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[Suspence]

16 is Sarah Sutton
http://scifiandtvtalk.typepad.com/.a/6a01348361f24a970c0148c718c689970c-320wi
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[esme]

I think that I have the right troll distribution, but what now?
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[Scurra]

[Scurra]

jack_ian, can I ask if the names are all correct in your puzzle?
Because "Vicky" and "Elsa" both seem wrong to me - should they be "Vicki" and "Marion"?. (Without commenting on the other mistakes which I presume are part of the puzzle. )
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[esme]

[Jack_Ian]

[MNOWAX]

[Jack_Ian]

For Scurra's puzzle:
This should help identify a lot of them and point the way for the rest. I'd do it myself but a little too busy at the moment.

[Elethiomel]

I had a look at Novice's puzzle. I think the first step is to identify a trope that each scene corresponds to. I think I found all of them, except one:

1, GILLIGAN CUT: From The Lion King. "Timon: A diversion? What do you want me to do, dress in drag and do the hula?" followed by him doing just that.
2. BROWN NOTE: From Monty Python And The Holy Grail. The forbidden word is a "brown note" for the Knights Who Say "Ni".
3. ???: From The Incredibles? "15 years later."
4. ARMOR-PIERCING QUESTION: From A Few Good Men. "DID YOU ORDER THE CODE RED?!"
5. PUTTING THE BAND BACK TOGETHER: From Armageddon. The team of oil drillers is reassembled, having split up across the country.
6. RED PILL, BLUE PILL: From The Matrix. Trope-naming scene.
7. FUNNY ANSWERING MACHINE, or maybe WEIRD AL EFFECT: From Seinfeld. George's answering machine message, which has become more known than what it's parodying.

[Jack_Ian]

[Suspence]

Scurra's:

6-7-9 is Katy Manning, who played Jo Grant:


9-2-3 is Jacqueline Hill playing Barbara Wright


5 is Ace (Sophie Aldred)

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[Scurra]

I have them as:

The Lion King
A Few Good Men
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
The Incredibles
Armageddon
The Matrix
Seinfeld – The Susie

So I think elethiomel made a mistake.
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[Elethiomel]

Thanks for correcting me. So that makes the tropes, in order:

1, GILLIGAN CUT from The Lion King.
2. ARMOR-PIERCING QUESTION: From A Few Good Men.
3. BROWN NOTE from Monty Python And The Holy Grail.
4. MINIATURE SENIOR CITIZENS from The Incredibles.
5. PUTTING THE BAND BACK TOGETHER from Armageddon.
6. RED PILL, BLUE PILL from The Matrix.
7. FUNNY ANSWERING MACHINE, or maybe WEIRD AL EFFECT from Seinfeld - The Susie.

I thought the next step might be to find matching movies for each adjacent pair of tropes. But I'm struggling with that approach, even if I did find a couple:

Mystery Men = Gilligan Cut + Armor-Piercing Question
??? = Armor-Piercing Question + Brown Note
Mulholland Drive = Brown Note + Miniature Senior Citizens
??? = Miniature Senior Citizens + Putting The Band Back Together
??? = Putting The Band Back Together + Red Pill, Blue Pill
??? = Red Pill, Blue Pill + Funny Answering Machine / Weird Al Effect

[DejMar]

Scurra's:

1) LOUIS PRIMA IS COMING! HE'S NOT JUST SOME GUY, (he's famous!) - Secondo in Big Night
2) HEY LASER LIPS! YOUR MAMA WAS A SNOW BLOWER! - Johnny 5 in Short Circuit
3) (By the way,) I REALIZE I HAVE A LARGE MOLE ON MY FACE - Austin Powers in Goldmember
4) HELP! I THINK I'M MELTING! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT! - C-3PO in Star Wars
5) I'M GOING TO SHOW THEM (a) WORLD WITHOUT YOU. - Neo in The Matrix
6) OH YEAH, HAVE YOU EVER TRIED TO WIZZ STANDING UP? - Six LeMeure in Blossom: Driver's Education
7) JAPANESE PROVERB SAY, "BIRD NEVER MAKE NEST IN BARE TREE." - James Bond in You Only Live Twice
8) THEY SAY IT'S THE BIGGEST IN ALL THE KINGDOM - Tertius in Stardust
9) THAT WOULD BE TELLING. WE WANT INFORMATION... INFORMATION... INFORMATION. - Number Two in The Prisoner

