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gftt*
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:33 am    Post subject: 321

The fifth is also somewhat tricky. Must distinguish between holding and simply loading up for a throw of a cauliflower...

 Code: siteswap numbers: 451H3531333333... object thrown:    AMCCACMAAMCAMC... A = apricot?, C = cauliflower, M = mango Displayed numeral: 7
gftt
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:45 am    Post subject: 322

 Code: siteswap numbers: 451H3531333333... object thrown:    AMCCACMAAMCAMC... A = apricot?, C = cauliflower, M = mango Displayed numeral: 7

If we index into the thrown object (using H = 2) for the first eight throws we get
IOCARINA... hmm.

 Code: siteswap numbers: 441333441333333... object thrown:    WOGGWOGWOOGWOGW... W = ocarina, G = garlic, O = onion Displayed numeral: 5

ROGRAILRO
Grail is 5 letters and could be the goblet thingy.

 Code: siteswap numbers: 561141441333333... object thrown:    GZLLLGGZLLGZLGZ... G = grail, L = lemon, Z = zucchini Displayed numeral: 3

LILLOGICL

Unfortunately LOGIC is 5 letters not 3. Let's use it anyway.

 Code: siteswap numbers: 34H336HH2333333... object thrown:    PCBPBCPBPBPCBPC... P = peach/nectarine, C = logic, B = billiard/pool ball Displayed numeral: 6

Using Billiard Ball as the B, Peach as the P:

AIIAL... uh-oh, LOGIC only has 5 letters not 6. Maybe try ILLOGIC?

 Code: siteswap numbers: 34H336HH2333333... object thrown:    PCBPBCPBPBPCBPC... P = peach/nectarine, C = illogic, B = billiard/pool ball Displayed numeral: 6

AOIALIEIE. Unhelpful. Maybe it's a nectarine?
COICLIEIE. No good. At least there are some consonants. Try pool ball?
COOCOIEOE. Blech. Trying Pool ball/peach....
AOOAOIEOE. Even worse.

Maybe it's peach and one-ball?
AONAEIENE. Yuck. Back to nectarine...
CONCEIENE. Hmm. If I reinterpret the nectarine hold/2-throw as a 4 then it becomes CONCEITN.

 Code: siteswap numbers: 44146131333333... object thrown:    LPTTLPPTTPLTPL... L = conceit, P = potato, T = tennis ball Displayed numeral: 4

CATNIPTT

Call in CATNIP? Not clear what the numerals are for, though.
gftt
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:55 am    Post subject: 323 or maybe.... 7 OCARINA = A 5 GRAIL = L 3 ILLOGIC = L 6 CONCEIT = I 4 CATNIP = N Call in ALL IN (I thought doing this indexing earlier, but didn't realize ALLIN could be broken up until now!)
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:03 am    Post subject: 324 Neither ALL IN nor CATNIP are the correct solutions, though I'm still very impressed so far._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
gftt*
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 3:37 am    Post subject: 325

 Suspence wrote: Neither ALL IN nor CATNIP are the correct solutions, though I'm still very impressed so far.

Dang it, you'd think one of those would be correct!

I am out of ideas at this point. Anyone else?
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:16 am    Post subject: 326 Not sure how HQ would have handled this; I don't think they'd be so kind, but ALL IN is on the right path, and is part (half, really) of the final solution reveal._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
L'lanmal
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 12:52 pm    Post subject: 327 We have: Iocarina (7) ROgrailRO (5) LillogicL (3) conceitN (6) catnipTT (4) Index into full words = ALL IN. Unused letters in connection order: IROROLLNTT (or IROLNT) In display order: LTRONI Substitute CATNIP for one of the three objects in (7) and repeat?
gftt*
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:26 pm    Post subject: 328

 L'lanmal wrote: Substitute CATNIP for one of the three objects in (7) and repeat?

