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mith
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:06 am    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

Currently I can not:

Copy/Paste from or to IE
Open any links from the GL that are not on the GL itself (possibly the same for any other site, I haven't tested it extensively)
Open windowsupdate. It says Done at me, and is getting *something* (as I can see when I view source), but it's not appearing.
I get random javascript errors quite often, particularly when I try to look at the properties for an image or link or whatever.
Yahoo email has gone all funny (looks like the style sheets have gotten turned off or something)
Various cgi issues. In particular, the annoying one for the moment, I can't view the Private Threads. I put in my password, and it just takes me right back to the password page (possibly a cookie issue).

I thought it might be a virus, so I downloaded AVG (it's free). It didn't find anything. Any ideas?
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MacadamiamaN
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:21 am    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

Reformat.
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Ghost Post
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:25 am    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

What version of Windows?
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Gomez
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:28 am    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Commiserations dude, I've got computer problems too. For some reason my browser isn't displaying any jpeg's, gifs, photo's or picture links. It only stopped doing this today and I installed a popup blocker today as well. Could the too be connected?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 2:50 am    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

It sounds like your problems are around your browser. Did you try another browser besides IE? I use Mozilla. Opera is good too. Both Opera and Mozilla are free downloads. I'm usually afraid to use IE since I know a lot of nasty intrusive things on the web are designed to exploit holes in IE. Also Mozilla and Opera have built-in pop-up blockers which is nice, especially for me since I have a normal(slow?) 56k modem at home.
Opera also has a feature where you can have it not download pictures unless you request them with a mouse. I use that sometimes since it's another good way to save valuable bandwidth.

Gomez - did that pop-up blocker come with a feature to disable automatic pix? If so, it may be why you don't have pictures. There might be a configuration item to fix that.

mith - sorry, but I don't know much about IE.
You could always reformat. Hehe.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:33 am    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

Mozilla Foxfire... just plain sweet

http://www.mozilla.org/download.html
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extropalopakettle
No offense, but....



PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 4:38 am    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

http://www.greylabyrinth.com/Forums/Forum7/HTML/005979.html (relevant?)

Have you tried Spybot? If not, try it, and make sure to download updates before scanning.

In the past I've had the copy-paste problem, sporadically. Don't know the cause or if it's gone now for good.

The windows update thing sounds suspicious - some spyware or malicious code in general will try to block access to fixes to whatever vulnerability they exploit.

As for pop-up blockers, I trust the one on google toolbar: http://toolbar.google.com/
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 9:16 am    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

(mechanised voice #1):You have a
(mechanised voice #2):blaster worm
(mechanised voice #1):variant. For removal insructions/tools, go to
(mechanised voice #2):www.symantec.com
(mechanised voice #1):or wait on aim for
(mechanised voice #2):Antrax.
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mith
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:04 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

I figured it was something like that, Ant. Stupidly, I trusted my dad's latest free AV advice rather than getting a real fix.

I do have Spybot, extro, but thanks anyway.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:33 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

Sombody who generally gives good advice on these things recommended AVG to me. Let us know if it actually failed to catch a virus. I bought NAV a couple of times, but I have too many computers (and different platforms) to pay annual update fees for.

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Antrax
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:46 pm    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

<-- has free NAV from his university. However, I don't really recommend it, it's a memory hog, albeit an effective one
Antrax

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2004 1:52 pm    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

Have you tried honking your horn at it?
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mith
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:44 pm    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

Now the mouse is being laggish.

So far I have run an online AV scan (whatever the first one is on google). Nothing. Ran the Fix Netsky thing from symantec. Nothing. Tried to install the free version of Norton. Nothing on pre-scan, failed to install.
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mith
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:45 pm    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

Oh, and extro, the dad advice *was* AVG.
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

Yeah, these all yell "blaster". But it's very odd an antivirus doesn't find anything...
Go to DOS prompt, and do "netstat -a". Post the results here.
Antrax

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mith
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:02 pm    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

Will as soon as I get home. Any chance you'll be around then? (It won't be til 5:30 or so my time, so midnightish for you)
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extropalopakettle
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 2:09 pm    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

Somewhat off tangent, but (and I'm sure some here know about this already) a great site for some great free utilities (source code too) to figure out what's going on on your system (which application is associated with which process, or has some file locked, or is using some TCP port, or what they're doing with the registry or file system, and more) is http://www.sysinternals.com/
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:21 pm    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

Odds are I won't be around, because Uriel is coming over. I'll try to come online.
Antrax

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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:19 pm    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

What would look out of place on that report? I've never used netstat before, but it looks interesting.
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:31 pm    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

Basically, it should make sense to you. My netstat looks like this:
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TCP Konoko:2771 localhost:9774 ESTABLISHED
TCP Konoko:2773 localhost:2774 ESTABLISHED
TCP Konoko:2774 localhost:2773 ESTABLISHED
TCP Konoko:9774 localhost:2771 ESTABLISHED
TCP Konoko:2487 www.ceruleanstudios.com:http CLOSE_WAIT
TCP Konoko:2489 64.12.30.228:5190 ESTABLISHED
TCP Konoko:2491 205.188.5.21:5190 ESTABLISHED
TCP Konoko:2495 baym-cs88.msgr.hotmail.com:1863 ESTABLISHED
TCP Konoko:2772 freechess.org:5000 ESTABLISHED


