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Four by Four (stolen from Only Connect)
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Scurra
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:29 am    Post subject: 81 Reply with quote

PuzzleScot wrote:
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Series 3 is on right now in the UK,

Really? When and where? radiotimes.com didn't give any results, and http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lpk02 only mentions series 2, with nothing on iplayer. rsvp.
That seems odd, since
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00lskhg
gives me a link to series 3 (and apparently all the episodes too.)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 10:03 am    Post subject: 82 Reply with quote

Had a bad day yesterday - I was one click away from that link. Duh!

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 12:12 am    Post subject: 83 Reply with quote

speaking of only connect: http://www.bbc.co.uk/onlyconnect/quiz/ there's an online game now! huzzah

edit: just tried them all out. Most I got zero, about 3 ones, 2 twos, a four (then suddenly realized that you're still on the clock to name the connections), and number 15 gave me my only 10!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 2:52 pm    Post subject: 84 Reply with quote

Thanks. Good fun, but it's a little different from the tv version.

On the programme, you do the category choosing AFTER the timer has run out, and the groupings are revealed...

Playing on this basis, I got (wall: groups/category names)
1: 0 / 3
2: 4 / 3
3: 0 / 3
4: 4 / 4
5: 1 / 2

Tough going! Especially when you know the category, but can't figure which 4 they're looking for! I'll try the rest later...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 3:55 pm    Post subject: 85 Reply with quote

6 - 1 / 2; 7 - 0 / 2; 8 - 1 / 3; 9 - 1 / 2 ;10 - 0 / 1
11 - 4 / 3; 12 - 4 / 4; 13 - 2 / 2; 14 - 4 / 3; 15- 4 / 3

Last set of 5 were my best set. Good fun.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: 86 Reply with quote

I got a perfect score on about half of them first time out, but then again this is easily my favourite section of the show and I've started to learn the tricks (or, perhaps, since they are boards from the show, I've just got a good memory?! Although I didn't consciously recognise any of them.)

The worst case is when you hit the third set but have no idea what the last set is. At least with this version you get the rest of the time to try and figure it out - on the show they rarely get that luxury.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 27, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: 87 Reply with quote

I've committed a cardinal sin, posted a puzzle and then never came back to post the solution! here is my latest 4x4 again

Date
Lemon
Scary
Fiesta
Fire
Daisy
Barf
Disaster
Sugar
Orange
Desire
Epic
Electra
Rose
Magnificent
Edgar

And the answers
Group 1: _____ Movie
Disaster Epic Scary Date

Group 2: _____ Bowl of college football
Sugar Orange Fiesta Rose

Group 3: Newspaper Comics Dogs
Electra Edgar Daisy Barf

Group 4: U2 singles
Magnificent Desire Fire Lemon
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:27 am    Post subject: 88 Reply with quote

Who am I?

NAP
TEASE
COLOUR
DOWN
STONE
MUTE
DOORPOST
FAITH
ALLEY
FRIENDLY
WATER
LEPPARD
BEETHOVEN
BELL
SIDE
GLOVES
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:17 am    Post subject: 89 Reply with quote

Man, I suck at these. I only get one.

[Def / Deaf: LEPPARD MUTE STONE DOORPOST (or maybe BEETHOVEN)]
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LordKinbote
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject: 90 Reply with quote

sixleggedspider wrote:
Who am I?

NAP
TEASE
COLOUR
DOWN
STONE
MUTE
DOORPOST
FAITH
ALLEY
FRIENDLY
WATER
LEPPARD
BEETHOVEN
BELL
SIDE
GLOVES


The answer is Tommy.

Spoilers:
Good news is that the answer is unambiguous. More ambiguous than I thought it would be until I got to the "KID" category.

The puzzle could have benefited from being more "tight" though. A stronger puzzle would have involved words that follow the pattern KID ______, BLIND ________, etc. Instead, you mix words that come before, words that come after, words that are associated with the answers but don't actually form a phrase (like Beethoven), phrases missing words (dumb as a doorpost), homophones (def leppard), and synonyms (tease). It might make the puzzle harder to solve, but in an artificial way. I much prefer an easy but well designed puzzle to a difficult but haphazardly designed one. Does that make sense?

Also, I'm pretty sure you meant "waiter," not "water". Revenge most foul!

Anyway, I still had fun solving it, so thanks.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:08 pm    Post subject: 91 Reply with quote

Naaah! This isn't a 3x3 (or a 3x3x3) where those are the expected rules. These puzzles are not expected to have as tight a tie to the words, that's why you get four and not just three.

That said, even your hint didn't help. I only see two choices that I can two choices that clearly go with kid. There are two others that I can stretch to fit, so I assume those are correct, but I had thought of that word before and discarded it. I guess that's my problem with these puzzles, I discard choices too easily if I only find two matches. (On the other hand, I've considered at least 10 different words with two matches -- they can't all be correct.)
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:30 pm    Post subject: 92 Reply with quote

Zag wrote:
Naaah! This isn't a 3x3 (or a 3x3x3) where those are the expected rules. These puzzles are not expected to have as tight a tie to the words, that's why you get four and not just three.


I only half agree with you.