---92-3-- 1st Doctor companion - Barbara White [Jacqueline Hill]
219------ 2nd Doctor companion - Victoria Waterfield [Deborah Watling]
----67--9 3rd Doctor companion - Jo Grant [Katy Manning]
-43-8---2 4th Doctor companion - Leela [Louise Jameson]
---1-6--- 5th Doctor companion - Nyssa [Sarah Sutton] (also companion to the 4th Doctor)
68--2-3-- 6th Doctor companion - Melanie "Mel" Bush [Bonnie Langford] (also companion to the 7th Doctor)
--5------ 7th Doctor companion - Dorothy "Ace" [Sophie Aldred]
---6-34-1 8th Doctor companion - Grace Holloway [Daphne Ashbrook]
8-------- 9th Doctor companion - Rose Tyler [Billie Piper] (also companion to the 10th Doctor)

[Scurra]

Clearly the sudoku does work in the order you have put it, but I am unsure as to why you have not put the squares in the order that the puzzle suggests. (Not that it matters, since you've got to the next stage but the words in the sudoku weren't arranged entirely randomly. )

You have some incorrect attributions in that list, but the references all look fine.
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[DejMar]

I corrected the one incorrectly attributed attribution. I also tried to explain the intended sequence of the Doctor Who companion Sudoku subgrids and the word sequence of the quotes.
I had initially solved the Sudoku by placing the Doctor Who companions in the sequence one finds them on a keypad:
789
456
123
and not in the intended sequence:
123
456
789

[Elethiomel]

Nice work solving Scurra's puzzle, and what a great puzzle!

I do see the answer, now that all the legwork is done.

[groza528]

Personally, I found Scurra's puzzle to be quite approachable, but it seemed to have too many disjointed steps. I did absolutely love the extraction method though.

Also, it still isn't obvious to me what trope(s) he's using (which isn't a bash-- my testsolvers said the same thing about my puzzle.) Can Scurra or someone else point that out for me?

[Scurra]

I actually thought the steps flowed relatively well (reconstruct sudoku, extract phrases from sudoku, deduce final message from quote sources), without many opportunities for blind alleys, so I'm not quite sure what you mean by "disjointed"? In one sense any puzzle with multiple stages is disjointed; for me the big issue on elegance is whether the stages have a reasonably clear logical sequence during solving. In my first round entry, the a-ha part of the puzzle came a lot earlier in the process and probably wasn't sufficiently clued by the puzzle; this time around I was a lot happier that I achieved my intent.

As for the trope, well, I accept that it isn't instantly apparent, although the title was a deliberate reference (and resulted in the first stage of the puzzle, even though that was an entirely different "Who"!) I admit that I didn't do my research properly and so failed to note that "Who are you?" is a trope heading as well!

Title and trope explanation: In the opening exchange of The Prisoner, one of the key questions is "Who are you?"; a later answer is, of course, "You are Number Six", which leads to the trope named as such, which discusses characters who are generally known by numbers rather than names - hence my using a number puzzle as the basis. Strictly, the Doctor isn't known by a number, but he is pretty universally referenced in that way. (Incidentally, I thought the final answer to my puzzle worked out nicely as a reference to both The Prisoner and The Doctor...!)

p.s. have to admit that I haven't looked at any GLer puzzles this week owing to it being the SUMS puzzlehunt (on which my team did about as well as we did a couple of week ago on CiSRA; only about half of them solved by the end.)
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[groza528]

I'm glad you explained that because it ties together much better now. I wasn't making the connection between numbered characters and the Doctor. That's mostly what I meant by disjoint; I didn't see that the Doctor Who and the numbered characters were at all related. Now that I do, I rescind that criticism-- I see the elegance I was overlooking.

[referee]

But what is the answer? Everyone is talking as if it's so obvious, so I must be blind or something.
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[Suspence]

I haven't worked on finding it yet, but the character behind each quote as a number in his/her name:

Secondo (Spanish for "second")
Johnny 5
The Mole/Number 3
C-3PO
Neo (The "One", I assume)
Six Lemure
Bond/007
Tertius (Latin for "third")
Number Two

I assume this is an index or order of some kind.
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[MNOWAX]

Round three : non-text based puzzles.

