Clint Eastwood Mafia Game Over - Town Wins

[Jedo the Jedi]

Raearia, the game Zag and I recently mentioned is Heroes and Villains. Also, don't sweat too much about not posting as prolifically as the rest. They usually go easy and n00bs, and that's why Lifeinmomland nearly won her first game as scum.

I had a dream last night that we lynched Amb...
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[3iff]

Amb tends to lynch himself...

It's still unnervingly quiet here...Does MNO know he's in this game?

[Garou_Kinfolk]

MNOWAX posted in this thread last on October 15. The last post of his on the vacation thread was October 24 saying he'd have no access from Thursday to Sunday.

I agree that it is tempting to vote him so Snicklack doesn't have to worry about a replacement.
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[Jedo the Jedi]

[Jedo the Jedi]

Of course, when he posts an action in my Roll to Dodge game, everything I just said is nullified.

I think we have a winner here, folks. unvote; vote: MNOWAX
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[Garou_Kinfolk]

I'm actually a little surprised at Jedo for his last 2 posts. The differences between the two didn't hit me at first, but reading them a couple of times I had thought that he didn't post two questions to the mod that should have been asked before voting MNOWAX.

Mod: How many players are there on the replacement list?

and

Mod: Can you prod MNOWAX please if you haven't already? Thanks.

I'm going to hold my vote until after we get some kind of response.

Unvote
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[Leonidas]

MNOWAX posted yesterday in the off-topic thread ("Can you spot the fake smile?" thread). Either he's forgotten about this game altogether or he did not feel that posting here was required... Either way, I find this a little annoying.

unvote, vote: MNOWAX to put some more pressure.

[Jedo the Jedi]

Garou, for the first question, you go to the sign-up thread and see that the game barely got the number of players Snik wanted. I doubt there are replacements in a pool. Second, I feel like you are just giving MNO an out for when he does show back up. He knows the game is active because he's posted in here. He has a history of being a good contributor (read: not a flake), so the likelihood is that he is intentionally avoiding the thread.

And why did you feel the need to unvote 3iff while waiting for a response regarding MNO? I think we may be onto something with MNO, and I feel like Garou may be trying to distract.
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[spyrl]

[Garou_Kinfolk]

@Jedo: I know the game barely got off the ground, but someone may have PMed Sniklac about being a replacement and we wouldn't know it. Hence that question to him. As for MNOWAX posting here, looking at his ISO, the last time he posted was on October 15. The game started on the 24th. Hence why I asked for the prod. Him having posted in other threads is good to know. As for unvoting 3iff, I had initially done it as a joke vote. At this point I feel it is about time to start voting for real, atleast for me.
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[Jedo the Jedi]

Given that evidence, I could believe MNO didn't know the game had started except that he has posted multiple times in H&V Mafia. If he knows that game is over, he should either know this game has started or have checked its status. Either way, his absence currently reads intentional.
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Paragon Tally: 18 mafia, 3 SKs (1 twice), 1 cultist, numerous chat scum...and counting.

[MNOWAX]

Wow Holy shit you guys.

I was apparently in this game, I didn't realize it. I was too focused on H&V mafia ending.

First off, Vote: Jedo Seriously, I didn't even know I was in the game.

Second, lynch rather than replace? FOS Spyrl, 3iff, and Leo You guys trying to find your first Victim Lynchee scumlords?

I have to do a bit of a reading of the thread to catch up. More thoughts later.

Oh one thing I do agree with Jedo on, is that Lynchings of Amb will always be a priority in my book.
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MNOWAX

[MNOWAX]

[Jedo the Jedi]

[spyrl]

MNO, first, lets not be Mr. Word-twister, now shall we? The votes on you were to put pressure on a lurker (absentee) and get your attention, not an indication of lynching vs replacing. If you had read just a few posts above, you'd actually see where I specifically said "I would rather have an active MNO, or an active replacement, than to just lynch."

Second, how about we lynch all liars instead?

[Raearia]

Jedo: Thanks much! One day I will no longer be such a nooblet!

MNO I said it was tempting to lynch rather then replace as well. Every time I think of getting a replacement I think of Sentran's Game of Thrones game and how badly that went.

Also like others have pointed out, you confirmed and then didn't post even after the time frame you gave when you were not going to be available, not to mention posting in other forums on the site. While I can understand you may have forgotten, to flat out say you didn't know you were a part of this game is a stretch to believe when you confirmed.


I don't mind giving you a chance to really state your case when you have had a chance to catch up on the thread. For now FOS: MNO.
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[Amb]

Its funny that MNO wants to lynch me automatically, as my track record at getting him lynched has been very successful

[Sentran]

I'm watching MNO for anything further, but I don't see his actions (or lack thereof) as meaningful as the faux pas by Jedo. I'm good with my current vote.
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[MNOWAX]

[MNOWAX]

right off the bat i get strong town vibes from DP and Zag. I always think Amb is scummy as with Jedo, although this game i really suspect him.

