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ralphmerridew
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 Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 11:22 am    Post subject: 41 Considering that the bars only come out when the fire seal is north, then the only way there could be a solution shorter than 6 is if there's one of length 2.
Zag
Tired of his old title

Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 2:36 pm    Post subject: 42

 lostdummy wrote: So far my best solution in 6 moves is: E N N E W S or if pressing central button is shown: CE CN CN CE CW CS C

Wow. Sure enough. I actually spent some time trying to find a 6-move solution and couldn't. There are at least 3 distinct ways to do it in 10, and I hope that yours is the only 6 (or else I've missed two solutions).

By the way, I wrote this applet so that it is really easy to make different variations of the rules. (I haven't actually made it so that they are arguments to the applet, but that wouldn't be rocket science.) If you have a set of rules that you think would make an interesting version of the puzzle, let me know and I'll code it up for you.
lostdummy
Daedalian Member

Posted: Mon Aug 25, 2008 3:41 pm    Post subject: 43

 Zag wrote: Wow. Sure enough. I actually spent some time trying to find a 6-move solution and couldn't. There are at least 3 distinct ways to do it in 10, and I hope that yours is the only 6 (or else I've missed two solutions).

hehe..dont feel bad about not finding 6 move solution - I didnt either ;p I found manually my solution under 20 moves, and then I wrote program to find better solution. But since I estimated possible solution to be still in high teens, I didnt make brute force solution (because max number of combinations would be over 4^19). That is why, when I found 6 move, I wasnt sure if maybe even faster is possible.

But after that I realised that I can make brute force search since at least one 6 move solution exists, and 4^6 is way easier to brute force check - and I didnt find any other solution with 6 moves.

 Zag wrote: If you have a set of rules that you think would make an interesting version of the puzzle, let me know and I'll code it up for you.

I think interesting problem here would be to find set of rules that result in as high minimal number of needed moves for solution as possible. Another one would be to have bit more complex rules, ie harder to figure out. If I find any of those, I'll send to you for new version of applet ;p
MNOWAX
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 Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:42 pm    Post subject: 44 Team Zag http://greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12987 Team Groza http://greylabyrinth.com/discussion/viewtopic.php?t=12988_________________The Man The Myth The Legend MNOWAX
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Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: 45

The Challenge was obvious if you solve all five puzzles! Or you can just look at the Game thread...

Everyone else's was done in PDF file format, all of which can be found HERE

Except for lex's which is:

