WSU IS&T 1100 Week 8-9

[xcrystalheartx]

I agree with Chocolate. I think the most important thing is that we all need to stand in support with our troops. We don't want them to think they are fighting for nothing. I hope that we are doing the right thing, I am not 100% if this is it, but I hope so.

[kys]

I agree that "something" is going to happen. It just seems to me that Saddam has been working on that "something" and his chance is finally here to use it. If it wasn't for war, we wouldn't be living how we do today. We are able to live in this county and have our freedom because of war. So I'm keeping an optimistic look on this war to hopefully only improve the way we live and to improve our communications with other countries. Some of you may think I'm dumb because I'm in support of the war, but I'm not going to hide and I'm going to say how I feel. GO USA!!

[Spanglish]

I had a thought the other day as I argued with an anti-war type person. They were saying that we are in it because of oil and all the money that we can make from liberating them when we all know that that is crap. We are going to turn over those oil fields to iraq so that they can rebuild their country. Then I thought about it again, what are we really getting out of it? The reason we are doing it is so that others can have freedom. Obviously they wont have the same level of freedom as us right away but its a start and thats what we are fighting for. I think its poor that there are people in this country that are so selfish that they think we are fighting for something other than the right reasons. I also dont understand how people can say that they support the troops but at the same time be causing civil disruption in the states. What sort of support is that? I say, if you dont like it, move to Canada. America is for Americans, we defend what is right, if you dont like it, get out.

[Beartalon]

Originally posted by Spanglish:

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we defend what is right, if you dont like it, get out

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So people that don't agree with your standard of "right" cease to have the right to call themselves American?

And, no, don't send your ex-patriates to Canada. We don't all agree with our government's stand on this war. We are not all pacifists.

Actually, most of us didn't have a choice in the matter, but those who voted our Parliament members into their government offices certainly have a right to oppose what the Parliament does. After all, they represent us. So then, if Parliament acts against people's wishes, we have a right to freedom of expression, and no-one will ever win the argument that freedom of expression can only be within the dictates of government as you seem to uphold.

Maybe someday, you'll find yourself on the other side of this argument, and you'll wonder why people don't like it when you express your opinion against the government's choices, and you'll argue "freedom of expression".

[kys]

right on spanglish, right on

[allstate]

Just submitting my essay, one last comment, if Saddam could launch a nuclear bomb at us he would, if he could harm us in any way possible, he would. Heck I feel he needs to be taken out soley because he has killed thousands in his own coutry. He is the next to worst on the the terrorist list and NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT. North Korea is a concern, but I fully support America's leaders choice in the plan by using China and Russia to help dismantle the growing problem if not slow it down.

[GUITARPRO#1]

Politics and Web

[GUITARPRO#1]

Ok- I found my information,

Here is an example of how the internet is a tool for political views
A few days ago a group of hackers known as The Freedom Cyberforce Malitia broke into an internet provider (I think Networld) located right here in Utah and used it to change the aljazeera networks home page. They roughted every visitor of the page to an American flag including other stuff on the page. The provider recieved many complaints and shut it all down. Consiquently the hackers routed many people to hit on their network clogging their systems in retaliation. Other hackers have put burning American flags on other sites including some government sites. T.V. reported the obvious that this could have been done from anywhere in the world and the hacker would probably never be caught.

[Isolder74]

To those who say that Bush didn't give the UN a chance....

The UN did nothing the first time Saddam threw out the Inspectors when they started to find things. At the time our President was Bill Clinton and he barely raised a protest. Saddam has defied the world community for years now. He has voilated the terms of the ceasefire after the Gulf War. trufully the Gulf War never ended it simply stopped.

[Beebs]

I would have to agree with allstate and lsolder74. we have put up with saddams crap for way too long and it is time we do something about it. There are alot of people over in Iraq that are suffering and dying because of the horrible torture Saddam has put them through. No human deserves to be treated that way.

[Kerioth]

On a separate note: A few days ago I received an e-mail that made me wonder whether technology was having a positive or negative effect on my family.

The e-mail was from my mother, sent to myself and my siblings. She had found an old diary of hers about the house and wanted to share the experience with us. I was very happy to be able to read about this, but I found it sad that she had to let all of us know by e-mail, since I am the only one currently living away from home.

Every child now owns their own computer; half bought personally, the other half gifts. Excepting mine (since it's up here at Weber with me) the computers live in one room together, all networked and loudly humming away.

Is this the ideal of a technologically based family, or one that is drawing apart from one another via the net?

[karrots]

What Kerioth brought up is an interesting note. At my house my dad emails me all the time (I live at home) but usually its when he is at work and I am at school. Even then mostlly its just URLs for me to check out. But what I wanted to bring up is technology and our obsession with it has definately changed the way we communicate.

While at work a few weeks ago I was talking to a woman who had AIM on her work computer. She was telling me the only thing she uses it for is to communicate with her son when he is home on the computer blocking the phoneline. It was interesting because I had never thought about how we end up inadertanly blocking ways of communicating and then we must adapt. I guess it was a little shocking because I neve thought about blocking the phone as I have Broadband now and had a second line ever sense AOL put the World Wide Web into their services (I was a big BBSer before then but not enough to warrant a second line).

I am amazed at how adaptive we are as human beings. My CS teacher last semester said many times easier to adapt ourself than to adapt our computers.

Karrots

[chocolate]

With our capability to email everyone, we seem to have lost the art of writing letters. I certainly use email alot because it is so much faster. But I think we are missing out on true letter writing. Reading a hand written letter from a friend or loved one is much more personal than a cold email. We are losing the "personal" touch by emailing instead of writing a letter or picking up the phone to personally speak with someone. This technology is progress, but we lose a lot to gain some.

[allstate]

It might be a little late, but Im interested to know everyone's opinions on the gender issue, is it nature or nurture? I believe both are influencing factors, but honestly, I tend to lean towards the nature side of things. Yes men can do things women can't and vice versa-


(especially on the issue of computers being dominated by men)

[This message has been edited by allstate (edited 04-06-2003 10:21 PM).]

[GUITARPRO#1]

I believe that nature and nurture are too close to say one has more weight than the other. I would also like to point out an interesting point with our weapons in war. I have read a few articles and watched some news reports on the technology in our war, it is amazing. Our weapons are so accurate now but the thing that constantly stays the same is human error. You may be able to hit within so many feet of where the bomb is programed to hit and it is 100% accurate but if someone programs the wrong coordinates in than the whole situation goes down hill. The bomb is still accurate, only to the wrong coordinates. Technology is also involved in politics as far as the exchange of technologies to aid in war from country to country.

[firemeboy]

Sorry, didn't start a new weeks topic. My bad. I will do so now.