE, CONFIRMATION, HOLY ORDERS, BAPTISM, ANOINTING OF THE SICK, HOLY EUCHARIST
Seven Continents - ANTARCTICA, AFRICA, AUSTRALIA, EUROPE, NORTH AMERICA, ASIA, SOUTH AMERICA
Seven SI base units - KELVIN, KILOGRAM, SECOND, METRE, AMPERE, CANDELA, MOLE
Group of Seven (artists) - JOHNSTON, CARMICHAEL, JACKSON, HARRIS, LISMER, VARLEY, MACDONALD
Seven Christopher Nolan films - FOLLOWING, MEMENTO, BATMAN BEGINS, THE PRESTIGE, THE DARK KNIGHT, INSOMNIA, INCEPTION
ARKHAM
HEAT
DOCTOR
CAMUS/SUMAC
LEGO
ARMY
APOLLO
ENGINEER
ANNUL
SPARKS
TEAL
SEAS (goes with 7, at least)
YEAH
MIDNIGHT
DOC (from the 7 Dwarves?)
SWIFT
HAWKS
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The group of seven you're missing was actually one of the few content contributions I made as an editor of this puzzle (he was looking for groups of seven that weren't the normal "groups of seven" that you always see in puzzles). |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:05 pm Post subject: 444 |
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How many of the words I have listed are in your group of 7? Or is that cheating... _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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LordKinbote
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:07 pm Post subject: 445 |
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| Suspence wrote: |
| How many of the words I have listed are in your group of 7? Or is that cheating... |
Probably cheating, but I will say that ARKHAM is a hilarious unintended word, what with the other legitimate Batman references. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:21 pm Post subject: 446 |
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Hmm..a search on MIDNIGHT APOLLO ENGINEER led me here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnighter
And MIDNIGHT in the word search actually continues to be MIDNIGHTER...
And now here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Authority
The Doctor, Swift, Apollo, Jenny Sparks, The Midnighter, The Engineer, and Jack Hawksmoor _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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L'lanmal
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:40 pm Post subject: 447 |
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| I rather liked this puzzle too. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:01 pm Post subject: 448 |
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That leaves 121 left-over letters, which should fit an 11x11 grid. I already see MEXICO in the unused letters.
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higgnaychly
uanpleasanw
snewmexicoa
tuthainglrs
ittrgtilifs
satoemezqie
dhmtnyorurk
iirstnmeiec
lsinaecedsa
odarolocsal
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Looks like groups of four:
SOLID, LIQUID, GAS, PLASMA
BLACK, CYAN, YELLOW, MAGENTA
WATER, FIRE, EARTH, AIR
NEWMEXICO, ARIZONA, COLORADO, UTAH _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
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gftt*
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:17 pm Post subject: 449 |
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| Suspence wrote: |
That leaves 121 left-over letters, which should fit an 11x11 grid. I already see MEXICO in the unused letters.
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higgnaychly
uanpleasanw
swewmexicoa
tuthainglrs
ittrgtilifs
satoemezqie
dhmtnyorurk
iirstnmeiec
lsinaecedsa
odarolocsal
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Looks like groups of four:
SOLID, LIQUID, GAS, PLASMA
BLACK, CYAN, YELLOW,
MEXICO,
WATER, FIRE |
I'm guessing you have a mistake in the grid, since UTAH ARIZONA and COLORADO are there. NEW MEXICO not WEW MEXICO...
MAGENTA completes the colors line, and EARTH and AIR the other line. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: 450 |
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h i g h l y
u n p l e a s a n t
t h i n g s
i t
i s
s o m e t i m e s
n e c e s s a r y
t o
k n o w
Which is a fictional guidebook in John Barnes's novel, One for the Morning Glory
A: Scream 3
B: Slaughterhouse 5
C: Grand Theft Auto 4
D: The Two Mysteries
E: One for the Morning Glory
7, 8 - TH
14 - E
1 - S
14, 12 - OU
7, 6 - TH
Call in THE SOUTH _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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LordKinbote
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:03 am Post subject: 451 |
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THE SOUTH is correct.
Which I guess leaves this last puzzle in the Okla-Holmes-a round:
Zugzwaang by Paul Jeray |
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Suspence
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 3:00 am Post subject: 452 |
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I have to say that was one of the best puzzles I've ever worked on.