http://www.glpics.com/lexprod/shopping.png
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 Posted: Sat Oct 18, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: 46 This Final Puzzle was to be done in 20 words or less. Scurra: hoop Billy Miserables signature leading model important Ventura / Osiris eightsome Desmond Nathan or Scooby Flanders Hard USA / peasy intransitive Perlman -Answer: Each clue is half of a three or four letter answer which make a diagramless crossword; read outer letters. T H E G H U L A L I A R T L E S N T U N E E D G E E I N U D E V E R Y S A C E H I S I S R E E L R Y B A - Marcusl Formed of tree, but Royalty. To the top, but one you drop. Kept my pride, but lonely-eyed. Who? -King of diamonds.- lexprod PUZZLE: book. yang's is One archaic in Large point soccer. old mate. It SOLUTION BELOW The 12 letters are 3 scrambled clues. It is yang's mate. One point in soccer. Large old archaic book. The answers are 3 four letter words. YING GOAL TOME If you assign each letter with the corresponding word in their clues (ex. It = Y, is = I, yang's = N, mate. = G) then put them into the puzzle, you get ENIGMATOLOGY. The study of puzzles Zag Locate title. Analyst's compatriot Clandestine fraternity Egalitarian stockroom Hospitality provider Insidious smallpox Pharmacist's goal Simplistic counterstep Tantalizing scribe Taxidermist infidel Here are hints making it increasingly obvious, and then the solution. Hint 1: "Locate Title" is meant as instructions. Hint 2: There are only a couple that would really make a decent puzzle title. For each one, suppose that it is the title and then figure out what it could mean. Hint 3: "Clandestine Fraternity" is the title. All the others have something in common that this one doesn't share. Hint 4: Fraternities are named how? Hint 5: Try swapping each pair of words. Answer: For each pair of words, swap them and there is a Greek letter hidden. i.e. "compatr IOT A nalyst's" The full list: Analyst's compatriot ---- iota Clandestine fraternity Egalitarian stockroom --- omega Hospitality provider --- rho Insidious smallpox --- xi Pharmacist's goal --- alpha Simplistic counterstep --- psi Tantalizing scribe --- beta (or eta) Taxidermist infidel --- delta _________________The Man The Myth The Legend MNOWAX
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 Posted: Sat Dec 13, 2008 8:55 pm    Post subject: 47 Groza's Finale: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=d11179935a9d7d06ab1eab3e9fa335ca06b8b64e11c5c171 Scurra's Finale http://www.scurra.com/labyrinth/final/01.pdf http://www.scurra.com/labyrinth/final/02-03-04.pdf http://www.scurra.com/labyrinth/final/05.pdf http://www.scurra.com/labyrinth/final/06-07.pdf http://www.scurra.com/labyrinth/final/08-09.pdf_________________The Man The Myth The Legend MNOWAX
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 Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 7:29 am    Post subject: 48 ITS THAT TIME AGAIN! Top GL'er Vegas has just started. all of the puzzles will be shown off here in the Hall of Fame. This time, I have more reliable hosting! Happy puzzling!_________________The Man The Myth The Legend MNOWAX
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 Posted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:25 pm    Post subject: 49 By request, this years competition will have the competitors own threads here at VSP. The links to each are as follows. Follow your Favorite Competitor! Projectyl Groza528 Persona Xalolo Lexprod Jbvntx Zag LordKinbote_________________The Man The Myth The Legend MNOWAX
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 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: 50 Welcome to the 2012 Top GL'er! In a moment new puzzles will be added to the hall of fame._________________The Man The Myth The Legend MNOWAX
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:53 am    Post subject: 51

Suspense:

