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Mystery Hunt 2012 Recast: COMPLETE!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 1:17 pm    Post subject: 481 Reply with quote

It looks like SE?ES or SE??ES.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 4:59 pm    Post subject: 482 Reply with quote

Okay, I think I've got it. Each word is comprised of elemental abbreviations found on the periodic table. Furthermore, all the abbreviations which build each word are, in each case, to be found together in a specific row or column of the table (the row/column in question, of course, is different for each word) except[/] for one abbreviation in each word, which breaks the pattern by turning up in a [i]different row or column. For example, the elements which comprise the word "CARPAL" (C Ar P Al) are all found in the 3rd row of the table, except for C, which is in the second row. So we isolate C and move on to the next word.

Doing this for each word gives us C O Rn Y Cl ?? Es. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that, since there's a Sherlock Holmes theme at play here, that the remaining element is a U that gives C O Rn Y. Cl U Es. Corny clues, of course, would certainly make the production worse.

Call in Corny Clues.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:46 pm    Post subject: 483 Reply with quote

Gomez* wrote:
Call in Corny Clues.


CORNY CLUES is correct. Bien.

There are really no video game nerds here? "Audio Games" is actually a pretty enjoyable puzzle.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:57 pm    Post subject: 484 Reply with quote

I want to like Audio Games, but it's frustrating me to feel like I know them all but can't place any of them.

I've spent some time trying old NES games I used to play on web-based emulators, but I haven't stumbled across any of the songs.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:34 pm    Post subject: 485 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
I want to like Audio Games, but it's frustrating me to feel like I know them all but can't place any of them.

I've spent some time trying old NES games I used to play on web-based emulators, but I haven't stumbled across any of the songs.


There's only one that I would say is semi-obscure, and even that's a stretch...they're all pretty well known games.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:00 pm    Post subject: 486 Reply with quote

I tried Punch-Out, ExciteBike, Ice Hockey, Double Dribble.

It either wasn't any of those, or else I stink at matching these tunes.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: 487 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
I tried Punch-Out, ExciteBike, Ice Hockey, Double Dribble.

It either wasn't any of those, or else I stink at matching these tunes.


None of those are represented.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:27 pm    Post subject: 488 Reply with quote

Looking back at my list, maybe I played too many sports games when I was a kid. I also played TecmoBowl, Blades of Steel, California Games. Seems like every game I had outside of the 3 Mario Bros. was a sports game.

I'll find a list of top NES games and give them a quick play tonight.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:06 am    Post subject: 489 Reply with quote

I resorted to Sporcle quizzes - http://www.sporcle.com/search/?p=1&s=nes+music

#1 is MegaMan 2 (Bubble Man level)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YruCYWffiiM#t=0m30s
0:13 of Audio Games Clip #1

#2 is Castlevania
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYfgpodCVHE
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:13 am    Post subject: 490 Reply with quote

3. The Legend of Zelda
4. Marble Madness
5. Metroid
6. Final Fantasy
7. Super Mario Bros.

And back to lurking.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: 491 Reply with quote

Scurra wrote:

I am impressed by the "aha" that spotted the elements though - I can't see anything that really points to it, although I grant you that "elementary, dear Watson" is a fine clue; it just seems a bit like hindsight in action.


Oh, definitely. I would never have thought of "elementary, my dear watson" and element symbols in a million years. I'm curious how it came about, too.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 2:36 pm    Post subject: 492 Reply with quote

Greg rocks! But now what?

I would have thought of "Elementary, my dear Watson" as a clue for elements, and I'm quite sure I have used it as a clue for this in the past.

I just don't think I would have put Sherlock Holmes = "Elementary, my dear Watson" = elements together.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:21 pm    Post subject: 493 Reply with quote

Wouldn't the next step be to identify what's going on in the game from the sound effects?

Is it just me that finds it suspicious that the clips are 26 seconds each?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:35 am    Post subject: 494 Reply with quote

I have to admit that with this one I listened to the first few, realised that I didn't know them, and stopped. If I had got to the end I would have recognised Super Mario Bros. straight away...

And yes, I agree that the 26 seconds thing is clearly indicating a letter match in each clip somehow.