If you substitute CATNIP for CAULIFLOWER you still get IOCARINA since CA and I are the letters used from CAULIFLOWER and they appear in the same spots in CATNIP. Interesting... but what to do with it?
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: 329 If it's any consolation, I've read the solution 5 times, and still have no idea where the rest of it comes from. I'd love to hint, but I honestly don't know how._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 2:06 pm    Post subject: 330 Reading up on this puzzle, it looks like it went nearly unsolved (only 3 teams got it) and the setters had some regrets. Here's what they said, perhaps it's a clue in the right direction, though it's still beyond me: Of course, the puzzle has major problems.. Originally the videos were going to form a cycle instead of a chain (by replacing CAULIFLOWER with CATNIP). This would have made for a very interesting solving structure, because you might have no video at first for which you could correctly identify all the objects, and you'd have to sort of backsolve your way into it. On the other hand, maybe that would have made trickier to figure out the mechanism. Anyway, a cycle would have probably better clued that you should repeat the pattern for extraction, except that we realized that with a cycle you would not necessarily know where to start, so we made it a chain. But then you really needed prior experience with siteswaps to solve this, because you needed to know to repeat the pattern, which is common for juggling in reality, but had not occurred in the puzzle up to that point. And even if not for that, we should have known that was a bad idea. Only 3 or 4 teams solved this puzzle, and I suspect many more got most of the way through and stuck on extraction. That's the best way to take a good puzzle idea and make people hate it, which we seem to have done. There's a way to do this puzzle much better, but by the time we realized that it was broken, there was no way we had time to construct a new version, assemble all the objects, and get Darin to juggle them. I've heard a number of people say that they'd always wanted to do a siteswap puzzle, and I feel like we let all of them down by having a good idea for one and then screwing it up.._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
gftt*
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 4:34 pm    Post subject: 331 OK, so maybe repeat the siteswap pattern in a cycle a la juggling means treat the numbers as siteswap numbers and juggle these things? 1. 7 OCARINA = A 2. 5 GRAIL = L 3. 3 ILLOGIC = L 4. 6 CONCEIT = I 5. 4 CATNIP = N 6. 7 illogic comes down in this place = C 7. 5 grail comes down in this place = L 8. 3 ocarina comes down in this place = A 9. 6 catnip comes down in this place = P 10. 4 conceit comes down in this place = C 11. 7 ocarina again = A 12. 5 grail again = L 13. 3 illogic again =L etc ALLINCLAPCALLINCLAPCALLINCLAPC...
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 5:09 pm    Post subject: 332 CLAP is correct. Next, another video puzzle: Bio Man: Life of the Party - http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/11/puzzles/mega_man/life_of_the_party/_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:09 pm    Post subject: 333 1) Guy who eats too many desserts (14 of them) 2) Guy allowing another to punch him in the gut 3) Girl banging staff on the ground to music 4) Hair in a glass of milk 5) Girl swings baseball bat twice 6) Guy laughing as other guy eats something (a brussel sprout?) 7) Sleeping guy gets coats piled on top of him 8) Charles In Charge on TV 9) Girl laughs when she is told they made a sequel of something 10) Guy pointing toy gun at himself 11) Guy swallowing a toothpick 11 vignettes in the movie clip 10 spaced lines under the clip_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 7:18 pm    Post subject: 334 #2 made me think of Houdini, which led me to this: 1) 1771: Adolf Frederick, King of Sweden, died of digestion problems on 12 February 1771 after having consumed a meal of lobster, caviar, sauerkraut, smoked herring and champagne, topped off with 14 servings of his favourite dessert: hetvägg served in a bowl of hot milk. He is thus remembered by Swedish schoolchildren as "the king who ate himself to death." 2) 1926: Harry Houdini, the famous American escape artist, was punched in the stomach by an amateur boxer. Though this had been done with Houdini's permission, complications from this injury may have caused him to die days later, on October 31, 1926. It was later determined that Houdini died of a ruptured appendix, though it is contested as to whether or not the punches actually caused the appendicitis. 3) 1687: Jean-Baptiste Lully, the French composer, died of a gangrenous abscess after piercing his foot with a staff while he was vigorously conducting a Te Deum. It was customary at that time to conduct by banging a staff on the floor. 4) 212: Lucius Fabius Cilo, a Roman senator of the 2nd century, "...choked...by a single hair in a draught of milk" 5) 1862: Jim Creighton, a very early baseball player, died when he swung a bat too hard and injured himself, possibly by rupturing his bladder. 6) 207 BC: Chrysippus, a Greek stoic philosopher, is believed to have died of laughter after giving his donkey wine then seeing it attempt to eat figs 7) c. 620 BC: Draco, Athenian law-maker, was smothered to death by gifts of cloaks showered upon him by appreciative citizens at a theatre on Aegina. 8-9) 1660: Thomas Urquhart, Scottish aristocrat, polymath and first translator of Rabelais into English, is said to have died laughing upon hearing that Charles II had taken the throne. 10) ??? 11) 1941: Sherwood Anderson, writer, died of peritonitis after swallowing a toothpick at a party_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Suspence
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:03 pm    Post subject: 335