 Code: NAME THAT ALBUM Runs with a young adult. (11) (87) Hide a road under construction. (9) (03) Defang aliens evenly. (6) (72) Unmarried woman keeps in great shape. (7) (83) The beginning of her own loud ensemble. (4) (94) I harm a hybrid. (6) (91) Epoch deemed perverse. (7,4) (90) Kenya's not taking sides. (4) (87) Cost includes a smaller number. (6) (03) Victor is stuck within a bunker, perhaps. (4) (94) Even Romans kiss. (5) (02) Boston College surrounded in two directions. (4) (03) Send kids to the school hospital. (4) (96) Softened after an accident! (8) (95) Seek no monetary units in return. (7) (70) In a husk, or not! (4) (94) Bugs probation officer at the beginning. (6) (78) More than one uniform at the outset. (2) (09) Carport just outside the British capital. (7) (12) Before a camper boards a famous ship. (7) (93) A portion, so they say. (4) (00) Heavenly bread takes note. (7) (92) A freshwater fish submits. (10) (69) Auntie holds on to what belongs to me. (6) (04) Small chopped porcinos. (9) (99) An outspoken fletcher. (9) (97) Fall asleep taking barbiturates first. (2,5) (92) Clever deformed organ. (9) (12) Lobby and agitate. (3,5) (69) Kangaroo kid clutching a container. (7) (11) Devouring eleven pastries. (6) (91) A billion years after family golfs poorly. (5,2,4) (03) Odd beefcake. (4) (96) Moist, or a tsunami. (4,4) (11) A becoming sister, too. (9) (84) Regret life choices upon reflection. (6) (08) Addict injects heroin. (5) (12) Spanish for "extra". (8) (09) Left is right as well. (4) (93) Call a timeout. (9) (86) Collected around November. (6) (01) Disheveled linens in China. (4,4,5) (07) Shock jock chases public relations. (6) (93) Buys no optional features. (5) (08) Pieces of cabbage, either way you look at it. (4) (76) Half of club stuck in the muck. (7) (94) Swaddles oddly. (4) (92) Initially, new instruments are played inside -- but I'll just have to deal with it. (6) (95) Left in the middle of infomercial. (3) (92) You and I follow a fashionable baby. (7) (99) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- How ridiculous. (3) (69) Central character's extremely demonic. (4) (79) Elements of a unique enzyme. (5) (91) A wilder performance. (5,2) (99) Smorgasbord table opens up. (7) (70) Keep in key attributes. (4) (03) Diagram on essential components. (7) (78) English tenor's lost arrangement. (3,7,6) (05) Mob loses a leader and a follower. (3) (09) See the risque parts. (7) (05) Every other letter in italics. (3) (92) Improved a halfback. (4) (81) Wants to order returned ingredients. (5) (99) Strange odors. (5) (68) Raging artist is red. (4,7) (93) Hebrew aboard a train in Chicago. (5) (01) Idiot at heart. (3) (83) Scream at intoxicated coward. (10) (03) Feel sick around Queen Victoria. (5) (04) Endlessly amused. (4) (99) Razz topaz gems. (2,3) (94) Eerily barren in bays. (11) (94) Within snowbanks on icy outhouses. (5,5) (92) Silicon implants help fill out your denim, so I'm told. (7) (73) Angry mob infiltrates a cereal plant. (3,6) (77) Corrected a parent. (7) (92) Ethusiastic obeisance intercepted by the German. (5,5) (97) End a Grey Labyrinthian. (5,3) (97) Dirty bomb fragments turned back. (4) (93) Hijack any electronic samples. (5) (05) Deception right inside a support group. (8) (06) Features included in the fourth ever version. (3,5) (97) First cut before beheading cat. (6) (04) Englishman gets back foreign currency. (7) (99) Yes, sir!  Romeo's back, mostly. (9) (92) Scottish family takes vacation. (7) (01) Trauma center in a different country. (9) (84) Crackled in regular intervals. (4) (98) Manly Romans in make-up. (7,6) (94) North Carolina university accepts final applicant. (5) (69) No comment in the middle of a drug bust. (6) (00) Alternating actuaries. (4) (79) Kills first punk band. (9) (97) Sounds like Robert is getting impatient. (3,5) (70) I helped pro pitchers get organized. (3,3,5,7) (02) Pairs up plywood pieces. (3,6) (76) A good portion of "Prometheus" edited. (3,4) (07) Destroyed a moron thief. (5,2,4) (92) French geometer famous for distribution without final success. (6) (93) Desert surrounds nothing. (8) (06)

Scurra

 Quote: HAUNTING NOTES 21 10 02 01 07 01 29 04 25 08 18 06 19 03 04 06 21 03 03 06 16 05 01 12 04 03 Attached music file in MP3

Elethiomel - in HTML

groza528 - In PDF

Jack_Ian - In MP3 Format

Esme - In PDF
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Elethiomel
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 7:59 am    Post subject: 52 So now we just go ahead and solve these, right? Hopefully there are no bonus points for the best solvers.
Elethiomel
Daedalian Member

Scurra
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:19 am    Post subject: 54 (have deleted ones now added above) Razz topaz gems. (2,3) (94) ZZ TOP - Antenna (is "gems" a container indicator?) Shock jock chases public relations. (6) (93) PRIMUS - Pork Soda The album titles are coming out nicely - it seems to start THE ELEVE(NT)H..._________________ still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life. New definitions: COFFEE - someone who is coughed upon
Elethiomel
Daedalian Member

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:46 am    Post subject: 55

 Scurra wrote: (is "gems" a container indicator?)

I think it works, and it creates a nice surface reading there. Cf. "hidden gems".
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:50 pm    Post subject: 56 One thing that is not apparent from the text version of my puzzle is that there are two sets of fifty clues, not 100 clues in one list as it appears now. MNO, perhaps you could separate with a line in the coded text? Between these two, IIRC: You and I follow a fashionable baby. (7) (99) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (The) WHO - How ridiculous. (3) (69) = Tommy_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.Last edited by Suspence on Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:31 pm; edited 2 times in total
Thok
Oh, foe, the cursed teeth!