Anyway, for #7 it sounds like the very beginning of the game - run along, jump on a whatsit, hit a block to create a mushroom, jump into the mushroom and grow. It all sounds very convincing to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 12:24 am    Post subject: 495 Reply with quote

Well, I'm ready to move on... not sure if there's anybody else, though.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:25 pm    Post subject: 496 Reply with quote

I'm in most cases not good enough to even begin solving these Revenge most foul! I'm following with interset though..
But yes, next puzzle would be good methinks
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:55 pm    Post subject: 497 Reply with quote

I'm unmotivated right now...maybe a new puzzle would fix that.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:40 pm    Post subject: 498 Reply with quote

I'll get the new puzzle ready in a couple minutes, but here's a hint to put this puzzle to bed.

1. Suspence and Greg's identifications are all correct.
2. The "All are 26 seconds" insight is a good one.
3. If you've played the games, there's something a bit off about each clip.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 4:41 pm    Post subject: 499 Reply with quote

New puzzle: Match Game by Patrick Blindauer.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:12 pm    Post subject: 500 Reply with quote

Solution is posted on that website, perhaps you can copy it to another location without the solution.
Was working on it and noticed the link. Tried it to see if it worked.
Can't unknow now what I know Melancholy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:28 pm    Post subject: 501 Reply with quote

It's been that way on all puzzles...You have to resist the urge, it's part of the challenge, knowing you are only a click away from the answer, yet devoting hours of your life to come up with it the right way.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 5:31 pm    Post subject: 502 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
It's been that way on all puzzles...You have to resist the urge, it's part of the challenge, knowing you are only a click away from the answer, yet devoting hours of your life to come up with it the right way.


That's something to consider: hosting the hunt in two formats, with and without solutions.

But, yeah...willpower is key. I'd rather not put each separate puzzle in a solution-free location. Lots of work for me.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:34 pm    Post subject: 503 Reply with quote

I'll try to resist next time Felicitous
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:42 pm    Post subject: 504 Reply with quote

First half:

Row 1
CANOE/THANX
NYMPH/NORAD
OZONE/OBESE
ELBOW/FEMUR?
???/???

Row 2
???/???
WRATH/FENCE?
ZELDA/SHERA?
ARGUE/CHASM
DANCE/LOOSE (or LOUSE?)

Row 3
PESTO/GUMBY
???/WENDY?
ETHEL/???
PRIMA/EDSEL
EXILE/TRYST

Row 4
METRO/???
HAZEL/???
BAMBI/STOLI?
TORSO/SHREK
ENTRY/ALIAS

Row 5
TASTY/HERTZ
ROGUE/RHYME
???/VIXEN
VOGUE/NEPAL
ACTOR/INDIA

Row 6
SKYPE/FLASH
TITHE?/TUTOR
HYENA/DELTA?
FABLE?/SAINT?
RAZOR/RAVEN

Row 7
SEVEN/VIRGO
???/WOOLS?
BRAVO/KEANU
GATOR/???
ADAMS/THETA

Row 8
DINGO?/MEANT??
ISUZU/ESSAY
CAVEL??/TIMED?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:47 pm    Post subject: 505 Reply with quote

Oh, I see, each card on top fills in the gaps of two of the 3 words of one card on the bottom. Assuming they all match up, that leaves 38 words on the bottom that are unmatched. What then?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:50 pm    Post subject: 506 Reply with quote

gftt* wrote:
Oh, I see, each card on top fills in the gaps of two of the 3 words of one card on the bottom. Assuming they all match up, that leaves 38 words on the bottom that are unmatched. What then?


Wrong again, the 38 words on the bottom match up in 19 pairs, it seems. So now we have 57 words.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 6:51 pm    Post subject: 507 Reply with quote

I can't do math. 95 words.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:22 am    Post subject: 508 Reply with quote

So Image 5:

Matches up with Image 40:

To give VIOLA and MCFLY, with the top line of 40 unused.

Image 6:

Image 60:

HEDDA and LOFTY, bottom line of 60 unused.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:45 am    Post subject: 509 Reply with quote

Words are in groups of 5, where the first 2 are on a card in the top half, the first three are on a card in the second half, the last 2 are on a card in the bottom half, and the last 3 are on a card in the second half. For instance,
SEVEN
VIRGO
PORGY
SKYPE
LEASE
is from r7c1 in the top, r1c1 on the bottom, r6c1 on top, and r6c3 on bottom.