Spoilers: I realize that a four by four doesn't have to be a fill in the blank like 3x3x3s are, but I believe that each set of four should be internally consistent. Take a look at lexprod's preceding 4x4. Some of this categories are groups of things, like Newspaper Comics Dogs. Some are fill in the blanks, like the _____ Movie series. Now imagine if the answers to movie were not "disaster", "epic", "scary", and "date", but instead were "disaster", "house" (as in movie house), "screen" (as in something you see a movie on) and "Amadeus" (a particular movie). Clearly, I'm exaggerating with my choices, but can you see how "Things that all have to do with movies somehow" is just a weaker category in general?

My suggestion that he stick to the fill-in-the-blanks clues was NOT based on the fact that it's the rules of the game that he do so, because it isn't. It was just one suggestion to make the categories tighter as a whole...though it would have made the categories all alike, which has its own weakness in a 4x4 (lexprod's, for example, has a nice mix of different category types, but again, they're all internally consistent.


Does that make sense, or am I just rambling?

And here are the answers, as I see them:


DEAF = deaf MUTE, def LEPPARD, stone DEAF, beethoven (deaf person)
DUMB = dumb BELL, dumb DOWN, dumb as a DOORPOST, dumb WA(I)TER
BLIND = blind ALLEY, blind FAITH, blind SIDE, COLOUR blind
KID = kid FRIENDLY, kid GLOVES, kidNAP, TEASE (synonym)

And that DEAF, DUMB, and BLIND KID, he sure played a mean pinball.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:18 pm    Post subject: 93 Reply with quote

I see your point. Yeah, I agree that for individual groupings, it would be good if they are internally consistent.

Dumb as a doorpost? I've heard the expressions

Dead as a doornail.
Dumb as a doorknob.
Deaf as a post (and even doorpost, though less common).

I do like the final answer, though, once you get the intermediate ones. The puzzle has a very satisfying ending.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 23, 2010 4:04 am    Post subject: 94 Reply with quote

Warning! Two of these categories I think are much harder than the other two.

Eyesore
Apple
White Queen
Trigger
Magazine
Howl
Hammer
Flower
Ribbon
Barrel
Slide
Go
Corral
Muzzle
Rolo
Computer

edit: replaced "Hoops" with "Hammer" to make it easier/better
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:42 am    Post subject: 95 Reply with quote

For those curious, I'll post the Groups but not connections below:
One: Eyesore, Trigger, Howl, Rolo
Two: Apple, White Queen, Flower, Ribbon
Three: Muzzle, Hammer, Barrel, Slide
Four: Magazine, Go, Corral, Computer
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:35 am    Post subject: 96 Reply with quote

Even with the groupings, I only get number three. (I had guessed that originally, but I only had three of the four and wasn't sure enough of it to guess.)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 3:59 am    Post subject: 97 Reply with quote

so far I m only getting #1. Its silly, but I like it. *think think think *
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:05 am    Post subject: 98 Reply with quote

got #4 just now (but I m getting told its time for sleeps)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 4:05 am    Post subject: 99 Reply with quote

j_s* wrote:
so far I m only getting #1. Its silly, but I like it. *think think think *


Extreme Delectation And yes, number 1 is goofy/kinda unfair XD
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 1:44 pm    Post subject: 100 Reply with quote

Set #1 is a cheat but very funny. Sets #3 and #4 seem fairly straightforward, but I have no idea about #2 yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:02 pm    Post subject: 101 Reply with quote

#1 is very good once you see it
You can google #2 - I wouldn't have got it otherwise!
#3 seems obvious
#4 - stuck. hint?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 2:24 pm    Post subject: 102 Reply with quote

PuzzleScot wrote:
You can google #2 - I wouldn't have got it otherwise!

Having done so, I now have lost all respect for lexprod.

Enthusiastic Grin
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:16 pm    Post subject: 103 Reply with quote

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Having done so, I now have lost all respect for lexprod.

Haha, I got number 2 from this comment Revenge most foul!
Got 3 and 4 as well; still working on 1
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 7:16 pm    Post subject: 104 Reply with quote

Ah, got 1 Revenge most foul!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:56 pm    Post subject: 105 Reply with quote

PuzzleScot wrote:
#1 is very good once you see it
You can google #2 - I wouldn't have got it otherwise!
#3 seems obvious
#4 - stuck. hint?


#3 is obvious, but it's got red herrings which makes finding out just which four the tricky part.

For a #4 hint....other answers could be "cupid" or "ay"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 12:49 am    Post subject: 106 Reply with quote

http://onlyconnect.tv/

Only Connect is taking connecting walls for their website! Woooo
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:16 pm    Post subject: 107 Reply with quote

Here is a wall from my friend Leyna, who I got into the show.

BEAR
BEE
CAT
DOG
DRAGON
HORSE
JAGUAR
LION
OX
PANTHER
PARROT
RABBIT
RAM
RAT
TIGER
TOUCAN
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: 108 Reply with quote

Popular Cereal Pitchmen:
Tony the TIGER (Frosted Flakes)
TOUCAN Sam (Fruit Loops)
Buzz the BEE (Honey Nut Cheerios)
The Trix RABBIT (Trix)

NFL Player:
PANTHER
JAGUAR
LION
BEAR

Another could be Chinese Zodiac animals, using only 4 of these:
DOG
DRAGON
HORSE
OX
RAM
RAT
RABBIT
TIGER

Unused:
CAT
PARROT
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