I also have to say I'm out on the current one. I have no idea what is even going on. _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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jesternl
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Posted: Wed Feb 29, 2012 4:34 pm Post subject: 453 |
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| Just for reference.. 'zugzwang' is the notion that a player in chess, or another game, is forced to make a move while (s)he would prefer not to, since it makes the position weaker. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:42 pm Post subject: 454 |
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Is anybody working on this one? I'm still totally lost with nowhere to start. _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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jesternl
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:21 pm Post subject: 455 |
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| I've been lost since the very beginning... |
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gftt*
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:09 pm Post subject: 456 |
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I peeked at the answer to this one a month ago. Sorry.
One hint, maybe: catalog all the ways in which these do not look like your average chess problem. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:17 pm Post subject: 457 |
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I do not know how to solve even a basic chess problem, so that rules me out.
I do know the game is not typically played with coins, but that's about all I've got.  _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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Scurra
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:46 pm Post subject: 458 |
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I spent some time this afternoon searching, and I think that these puzzles are for the game of Arimaa*, which is played between Gold and Silver and can use chess pieces to represent its own specific pieces.
As I knew nothing about this game until about five minutes ago, I am not sure I want to try and figure out what exactly is going on...
*the title would seem to suggest this too. _________________
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Suspence
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:09 pm Post subject: 459 |
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I'm ready to move on...anyone else? _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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gftt*
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:27 pm Post subject: 460 |
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You've done the hard part already!
On the Betsy Johnson meta, the 100 words in each bit of correspondence suggest placing the words found into a 10x10 grid, or something like that.
Other than the 9/10 rhymes found, there are: Column (cocoon), memory (medley), jay (joy), learned (leader), backroom (bookworm).
Letter 1:
backroom = word 28
memory = word 36
immune = word 78
Letter 2:
feeder = word 8
unmatched = word 21
learned = word 73
Letter 3:
column = word 9
tell = word 25
jay = word 36
boys = word 81
Letter 4:
splicing = word 8
hookworm = word 16
Letter 5:
deadly = word 61
deploy = word 71
Letter 3: all squares. But Dudes (word 1), Know (word 4), appealing (word 16), and it (word 100) [those are the easy ones to find] don't really have many letters in common with the puzzle answers. We are missing one answer word, granted. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 12:40 am Post subject: 461 |
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Are you indicating that we find words of the same length that have the same first and last letter?
If so LEADER, would go with LINEAR, word 4 of paragraph 4. Not sure what the connection with LEARNED is, except for an anagram + 1. Are there more of those? _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:45 am Post subject: 462 |
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Betsy Johnson Meta-Puzzle
SOLUTIONS
Joy
Bookworm
Hell
Leader
Enticing
Medley
Attached
Cocoon
Poise
RHYMES - Letter - Word #
Immune 1 - 78
Feeder 2 - 8
Unmatched 2 - 21
Tell 3 - 25
Boys 3 - 81
Splicing 4 - 8
Hookworm 4 - 16
Deadly 5 - 61
Deploy 5 - 71
SAME START/END/LENGTH - Letter - Word #
backroom 1 - 28
Memory 1 - 36
edifying 2 - 34
column 3 - 9
Jay 3 - 36
Hail 4 - 1
linear 4 - 4
asteroid 5 - 47
peace 5 - 59
ABOVE WORDS ORGANIZED BY LETTER - Letter - Word #
backroom 1 - 28
Memory 1 - 36
Immune 1 - 78
Feeder 2 - 8
Unmatched 2 - 21
edifying 2 - 34
column 3 - 9
Tell 3 - 25
Jay 3 - 36
Boys 3 - 81
Hail 4 - 1
linear 4 - 4
Splicing 4 - 8
Hookworm 4 - 16
asteroid 5 - 47
peace 5 - 59
Deadly 5 - 61
Deploy 5 - 71
Letter 1 seems to be triangle numbers. Letter 2 looks to be Fibonacci numbers. Letter 3 is squares. Letter 5 is all primes. _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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gftt*
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:26 am Post subject: 463 |
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| Suspence wrote: |
Are you indicating that we find words of the same length that have the same first and last letter?
If so LEADER, would go with LINEAR, word 4 of paragraph 4. Not sure what the connection with LEARNED is, except for an anagram + 1. Are there more of those? |
That wasn't explicitly what I was thinking, just that there were some letter coincidences. But that seems pretty good. And yeah, anagram + 1. But I didn't see any more of those. It just popped out, being in italics and all... |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:56 am Post subject: 464 |
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Looks like synonyms is another path.