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 12:54 pm    Post subject: 57 Kangaroo kid clutching a container. (7) (11) JOURNEY Eclipse
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:39 pm    Post subject: 58 Left in the middle of infomercial - REM - Automatic For The People A billion years after family golfs poorly. - KINGS OF LEON - Youth & Young Manhood Bugs probation officer at the beginning - POLICE - Outlandos D'Amour You and I follow a fashionable baby - INCUBUS - Make Yourself
Thok
Oh, foe, the cursed teeth!

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 1:49 pm    Post subject: 59 Moist or a tsunami TORI AMOS Night of the Hunters
Jack_Ian
Big Endian

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:04 pm    Post subject: 60 End a Grey Labyrinthian. GREEN DAY = Nimrod Englishman gets back foreign currency. BRITNEY (Assuming Spears) = ...Baby One More Time P.S. I'm impressed. A lot of work gone into this.
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:16 pm    Post subject: 61 The first half looks like 'Eleventh track on nineteen ninety one album by Pearl Jam' which is RELEASE (off TEN)
Jack_Ian
Big Endian

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:40 pm    Post subject: 62 Second part "Lose Control" on Shock Value II. (i.e. Third Track on Two Thousand Nine Album By Rapper Timbaland)
Jack_Ian
Big Endian

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:56 pm    Post subject: 63 Interestingly Release was a Timbaland song. I don't see anything reciprocal for Pearl Jam though.
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 3:05 pm    Post subject: 64 Umm, Jack_Ian, I think you'll find it's: '...two thousand and seven album...' which was 'Shock Value' giving RELEASE again... Silicon implants help to fill out your denim, so I'm told - GENE(SI)S - Selling England By The Pound
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Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:04 pm    Post subject: 65

 Suspence wrote: One thing that is not apparent from the text version of my puzzle is that there are two sets of fifty clues, not 100 clues in one list as it appears now. MNO, perhaps you could separate with a line in the coded text? Between these two, IIRC: You and I follow a fashionable baby. (7) (99) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- (The) WHO - How ridiculous. (3) (69) = Tommy

fixed.
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Suspence
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 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 4:57 pm    Post subject: 66 Scurra's - Haunting Notes 0:01 - 0:03 - Black Lace - Agadoo 0:04 - 0:09 - David Bowie - China Girl 0:10 - 0:13 - The Pogues - FairyTale of New York 0:14 - 0:20 - BoyZone - Love Me for a Reason 0:21 - 0:27 - Alvin Stardust - My Coo Ca Choo 0:28 - 0:34 - Beatles - Penny Lane 0:35 - 0:40 - Boney M - Rasputin 0:41 - 0:49 - Rihanna - SOS 0:50 - 0:56 - Coldplay - Speed of Sound 0:57 - 1:04 - Spice Girls - Stop 1:05 - 1:07 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams 1:08 - 1:13 - Kinks - Waterloo 1:14 - 1:18 - Shakin' Stevens - You Drive Me Crazy_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.Last edited by Suspence on Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:17 pm; edited 8 times in total
Jack_Ian
Big Endian

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:03 pm    Post subject: 67

 Oscar wrote: Umm, Jack_Ian, I think you'll find it's: '...two thousand and seven album...' which was 'Shock Value' giving RELEASE again...
So RELEASE is the answer to Suspence's puzzle.
1 down - 7 to go.

For HAUNTING NOTES, 13 songs, 26 numbers. Looks like first number is word-count and the second is letter-count, since the second one is generally small.
I recognised most of the songs, so I'll take this on later this evening when I have time and post what I find out. (Unless of course, somebody else wants to take it in the meantime)
Suspence
Daedalian Member

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:06 pm    Post subject: 68

 Jack_Ian wrote: So RELEASE is the answer to Suspence's puzzle. 1 down - 7 to go.

Not quite.
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:17 pm    Post subject: 69

Suspence wrote:
 Jack_Ian wrote: So RELEASE is the answer to Suspence's puzzle. 1 down - 7 to go.

Not quite.
Hmmm...
YES?
Suspence
Daedalian Member

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:18 pm    Post subject: 70

 Jack_Ian wrote: YES?