 Code: adolffredericK harryhoudIni jeanbaptisteluLly luciusfabiusciLo jimcrEighton chRysippus draCo thOmasurquhart ??? sherwooDanderson

KILLER CO?D

EDIT: 1871: Clement Vallandigham, a lawyer and Ohio politician, was demonstrating how a victim may possibly have shot himself while drawing a weapon from a kneeling position when he shot himself in the process. Though the defendant, Thomas McGehan, was ultimately cleared, Vallandigham died from his wound.

Call in KILLER COLD
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Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:07 pm    Post subject: 336 Correct. Next up: The Eternal Struggle - http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/11/puzzles/mega_man/the_eternal_struggle/_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
gftt*
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 Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2012 8:24 pm    Post subject: 337 Seems like we are to backsolve the past positions of the Game of Life. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conway%27s%5FGame%5Fof%5FLife Also seems hard...
gftt*
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gftt*
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 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:23 pm    Post subject: 339 My approach is slow and painstaking. If nobody else is really thinking about this puzzle I'd move on.
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

 Posted: Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:19 pm    Post subject: 340 I'd guess a computerized approach would be best here. Not something I have time for atm. I'm fine with moving on.
gftt*
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 Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 10:49 pm    Post subject: 341 I'm fairly certain I've made an error somewhere and painted myself into a dead end. Let's move on. I might come back to this at some point, or I might not.
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:57 pm    Post subject: 342 OK, moving on. Perhaps we'll be able to backsolve that last one. It might be tough though, since the Bio Man meta only incorporates 5 puzzles. Next up is: Bio Man: Pesky Bugs - http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/11/puzzles/mega_man/pesky_bugs/_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
gftt*
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 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:50 pm    Post subject: 343 Heh. I got nothing; maybe I'll stick to thinking about the previous puzzle for now.
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:36 pm    Post subject: 344 I've got no ideas whatsoever on Pesky Bugs. Where has SuperSlug gone?_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 5:28 pm    Post subject: 345 I have some ideas on this one, but not the tools to implement them. I suspect that you'll want to open it in some reasonably professional sound manipulation tool and probably slow it way down, and perhaps phase shift it. I suspect that there is something to hear, but currently it is too high for humans to hear it, and slowing it down will bring it into audible range.
Suspence
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 Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2013 9:19 pm    Post subject: 346 Started trying that in Sound Recorder when I first say it, didn't seem promising, but that doesn't mean there is nothing there. I don't have real tools either._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Suspence
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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:05 pm    Post subject: 347 Crickets in here for quite some time. Let's move on - I tried to find a puzzle that looks like we could make instant progress on to gain momentum in Blackberry Man. Next up: Blackberry Man - The Least You Could Do Is Phone Me - http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/11/puzzles/mega_man/the_least_you_could_do_is_phone_me/_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
Suspence
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 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:14 pm    Post subject: 348 Place at which we're sitting right now Slide downhill, in a way One of the goals of an Olympic athlete When many an avenger has laughed What commuters may cram into during rush hour Things available in jewelry stores MEAL - End of a fast WORM - English word cognate with Latin vermis PREY - Mouse, e.g., to a snake What a whale uses to propel itself through the water YE? - Second-person pronoun that's not much used now Equipment used in the episode "A Clue for Scooby Doo" SLOT - Slim opening STOP - Step on the brake pedal SNOOP - Try to learn someone's secrets MATZOH - Type of bread which Jesus might have described to Peter as "my body" What one might stoke with coal or wood Ingredient in many cannoli recipes Travel away from home WIN - Score one more point than your opponent, e.g. LIVER - Too much liquor might damage it TERM - Elected official's time in office Where you might see lions and llamas Hannibal Lecter, e.g. PORT - Part of a computer where a peripheral device can be plugged in ROGER - Famous Dodger Stadium "peanut man" Owens LICE - Creatures you wouldn't like to find in your hair_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.Last edited by Suspence on Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
Zag
Unintentionally offensive old coot

 Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2013 6:35 pm    Post subject: 349 I was going to suggest that they could all be 4-letter words, but 'ROGER' is clearly correct, so that isn't it. Place at which we're sitting right now SKI - Slide downhill, in a way GOLD, MEDAL, RECORD - One of the goals of an Olympic athlete When many an avenger has laughed TRAM, SUBWAY, TRAIN - What commuters may cram into during rush hour GEMS, JEWELRY - Things available in jewelry stores MEAL, FEAST - End of a fast WORM - English word cognate with Latin vermis PREY - Mouse, e.g., to a snake TAIL - What a whale uses to propel itself through the water YE? THOU, THEE - Second-person pronoun that's not much used now SCUBA - Equipment used in the episode "A Clue for Scooby Doo" See this SLOT - Slim opening STOP - Step on the brake pedal SNOOP, SPY - Try to learn someone's secrets MATZOH, PITA - Type of bread which Jesus might have described to Peter as "my body" FIRE - What one might stoke with coal or wood RICOTTA - Ingredient in many cannoli recipes LEAVE, EMMIGRATE - Travel away from home WIN - Score one more point than your opponent, e.g. LIVER - Too much liquor might damage it TERM - Elected official's time in office ZOO, MENAGERIE, Where you might see lions and llamas CANNIBAL, SERIAL KILLER - Hannibal Lecter, e.g. PORT - Part of a computer where a peripheral device can be plugged in ROGER - Famous Dodger Stadium "peanut man" Owens LICE - Creatures you wouldn't like to find in your hair
Suspence
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 Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:51 pm    Post subject: 350 Any further thoughts on this one? I'm not seeing any connections._________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
SuperSlug
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Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:26 pm    Post subject: 351

 Suspence wrote: Where has SuperSlug gone?

To the in-law's where there is no internet.

The Eternal Struggle work is on the spreadsheet.