Scurra

Esme

Groza

Elethiomel
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[Suspence]

Esme's:

NIPPLE / _ _ _ / SPLIT / APE

HEEL / SIDE?

OGRE / _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / SPLIT / SIGNAL

PUCK / _ _ _ _ / WORMS / PECS / WORMS / SPLIT
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[groza528]

Esme's puzzle makes me think strongly of the Celt metapuzzle in sekkrets... we even used two of the same words!

[groza528]

Well gee, I didn't mean to kill discussion about it.
Tip for esme's: It is very important that the picture is "Worms" and not "Worm." Some of the other suggestions Suspence put in are not correct.

[Scurra]

Here's my stab at Esme's list:

Condom / Ski / Split / Ape
Heel / Side
Ogre / Kissing / Split / Batman
Puck / Worms / Worms / Split / ? / Pecs / Rho

...because they all seem to fit a pattern, although I'm blowed if I can see what the answer extraction is!
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[Elethiomel]

Esme's puzzle - they are holiday photos, indeed. Specifically, from:

Condom, France / Ski, Norway / Split, Croatia / Ape, Latvia
Heel, Netherlands / Side, Turkey
Ogre, Latvia / Kissing, Germany / Split, Croatia / Signal, Wyoming, US
Puck, Poland / Worms, Germany / Worms, Germany / Split, Croatia / Jade, Germany / Pecs, Hungary / Rho, Italy

[Scurra]

D'oh for the one I missed - it's obvious when I look at it again. (I hadn't stated what the link was in my post because I was hoping someone else would say that they thought the same without saying exactly what it was!)
But I disagree over one of your answers, because they all appear to be in Europe. (Not that my alternative is much better but it is at least in Europe.)
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[novice]

I think Esme's latest vacation was in Nice, France.

Explanation

[Elethiomel]

Nice!
(edited for spoiler tags) -grz

[novice]

So I had forgotten about these... Elethiomel's puzzle is about product placements in well known movies, apparently.

From top left to bottom right we have:

?/? - ?
L/W - The Thin Red Wine ( )
B/P - The Peach
E/K - The green milk
E/P - Dip Hard
D/K - A beautiful mink(?)
W/L - Nine and a half Leeks
B/F - Fridge over the river Kwai
U/I - Top Gin

The black circles with numbers on them should be solved as a game of Bridges. Preplacing bridges between the pairs indicated by the product placements, and then solving, yields:



I'm not sure if this is the final solution, or if there's more? Very nice puzzle either way.

[Elethiomel]

Well it's not entirely clear whether or not you've spotted what the final answer is. Either way, well solved (so far).

[esme]

Could we get the recent batch of puzzles?
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[MNOWAX]

Yes you can!

esme:

http://docs.google.com/document/d/1BEFncw5o5gB6gynbwVqGcEFTEmWPCJP4Wxqyv4jRxjw/edit

groza:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60252801/Top%20GL%27er/grz_TopGler4.pdf

Scurra:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/60252801/Top%20GL%27er/04%20meta%20crossword%20%28scurra%29.pdf
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[esme]

The flavor text of Professor Xrozas puzzle contains many words pertaining to keyboard keys (escape, control, tab, ...), the given solution words are:

Psychology/Chemistry: ASKER
Biology/Creative Writing: CLASHED
Literature/Civics: HATCH
Algebra/Home Economics: LIEN
Music/Physics: RADIO
Driver's Ed/Trigonometry: REDLINE
Geometry/Geography: TRIANGLES
Physical Education/Art: WELT

Now, words like ASKER and LIEN could easily be interpreted as question mark and hyphen respectively, but this does not work well for the other words.

Some word could also be interpreted as subwords or containing words of key names: ASKER is a subset of ASTERISK and CLASHED contains DASH.

The clue "Solve by the Numbers" might refer specifically to the symbols set above the numbers.
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[esme]

It is also possible to append some of the key names to the answer words:

ESCAPE HATCH
RADIO CONTROL

maybe
NUMBER TRIANGLES

This leaves:
CAPS, TAB, STOP, SINGLE QUOTE

and

ASKER, CLASHED, LIEN, REDLINE, WELT
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[esme]

As for Scurras puzzle, I found

Across 16: ALLY (ALLOY-O)
Across 30: ETHNIC (ET plus CHIN (anag))
Across 33: UNCLOTHE (HOT UNCLE (anag))
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