NO!

but that's closer...
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject: 71 Ahh! TOMATO
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:21 pm    Post subject: 72 Scurra's Puzzle Haunting Notes 0:01 - 0:03 - Black Lace - Agadoo 0:04 - 0:09 - David Bowie - China Girl 0:10 - 0:13 - The Pogues - FairyTale of New York 0:14 - 0:20 - BoyZone - Love Me for a Reason 0:21 - 0:27 - Alvin Stardust - My Coo Ca Choo 0:28 - 0:34 - Beatles - Penny Lane 0:35 - 0:40 - Boney M - Rasputin 0:41 - 0:49 - Rihanna - SOS 0:50 - 0:56 - Coldplay - Speed of Sound 0:57 - 1:04 - Spice Girls - Stop 1:05 - 1:07 - Eurythmics - Sweet Dreams 1:08 - 1:13 - Kinks - Waterloo Sunset 1:14 - 1:18 - Shakin' Stevens - You Drive Me Crazy 21 10 02 01 07 01 29 04 25 08 18 06 19 03 04 06 21 03 03 06 16 05 01 12 04 03_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.Last edited by Suspence on Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:45 pm; edited 1 time in total
Jack_Ian
Big Endian

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:37 pm    Post subject: 73

 Jack_Ian wrote: For HAUNTING NOTES, 13 songs, 26 numbers. Looks like first number is word-count and the second is letter-count, since the second one is generally small.
Well, that's not right. Agadoo doesn't have any words greater than 9 letters long in the lyrics, so "21 10" must relate to something else.

Also, in case it makes a difference, the Kinks song is called Waterloo Sunset (and has no words with 12 letters in).
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: 74 Jack_Ian's A mashup of lots of songs: Sign Your Name - Terence Trent D'arby TOGETHER WITH For Your Eyes Only - Sheena Easton Men In Black - Will Smith TOGETHER WITH It's Raining Men - The Weather Girls Things Can Only Get Better - Howard Jones TOGETHER WITH Can You Feel The Love Tonight - Elton John Against All Odds - Phil Collins TOGETHER WITH All That She Wants - Ace of Base Start Me Up - Rolling Stones TOGETHER WITH We Didn't Start The Fire - Billy Joel (My wife did most of the work, she has an ear for this stuff) EDIT: Right after finishing all this, I tried it with headphones and noticed that each track was conveniently playing on either the left or right. Wish I had noted that before, it would have really sped things up._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Scurra
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:13 pm    Post subject: 75 Your Men Can All Start?! Hmmm, that doesn't sound very promising._________________ still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life. New definitions: COFFEE - someone who is coughed upon
Elethiomel
Daedalian Member

Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:16 pm    Post subject: 76

 Jack_Ian wrote: Ahh! TOMATO

Is that the answer? I don't get it.
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:20 pm    Post subject: 77 It's actually a typo (I assume) of the answer._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Sep 03, 2012 11:31 pm    Post subject: 78 In case it's important: LEFT - For Your Eyes Only - Sheena Easton RIGHT - Sign Your Name - Terence Trent D'arby LEFT - It's Raining Men - The Weather Girls RIGHT - Men In Black - Will Smith LEFT - Things Can Only Get Better - Howard Jones RIGHT - Can You Feel The Love Tonight - Elton John LEFT - All That She Wants - Ace of Base RIGHT - Against All Odds - Phil Collins LEFT - We Didn't Start The Fire - Billy Joel RIGHT - Start Me Up - Rolling Stones_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Scurra
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 Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 12:16 am    Post subject: 79 All I've managed to do with Elethiomel's is to spot the anagram in the title. And I haven't really come up with anything for the others at all yet._________________ still Quiz Olympiad champion. Must get a life. New definitions: COFFEE - someone who is coughed upon
Jack_Ian
Big Endian

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:33 am    Post subject: 80

Elethiomel wrote:
 Jack_Ian wrote: Ahh! TOMATO

Is that the answer? I don't get it.
"Release, Release"
Song by Yes from the album TORMATO
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