Keeping in the theme, PORGY has a natural match of BESS... not sure about the others. LEND/LEASE, perhaps?

Let's try another:

ROGUE
RHYME
LIFTS
VIOLA
MCFLY

(bottom: r1c2, r1c5; top: r5c2, r1c5). RHYME or REASON... OK, not so useful.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:47 am    Post subject: 510 Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 1:55 am    Post subject: 511 Reply with quote

CANOE
THANX
PEKOE
TORSO
SHREK

top: r1r1, r4r4; bottom: r2c4, r1c3. No real partners of any of these words, I don't think. I sure hope this doesn't have to do with the way in which the letters are cut into two pieces. That would get messy.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:59 am    Post subject: 512 Reply with quote

PRIMA
EDSEL
EVENT
ADAMS
THETA

CANOE
THANX
PEKOE
TORSO
SHREK

ETHEL
ALTAR
TIMEX
ELBOW
LEMUR

ACTOR
INDIA
BASIS
ENTRY
ALIAS

FABLE
SAINT
QUITS
WRATH
FINCH

SEVEN
VIRGO
PORGY
SKYPE
LEASE

OZONE
OBESE
AESOP
TASTY
MERTZ

HEDDA
LOFTY
HAFIZ
SULFA
WOOFS

DINGO
MIAMI
SWANK
HYENA
DELTA

EXILE
TRYST
ELAND
ARGUE
CHASM

GAVEL
TIMID
HAGEN
NYMPH
NORAD

ROGUE
RHYME
LIFTS
VIOLA
MCFLY

GATOR
DITZY
YENTL
PESTO
GUMBY

RAZOR
RAVEN
HEIDI
PONZI
WINDY

TITHE
TUTOR
BEARD
ZELDA
SHERA

METRO
MYRRH
RAOUL
BAMBI
STOLI

VOGUE
NEPAL
LEHAR
FAGIN
VIXEN

LANCE
LOOSE
NERVY
BRAVO
KEANU

ISUZU
ESSAY
LOSER
HAZEL
IDYLL

I think that completes all of the groups. Each group seems to contain 2 words that start with the same letter...
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:49 am    Post subject: 513 Reply with quote

Quote:

I think that completes all of the groups. Each group seems to contain 2 words that start with the same letter...


more than that, each position in each group has exactly 1 duplicate letter... they spell:

EDEMA
THROE
ELMER
ANTIS
FAITH
SERGE
OESTE
HOFFA
DIANA
ERASE
NAMED
RIFLE
GETTY
RANDI
TETRA
MAORI
VEGAN
LEAVE
ISSEL
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:21 am    Post subject: 514 Reply with quote

HOFFAITHROESTETRANDIANAMEDEMAORIFLEAVEGANTISSELMERASERGETTY

Middle (unmatched) letters spell out FIRSTNAMEOFAGTSMART

HO and TY are unmatched, but them's the breaks, I guess.

call in MAXWELL
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:28 am    Post subject: 515 Reply with quote

gftt* wrote:
HOFFAITHROESTETRANDIANAMEDEMAORIFLEAVEGANTISSELMERASERGETTY

Middle (unmatched) letters spell out FIRSTNAMEOFAGTSMART

HO and TY are unmatched, but them's the breaks, I guess.

call in MAXWELL


Correctamundo.

We'll see how this next one goes...Freshman Physics by Kai Huang.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject: 516 Reply with quote

Wow... Can you guys explain in a bit more detail how you solved Match Game?

Edit: Never mind, I read the solution. Nice work.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:44 am    Post subject: 517 Reply with quote

Word Length
In 2
to 2
for 3
for 3
for 3
from 4
Heat 4
Heat 4
HVAC 4
Flows 5
Fluid 5
Fluid 5
Human 5
Flight 6
Fluids 6
Humans 6
Indoor 6
Places 6
Freedom 7
Helpful 7
History 7
Horizon 7
Housing 7
Thermal 7
Thought 7
Traffic 7
Highways 8
Partners 8
Planning 8
Politics 8
Transfer 8
Implement 9
Pathogens 9
Therapies 9
Historical 10
Industrial 10
Integrated 10
Introduces 10
Introduces 10
Principles 10
Principles 10
Processing 10
Techniques 10
Turbulence 10
Foundations 11
Immigration 11
Positioning 11
Temperature 11
Therapeutic 11
Fundamentals 12
Hydrostatics 12
Introduction 12
Introduction 12
Technologies 12
Technologies 12
Psychrometrics 14
Immunotherapies 15
Instrumentation 15
Psychoacoustics 15
Pharmacodynamics 16