1-21 is STUCK, for ATTACHED
1-45 is HEAD, for LEADER
2-5 is BIBLIOPHILE, for BOOKWORM
2-13 is BEARING, for POISE
3-16 is APPEALING, for ENTICING
3-64 is ASSORTMENT, for MEDLEY
4-64 is DELIGHT, for JOY
5-43 is INFERNO, for HELL
5-53 is ENVELOP, for COCOON
Summarizing again:
stuck, 1 - 21, Attached
backroom, 1 - 28, Bookworm
memory, 1 - 36, Medley
head, 1 - 45, Leader
Immune, 1 - 78, Cocoon
bibliophile, 2 - 5, Bookworm
feeder, 2 - 8, Leader
bearing, 2 - 13, Poise
unmatched, 2 - 21, Attached
edifying, 2 - 34, Enticing
column, 3 - 9, Cocoon
appealing, 3 - 16, Enticing
tell, 3 - 25, Hell
jay, 3 - 36, Joy
assortment, 3 - 64, Medley
boys, 3 - 81, Poise
hail, 4 - 1, Hell
linear, 4 - 4, Leader
splicing, 4 - 8, Enticing
hookworm, 4 - 16, Bookworm
delight, 4 - 64, Joy
inferno, 5 - 43, Hell
asteroid, 5 - 47, Attached
envelop, 5 - 53, Cocoon
peace, 5 - 59, Poise
deadly, 5 - 61, Medley
deploy, 5 - 71, Joy _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:56 am Post subject: 465 |
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I'm expecting the solution to come from each of the numbers in the series that aren't used for each letter. It's heading towards:
THROW GRAMMAR (or POLITENESS) OUT THE WINDOW.
Meaning the solution to Blinkenlights uses:
INSPECTORS / GUARDIANS / and either GRAMMAR or POLITENESS
EDIT:
PROTECTORS seems to work. Rhymes with INSPECTORS, synonym of GUARDIANS, matches first/last/length with POLITENESS.
So:
For Betsy Johnson, call in THROW GRAMMAR OUT THE WINDOW.
For Blinkenlights, call in PROTECTORS
Still ready to skip the current puzzle, though... _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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LordKinbote
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:27 am Post subject: 466 |
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| Suspence wrote: |
I'm expecting the solution to come from each of the numbers in the series that aren't used for each letter. It's heading towards:
THROW GRAMMAR (or POLITENESS) OUT THE WINDOW.
Meaning the solution to Blinkenlights uses:
INSPECTORS / GUARDIANS / and either GRAMMAR or POLITENESS
EDIT:
PROTECTORS seems to work. Rhymes with INSPECTORS, synonym of GUARDIANS, matches first/last/length with POLITENESS.
So:
For Betsy Johnson, call in THROW GRAMMAR OUT THE WINDOW.
For Blinkenlights, call in PROTECTORS
Still ready to skip the current puzzle, though... |
Correct and correct. |
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LordKinbote
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:31 am Post subject: 467 |
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Let's head over to Critic #2: Charles Lutwidge Dodgson.
Investigator's Report
This critic puzzle reuses the following answers:
ENUMERATE
OCTOPOD
VESTIGE
SO CLOSE
It also introduces 8 new puzzles, in no particular order.
Here's the first: Audio Games by Michael Constant |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:46 am Post subject: 468 |
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For Audio Games, all but one seems familiar, but I can only ID the easiest one. #7 is Super Mario Bros, sounds like Level 1-1.
Unfortunately, Shazam isn't helping me  _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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gftt*
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:40 pm Post subject: 469 |
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Can't help much with Audio Games - was never big into video games. I do find it extremely suspicious that the audio files are all 26 seconds long, however - does this mean that one is supposed to identify a major event in each gameplay audio selection and find which second it occurs in? Good luck if so.
On Zugzwaang, I'm quite sure I could have completed it given the Arimaa aha. Shall I go ahead and do so even though I saw the answer? |
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LordKinbote
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:05 pm Post subject: 470 |
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| gftt* wrote: |
Can't help much with Audio Games - was never big into video games. I do find it extremely suspicious that the audio files are all 26 seconds long, however - does this mean that one is supposed to identify a major event in each gameplay audio selection and find which second it occurs in? Good luck if so.
