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Courk
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:47 am    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

Obligatory link to the puzzle.
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Suspence
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:24 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

No real idea yet, just happy to have a GLP to work on.

String lengths and letter frequency below:

LMRERAOIISCAAMEARPSDTOOTUEOTNARER - 33
CCHAESVEEAHDDRITRVAREIER - 24
WEPEMNEASLMRMEEYDNETDSALMELN - 28
LDECIRAMBURRLAGLEYEUESR - 23
BTARSTSILALTSEOINGTO - 20
COAOMTETSOMBTLWOAEGBRLYDET - 26
LCNAIENAUECLFRPACSCHEASTIILTREELRLYE - 36
RPGMRORZGVMZOANORLAZELOONLNOLAEA - 32
RGBOGRQOOUEYFREODSRIARNET - 25

a 25
b 5
c 9
d 8
e 35
f 2
g 7
h 3
i 11
j 0
k 0
l 20
m 11
n 11
o 20
p 4
q 1
r 28
s 13
t 16
u 5
v 3
w 2
x 0
y 5
z 3
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 2:51 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

Nothing so far...but I have a sneaking feeling of "scampi" on line 1 and "gorgonzola" on line 8. Almost certainly wrong so treat with care.

I was toying with arranging the letters in boxes but 33 means just 3 * 11, and 23 is a real problem.
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Suspence
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:01 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

GORGONZOLA MOZZARELLA PROVALONE with a remainder of RMN (which is close to ROMANO?)

"Smile for the Camera" may mean we are looking for "cheese" in all of these.

Line 2 has CHEDDAR and HAVARTI

Line 4 has LIMBURGER

Line 9 has ROQUEFORT

I'm guessing the cheeses in each line are from a specific area.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:17 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

What I've got so far:

1. ???
2. CHEDDAR
3. WENSLEYDALE
4. LIMBURGER
5. BRIE? (Not sure about this one. Seems a bit too short)
6. CAMEMBERT
7. ???
8. MOZZARELLA
9. ROQUEFORT
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:20 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

AMERICAN in line 1
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:34 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

I like it...I was worried about the link to the puzzle title, but cheeses makes sense.

What a pity I hate cheese.

Just need a giant list of cheeses. Monty Python/cheeseshop anyone?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:10 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

It seems like only one cheese in each line can be found with the letters sequentially, which is the basis for Gomez' list I believe.

I had to skip around the string to get the other cheeses. Skipping around in Line 1 can give either AMERICAN or MASCARPONE. I've yet to find a sequential cheese name in Line 1.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 4:18 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

Hmm...looks like PROVALONE is actually spelled PROVOLONE. My bad.

So I can get GORGONZOLA MOZZARELLA ROMANO with PRVLNE left over.

CACHAILLE can be found sequentially in Line 7

GRUYERE is sequentially in Line 9, but so is ROQUEFORT. They'd both have to utilize the same U.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:43 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

I like where you're going with this. Perhaps, in the reverse of the Sandwiches puzzle, the missing letters spell the answer to the puzzle?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 6:56 pm    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

Given this:
GORGONZOLA MOZZARELLA ROMANO with PRVLNE left over

It's possible that the goal is to find 3 cheeses in each line, then the remaining letters will be missing one letter to make a 4th cheese. In this case that would be O, as in prOvOlOne.

So perhaps Line 7 gives us O, and we need to find one letter for each line to make a 9 letter word.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 8:10 pm    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

Here are the cheeses I've found that can be spelled sequentially. For the lines where 4 cheeses have been found, the "leftovers" are the unused letters if the first available instance of each letter is utilized:

1) MASCARPONE
2) CHEDDAR / CHEVRE
3) WENSLEYDALE
4) LIMBURGER / DERBY / DURRUS / CABRALES - Leftover: LEE
5) STILTON / BRIE / ASIAGO / TILSIT - Leftover: SL
6) CAMEMBERT
7) CACHAILLE
8) GORGONZOLA / ROMANO / MOZZARELLA / PROVOLONE - Leftover: AONOLA
9) ROQUEFORT / GRUYERE
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LordKinbote
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:19 pm    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

Hmm...Foggy Brume wrote basically this same puzzle for the Puzzle Boat. It too had to do with cheese.

Edit: Well, it wasn't *exactly* the same, but it did involve figuring out how to read strings of letters.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:14 pm    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/09/puzzles/sweet_cheeses/SOLUTION/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/09/puzzles/sweet_cheeses/SOLUTION/


Believe it or not...that is not the Foggy Brume cheese puzzle I was referring to. Heh.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:24 pm    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

The guy likes cheese.

Line 4 contains DERBY, DURRUS and CABRALES
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:32 pm    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

1) MASCARPONE / LEICESTER / ROCAMADOUR / RICOTTA - Leftover: RAOOR
2) CHEDDAR / HERVE / HAVARTI / CHESHIRE - Leftover: CEEER
3) WENSLEYDALE / PARMESAN / EMMENTAL / EDAM - Leftover: EEEDL
4) LIMBURGER / DERBY / DURRUS / CABRALES - Leftover: LEE
5) STILTON / BRIE / ASIAGO / TILSIT - Leftover: SL
6) CAMEMBERT / COLBY / COTTAGE / TOMA - OSTWOLD
7) CACHAILLE / LANCASHIRE / NEUFCHATEL / CAERPHILLY - Leftover: IAULCSITRL
8) GORGONZOLA / ROMANO / MOZZARELLA / PROVOLONE - Leftover: AONOLA
9) ROQUEFORT / GRUYERE / BOURSIN / GOUDA - Leftover: OR

http://www.cheese.com/all.asp

RAOORCEEREEEDLLEESLOSTWOLDIAULCSITRLAONOLAOR

I suppose we need to do the same with this string of leftovers. It seems a bit long, perhaps there are actually five cheeses per line? (BRA and BRIE are in Line 9, for example, but wouldn't eliminate any leftovers)
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:25 pm    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

GRANA is in Line 8 and would eliminate the first leftover A.

Cheeses in the current leftover string:
ROLLOT
ADELOST
ORLA
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 6:00 pm    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure the answer is given by finding the correct combination of four cheeses which can be spelled using combinations of the 9 strings of the given order which utilise all the letters in the string, only one of which must be used by all four.
e.g. form string one you can spell (as Suspence suggested) each of:
Mascarpone, Leicester, Rocamadour and Ricotta where only the 'C' must be used by all of these.

Using (mostly) the strings given by Suspence (except string 4 where BLUE is required, and string 6 where COTSWOLD needs to be used) you find that only one letter in each is used by all four, spelling:
CHABICHOU
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

Sweet! Nicely solved, Oscar!
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 4:54 pm    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

Suspence wrote:
Sweet! Nicely solved, Oscar!


So was it actually solved? I don't see a solution up there:(

It makes my brain hurt... that is why i am here though.

My order would have been some Russian caviar, Bruschetta with Tomato

and Basil, some Gargonzola cheese and a wine selection of Chateau Smith Haut Lafitte Blanc Pessac Leognan.....
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2012 7:46 pm    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

Texasparagus wrote:
So was it actually solved? I don't see a solution up there:(
Chabichou is the solution.
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