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TANSTAAFL
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:15 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

I know, I've been around here long enough that I shouldn't be asking for help with my homework, but I can't make it to the Professor's office hours due to my work schedule, and the book doesn't go over any problems this complex.

We are working on parametric equations, here is what the problem says

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Consider the curve C parametrized by:

x = (t2+1)/(t2-1)
y = (2t)/(t2-1)
for all t in (-infinity,-1)U(-1,1)U(1,infinity)

By squaring both x and y, find an equation of C in terms of just x and y (no t):

_______ - ______ = 1



So I squared each side, but I still don't see how I can solve for t in terms of x or y in order to find the equation.

I'm not asking for someone to give me the answer, but maybe point me in the right direction?
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Lilifreid
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:27 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

Try looking at the new terms to see what you can do to/with them to get rid of the t's. If that doesn't make sense, post what you got when squaring them (or IM me).
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TANSTAAFL
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2004 10:34 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

figures, i was trying to hard... I just had to look at the fill in the blank equation she gave us a little harder.

x2-y2=1

I kept thinking I had to add the two terms, not subtract.

[This message has been edited by TANSTAAFL (edited 02-09-2004 05:34 PM).]
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Beartalon
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:26 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

(but when t=1 or t=-1, this equation will not equal 1)
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:32 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

(One would assume that that is why the range was described as "for all t in (-infinity,-1)U(-1,1)U(1,infinity)", wouldn't one.)
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Beartalon
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:34 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

(apparently, one should wonder why he didn't read that the first time, wouldn't one? Some one didn't, and now every one knows)
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 3:40 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

Actually, I didn't understand why the range was described that way when I first looked at the problem, and never bothered to consider why after puzllling with it for a bit. It wasn't until you pointed it out that I understood. I thought (-infinity,-1) would include -1. Silly me.

[This message has been edited by Quailman (edited 02-11-2004 10:40 AM).]
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TANSTAAFL
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:18 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

yeah, (a,b) is the range between but not including a and b. [a,b] is the notation my class uses for when the range includes the points a and b.
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Beartalon
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:19 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

It's the standard notation, which I forgot after several years. Silly me too.

[This message has been edited by Beartalon (edited 02-11-2004 12:19 PM).]
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 5:31 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

You use letters for math. Funny men! http://members.cox.net/samadhi69/dope.gif
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dethwing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:10 pm    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

Most people use ]a,b[ to mean open intevals. (a,b) looks like an ordered pair to me.
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mith
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:29 pm    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

Most people?

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OpenInterval.html
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Quailman
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:42 pm    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

You think that just because you saw it on the internet, it must be true?
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zeek
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 7:48 pm    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

I've always seen the (a,b) notation too. I've never seen the ]a,b[ notation.

If you really want to stick with using brackets, this might make more sense:
[a,b] when a & b are in the interval.
a],[b when they are outside the interval.
[a,[b when a is inside and b is outside.
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dethwing
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:20 pm    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

*shrug* Makes more sense to me.
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Mercuria
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 9:39 pm    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

... i've never seen ]a,b[ either... always (a, b)

there's always been discrepency about using a bracket or a parenthesis next to infinity, though...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 11, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

We were taught [] for closed interval and () for open interval ~shrug~
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