........... ....... (.. & .... ......) (1 of 2) [12, 26]

......... ....... ............ ... ........ [29, 13]

.......... .... ........ & ..... .......... [13, 9]

.......... .... & .......-...... .......... [11, 17]

............: ........ & ....... ..... ........ (2 of 3) [3, 6]

............: ..... ......., ......., & ........ [3, 4]

.......... ....... .......... ... ............... [23, 7]

...............: .......... ......... ... ......... (1 of 2) [15, 2]

.. ......: ........... ........... & Pharmacodynamics [4, 19]

.......... ............, .........., & ..... .......... [10, 6]

...... ....: ............, ............, & Psychrometrics (2 of 2) [13, 19]

...............: ......., ..........., & ...... ........... [1, 26]

50 words to be fitted into 10 five-word clues.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: 518 Reply with quote

Some more easy ones...

In 2
to 2
for 3
for 3
for 3
from 4
Heat 4
Heat 4
HVAC 4
Flows 5
Fluid 5
Fluid 5
Human 5
Flight 6
Fluids 6
Humans 6
Indoor 6
Places 6
Freedom 7
Helpful 7
History 7
Horizon 7
Housing 7
Thermal 7
Thought 7
Traffic 7
Highways 8
Partners 8
Planning 8
Politics 8
Transfer 8
Implement 9
Pathogens 9
Therapies 9
Historical 10
Industrial 10
Integrated 10
Introduces 10
Introduces 10
Principles 10
Principles 10
Processing 10
Techniques 10
Turbulence 10
Foundations 11
Immigration 11
Positioning 11
Temperature 11
Therapeutic 11
Fundamentals 12
Hydrostatics 12
Introduction 12
Introduction 12
Technologies 12
Technologies 12
Psychrometrics 14
Immunotherapies 15
Instrumentation 15
Psychoacoustics 15
Pharmacodynamics 16

........... ....... (to & from ......) (1 of 2) [12, 26]

......... ....... ............ for ........ [29, 13]

.......... .... ........ & ..... .......... [13, 9]

.......... .... & .......-...... .......... [11, 17]

............: ........ & ....... ..... ........ (2 of 3) [3, 6]

............: ..... ......., ......., & ........ [3, 4]

.......... ....... .......... for ............... [23, 7]

...............: .......... ......... for ......... (1 of 2) [15, 2]

In ......: ........... ........... & Pharmacodynamics [4, 19]

.......... ............, .........., & ..... .......... [10, 6]

...... ....: ............, ............, & Psychrometrics (2 of 2) [13, 19]

...............: ......., ..........., & ...... ........... [1, 26]

50 words to be fitted into 10 five-word clues.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:52 pm    Post subject: 519 Reply with quote

I'm sure I'm not the only one who noted, but all words start with F, H, I, T or P, and there are 12 of each.

There are 60 words and 12 clues, 5 words in each.

This seems to suggest each line needs a word from each letter group. In all the ones we have F starts the 4th word. Could be a coincidence, or the same letters might need to start every word in a given position.

EDIT: Most of the I's would seem a logical starting point. I'd guess Word 1 in all 12 groups must start with I.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:01 pm    Post subject: 520 Reply with quote

I think I've confirmed my previous post.

First words match with I. Second words match up with H lengths, 3rd to T, 4th to F, 5th to P. Then some words seem to fit logically into place:

1 Immigration ??????? To & From Places
2 Implement ??????? Technologies For ????????
3 ?????????? ???? Transfer ????? ??????????
4 ?????????? ???? ??????? ?????? ??????????
5 Introduction: Highways & Traffic Flows Planning
6 Introduction: Human ??????? ??????? ????????
7 ?????????? ??????? ?????????? For Psychoacoustics
8 Immunotherapies: Historical Therapies For Pathogens
9 In Humans : ??????????? Foundations & Pharmacodynamics
10 ?????????? Hydrostatics ?????????? ????? ??????????
11 Indoor ???? Technologies, Fundamentals & Psychometrics
12 Instrumentation ??????? ??????????? & Freedom Positioning
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