Pushing me to lynch is quite scummy, i think, and honestly in a game of this size I wouldn't put it past seeing the entire lynch mob on me being scum driven. That's more conjecture than anything, but that's how i feel.
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[Zag]

It's been so long since MNO has been town, I've forgotten what he plays like when he is.

But this isn't it. FOS MNO.

[Jedo the Jedi]

[Sentran]

[Dragon Phoenix]

Mnowax gets added to the possibly scum pile for confirming and then "forgetting" he was in the game. Feeble at best, scum at worst.
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[MNOWAX]

[Jedo the Jedi]

Please, please, somebody vote MNO. I want to see him claim at L-3. Seriously, that screams like scum even more than before. You have only half of the necessary votes, and you are the first wagon of the day, which we know will fall apart as always. The fact that you are making such a big deal about this only adds to the suspicion.
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[Garou_Kinfolk]

[Raearia]

MNO you still have yet to give any reasonable arguments to your absence(excluding the time frame you said you would be gone). You are getting overly defensive over people finding your actions questionable. Saying if you get one more vote on you you are going to role claim? Is this just a ploy to call scum on the next person to vote you and feel you are justified in doing so?

Regardless of your post, I still gave you a chance to give really valid arguments for yourself and all you are doing is calling "BS" on people finding your actions questionable like I said earlier.

Vote MNO.
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[Jedo the Jedi]

[Jedo the Jedi]

And just so I can emphasize the ridiculousness of your argument even more, Garou, let me present your own post.

[Zag]

Sigh. I hate weighing in here, because someone will find it scummy and, if I'm wrong, I'm going to get tainted. But I see 'town' in both Jedo and MNO. (MNO only a little, though. I wouldn't be surprised to be wrong, there.)

In the last game I claimed early. Jedo calls this a scum tell, but when I did it it was because I was pissed off at what I felt was an unjust and over-the-top accusation. As for the original argument against MNO, he really IS scattershot enough to have confirmed and then forgotten that he was in. I do think that the timing of the notice that he'll be away was a little suspect, and I stick with my FOS of him for that. But If it were genuine, I can totally see the reaction afterwards being the same as my aggravation last game.

Garou then pointed out Jedo's "gaff" in which he goes ahead and pushes to force MNO to claim contrary to his own usual policy. For many players, I would agree with Garou and be voting for the player. But Jedo is way too careful, as scum, to have said anything like this. This is a bit of WIFOM, but if Jedo is really tricky enough to do something scummy, counting on one of us to point out that a scum-Jedo wouldn't do that, well, he deserves to have the tricky move work. But he wouldn't do that on purpose, I'm nearly certain, and, as I said, he wouldn't do it accidentally if he were scum.

[Jedo the Jedi]

[Amb]

I don't think MNO has posted anywhere enough for anyone to have even the slightest read. Unless he posts something like the Freudian slip that Jedo made (which is normally enough to chain-react on day 1 ) then I wouldn't be inclined to say he was anything in particular.

Anyway

[Garou_Kinfolk]

@MNOWAX: Were you prodded by the mod?

@Jedo: The mod has had 2 days to respond. He has not. He also has not posted that he'd be gone for any length of time. This makes me think he may have prodded MNOWAX and thought your answer to my question was enough not to warrant an response that echoed it. Then again he may just be letting the game move with minimal mod interaction. In either case I feel good with where my vote currently rests. Also, as a mod, have you ever been away for more then a day without posting it to your players, or been in a game where that happened?
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[Zag]

[Jedo the Jedi]

You know what, Amb and Garou, I can handle your accusations. I think most people realize that they aren't well-grounded in the facts. It appears neither of you are actually reading my posts for comprehension, and I daresay you are both suffering from confirmation bias. If you don't understand the rhetoric, I'll be happy to provide a better explanation.

For now, I don't see why either of you finds MNO scummy. His story doesn't add up, he didn't respond to people's requests for clarification, and has said he will claim at L-3 of the first Day 1 wagon. I guess I shouldn't be surprised you don't find that suspicious considering the things you are "finding" against me.

Zag, I didn't realize it was a simulpost because the time markers we more than ten minutes apart. My apologies.
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[Amb]

[Jedo the Jedi]

[Raearia]

Amb I am trying to follow your logic.

You are talking about Jedo becoming irate with bandwagons when he himself instigates them correct?

Because what I am seeing is Jedo said he becomes irate over people pushing for power role claims. To my understanding bandwagons and role claim pushes are two separate entities, or did I misunderstand and they are actually one in the same?
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[MNOWAX]

Since someone did vote for me I'm claiming.

I'm the Town Roleblocker.

Yes i was proded by the mod.

Jedo I Don't Bluff. Even Zag knows this.
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