On Zugzwaang, I'm quite sure I could have completed it given the Arimaa aha. Shall I go ahead and do so even though I saw the answer? |
Nah, I decree that someone should either solve it legitimately, or that the Okla-Holmes-a meta should be solved without it (and remember, its answer is used later on in another critic meta). Not every puzzle needs to be forward solved (you guys just correctly backsolved Blinkenlights, for example). Every meta has been solved without all the answers, so don't be afraid to try stabbing at the metas whenever you want. |
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gftt*
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:40 pm Post subject: 471 |
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Fair enough. I'm stumped on the Okla-Holmes-a meta, though. 6/7 answers, each of length 6-8 letters, two that are two-word phrases. I got nothing.
Looking at the Dodgson meta, it is going to require pretty much all 12 answers to make progress, it seems like. Charles Lutwidge Dodgson is Lewis Carroll's real name, btw. (Haven't we already seen Carroll? I guess that puzzle's answer shows up here, appropriately enough.) |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:56 pm Post subject: 472 |
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Just to get the Okla-Holmes-A meta here for ease:
1. CARPAL
2. THE SOUTH
3. STERNO
4. BYLINE
5. SO CLOSE
6
7. VESTIGE
I''m assuming the numbering is important somehow. _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:01 pm Post subject: 473 |
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| gftt* wrote: |
Fair enough. I'm stumped on the Okla-Holmes-a meta, though. 6/7 answers, each of length 6-8 letters, two that are two-word phrases. I got nothing.
Looking at the Dodgson meta, it is going to require pretty much all 12 answers to make progress, it seems like. Charles Lutwidge Dodgson is Lewis Carroll's real name, btw. (Haven't we already seen Carroll? I guess that puzzle's answer shows up here, appropriately enough.) |
The person who wrote the Alice in Wonderland puzzle also wrote the Dodgson meta. It's not coincidence...Alice in Wonderland was one of the proposed themes at the beginning of the year, and the author came to the table with a bunch of puzzle ideas (Caterpillars was another wayward Wonderland idea). |
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LordKinbote
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:02 pm Post subject: 474 |
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| Suspence wrote: |
Just to get the Okla-Holmes-A meta here for ease:
1. CARPAL
2. THE SOUTH
3. STERNO
4. BYLINE
5. SO CLOSE
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7. VESTIGE
I''m assuming the numbering is important somehow. |
I don't think it's too much of a hint to say that the numbering is important only in that there isn't a "reorder" step like there was with the Circus Line meta. The answers are given in the correct order. |
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gftt*
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:03 pm Post subject: 475 |
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| I guess the other thing to think about would be how Oklahoma or Sherlock Holmes might lead to a meta (in the same way that circuses led to the Circus Line meta - 3 rings for 3 O's). I don't know the Holmes canon very well, though - is there a group of 7 objects somewhere in there? |
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:52 pm Post subject: 477 |
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| For the Oklaholmesa meta, Each answer can be broken down into periodic elements (C Ar P Al, for example). Not sure what to do with that, though. |
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Suspence
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:20 pm Post subject: 478 |
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Get the atomic numbers would be my first thought.
C Ar P Al
6 18 15 13
F R O M
Th Es O U Th
90 99 8 92 90
S Te Rn O
16 52 86 8
B Y Li Ne
5 39 3 10
S O Cl O Se
16 8 17 8 34
???
???
V Es Ti Ge
23 99 22 32
So CARPAL gives FROM. Doesn't seem like a coincidence. I'm not sure what to do with the rest. Trying mod26 with these doesn't get me anything intelligible. _________________ I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature. |
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:57 pm Post subject: 479 |
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At least I was sort of on the right track: "Elementary, my dear Watson."  |
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Scurra
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:27 am Post subject: 480 |
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Coming back to this after a break, I can now see what at least some of the trick is, although I can't quite make out the final answer.
I am impressed by the "aha" that spotted the elements though - I can't see anything that really points to it, although I grant you that "elementary, dear Watson" is a fine clue; it just seems a bit like hindsight in action.
Anyway, it's all in the numbers. There is one number in each set that doesn't really match with the others, and the first three spell out C - O - Rn - Y, which looks promising for an Oklahoma! reference.
Can anyone else fill in the rest? _________________
still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life.
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