Call in CREEPING INFECTION
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Suspence
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 Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:16 pm    Post subject: 352 Nice work, that is correct. These are the currently open puzzles in the thread: Bio Man: Pesky Bugs - http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/11/puzzles/mega_man/pesky_bugs/ Blackberry Man - The Least You Could Do Is Phone Me - http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/11/puzzles/mega_man/the_least_you_could_do_is_phone_me/_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
SuperSlug
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 Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:29 pm    Post subject: 353 Sounds (not letters) H-W HERE - Place at which we're sitting right now E-II SLED - Slide downhill, in a way D-Z GOLD - One of the goals of an Olympic athlete S-F LAST- When many an avenger has laughed T-C TRAM - What commuters may cram into during rush hour R-TH RINGS - Things available in jewelry stores EE-A FEAST - End of a fast M-D WORM - English word cognate with Latin vermis A-AA SNACK - Mouse, e.g., to a snake T-W TAIL - What a whale uses to propel itself through the water TH-N THOU - Second-person pronoun that's not much used now A-Y SCUBA - Equipment used in the episode "A Clue for Scooby Doo" See this T-M SLIT - Slim opening O-E STOP - Step on the brake pedal P-T PRY - Try to learn someone's secrets A-ER PITA - Type of bread which Jesus might have described to Peter as "my body" V-K STOVE - What one might stoke with coal or wood - Ingredient in many cannoli recipes R-H ROAM - Travel away from home I-UH WIN - Score one more point than your opponent, e.g. V-K LIVER - Too much liquor might damage it ER-II TERM - Elected official's time in office Z-Y ZOO - Where you might see lions and llamas C-H CANNIBAL - Hannibal Lecter, e.g. O-A PORT - Part of a computer where a peripheral device can be plugged in R-D ROGER - Famous Dodger Stadium "peanut man" Owens S-K LICE - Creatures you wouldn't like to find in your hair HED STREEM AT THA TOP AV - RIVERZ CORS HEAD STREAM AT THE TOP OF A RIVERS COURSE SOURCE Call in SOURCE Can't do pesky bugs here because the audio is not working._________________Some people are lost in the shuffle. I'm shuffling along with the lost.
SuperSlug
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 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:10 am    Post subject: 354 Mega Man - Bio Man Meta Find the scientific name of the causitive agent of each disease 1. FIERY SERPENT - Dracunculus medinensis 2. CLAP - Neisseria gonorrhoeae 3. KILLER COLD - Adenoviridae 4. CREEPING INFECTION - Strongyloidiasis stercoralis 5. D N Ade Stro --- DNA Destroyer Call in DNA DESTROYER ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Back solve for Pesky Bugs: I put the wav file into a program that shows it has 6 tracks. Yersinia pestis = Bubonic plauge Call in PLAUGE_________________Some people are lost in the shuffle. I'm shuffling along with the lost.
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 8:16 am    Post subject: 355 *PLAGUE Impressive work, SuperSlug.
Suspence
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:59 pm    Post subject: 356 All correct. Next up: Blackberry Man: Expletive Deleted - http://www.mit.edu/~puzzle/11/puzzles/mega_man/expletive_deleted/_________________I hate people who try to write interesting things in their signature.
SuperSlug
Daedalian Member

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 3:51 pm    Post subject: 357

 novice wrote: *PLAGUE Impressive work, SuperSlug.

Obviously, I STILL can't type.
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SuperSlug
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 Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: 358 JINKIES - Velma Dinkley (Scooby Doo) ZOINKS - Shaggy Rogers (Scooby Doo) SILFLAY HRAKA - rabbit language (Lapine) from Watership Down SMEGHEAD - Arnold Rimmer (Red Dwarf) GORRAM - Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds (Firefly) MEP - Beldar (Coneheads) SMURFING - Grouchy Smurf (Smurfs) B'ZUGDA HIARA - Dwarvish from Discworld series CROM - Conan FRAKKING - Commander Adama (Battlestar Galactica) SHAZBOT - Mork (Mork and Mindy) MUDBLOOD - Draco Malfoy (Harry Potter series)_________________Some people are lost in the shuffle. I'm shuffling along with the lost.
gftt*
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 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:52 am    Post subject: 359 Maybe each caption mentions a symbol which then gets translated to a letter via the cryptogram? eg Shaggy says POUND = # = E Rimmer says TIMES = * = I Conan says POWER = ^ = D Mork says MOON = crescent symbol = O but I'm not sure if there are any others. It doesn't help that some of the symbols are hard to make out.
novice
No harm. Pun intended!

 Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:43 am    Post subject: 360 I think you're on to something. P/F - KNIFE/Tragedy(RIP) - JINKIES - Velma Dinkley (Scooby Doo) E - POUND - ZOINKS - Shaggy Rogers (Scooby Doo) H - SHOCK - SILFLAY HRAKA - rabbit language (Lapine) from Watership Down I - TIMES - SMEGHEAD - Arnold Rimmer (Red Dwarf) C - BUCK - GORRAM - Malcolm "Mal" Reynolds (Firefly) K/D - NOT - MEP - Beldar (Coneheads) A/L - SMOKING - SMURFING - Grouchy Smurf (Smurfs) R/H/F - AT/STUNNING/FOND MEMORIES(RIP) - B'ZUGDA HIARA - Dwarvish from Discworld series D/Z - POWER - CROM - Conan B - MOD - FRAKKING - Commander Adama (Battlestar Galactica) O - MOON - SHAZBOT - Mork (Mork and Mindy) S - AND - MUDBLOOD - Draco Malfoy (Harry Potter series) PEHICKARDBOS
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