The first four lines are my computer connecting to itself. It loves doing that, for some reason. All computers do it. The fifth is Trillian running. Sixth and seventh are AIM, I believe, the eight is MSN and the last is me playing chess while typing this.
If you see a lot of open ports on "listening", or connections that don't make sense, you might be infected.
Antrax

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extropalopakettle
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:35 pm    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

More informative than netstat:

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/source/tcpview.shtml

Shows which processes are using which TCP or UDP ports, what address they're connected to, etc.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:39 pm    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

Quote:
The first four lines are my computer connecting to itself. It loves doing that, for some reason.


With TCPview, you could see which processes are doing it, and get a better idea why. And it's a simple exe file - no big installation.
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 7:43 pm    Post subject: 23 Reply with quote

Well, I'm at work so my connections are a bit nuts. That's why I'm asking, I have A LOT more lines than that.
code:


Proto Local Address Foreign Address State
TCP sdonor08000:epmap sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:microsoft-ds sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:printer sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1056 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1088 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1139 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1143 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1168 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1172 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1199 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1200 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1203 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1204 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1206 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1210 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1211 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1212 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1216 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1219 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1220 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1260 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1263 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1269 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1614 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1725 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1817 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1819 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1822 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1823 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1826 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1827 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1833 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1834 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1835 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1836 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1837 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1934 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1939 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2391 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2615 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2625 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2632 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2636 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2701 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2702 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2810 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2834 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2837 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2842 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2843 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2847 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2848 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2851 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:5101 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:5800 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:5900 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:7000 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:8081 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:netbios-ssn sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1102 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1102 CA-SUTHERLAND-H:netbios-ssn ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1139 APOLLO:1060 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1143 APOLLO:1079 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1146 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1146 LUBA:netbios-ssn ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1151 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1168 APOLLO:1060 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1172 APOLLO:1079 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1199 120.103.1.34:4118 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1200 DAVOX_1_33:4102 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1203 120.103.1.34:4118 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1204 120.103.1.34:4118 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1206 120.103.1.34:4118 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1210 DAVOX_1_33:2025 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1211 DAVOX_1_33:4102 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1212 DAVOX_1_33:4130 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1216 DAVOX_1_33:2025 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1219 120.103.1.34:2025 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1220 120.103.1.34:4104 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1725 120.103.1.34:4118 CLOSE_WAIT
TCP sdonor08000:1817 120.103.1.34:4118 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1819 120.103.1.34:2025 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1822 DAVOX_1_33:4102 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1823 DAVOX_1_33:4130 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1826 DAVOX_1_33:2025 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1827 120.103.1.34:4104 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1833 120.103.1.34:4103 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1834 120.103.1.34:4104 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1835 DAVOX_1_33:4108 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1836 120.103.1.34:4114 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1837 120.103.1.34:4112 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1893 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:1934 DAVOX_1_33:4108 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:1939 120.103.1.34:4103 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2391 120.103.1.34:4118 CLOSE_WAIT
TCP sdonor08000:2505 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2514 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2615 120.103.1.34:4118 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2625 COMET:5000 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2632 COMET:5000 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2636 COMET:5000 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2810 120.103.1.34:4112 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2814 sdonor08000.corp.suth.com:0 LISTENING
TCP sdonor08000:2814 HERCULES:netbios-ssn ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2834 CYCLOPS:microsoft-ds ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2837 120.103.1.34:4118 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2842 DAVOX_1_33:4102 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2843 DAVOX_1_33:4130 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2847 DAVOX_1_33:2025 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2848 DAVOX_1_33:2025 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2851 120.103.1.34:4104 ESTABLISHED
TCP sdonor08000:2945 EPOLICY:http TIME_WAIT
TCP sdonor08000:2947 EPOLICY:http TIME_WAIT
UDP sdonor08000:microsoft-ds *:*
UDP sdonor08000:1027 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:1051 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:1140 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:1141 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:1169 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:1170 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:8081 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:8082 *:*
UDP sdonor08000:netbios-ns *:*
UDP sdonor08000:netbios-dgm *:*
UDP sdonor08000:isakmp *:*
UDP sdonor08000:2101 *:*


Most of those make sense, except for all the UDP stuff.

Quote:
The first four lines are my computer connecting to itself. It loves doing that, for some reason.
Well, if you could "connect" with yourself; Would you leave the house?
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mith
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:37 pm    Post subject: 24 Reply with quote

I get the UDP ones as well.

code:
 Proto  Local Address          Foreign Address        State

TCP bill:microsoft-ds bill:0 LISTENING
TCP bill:1027 bill:0 LISTENING
TCP bill:1032 bill:0 LISTENING
TCP bill:5180 bill:0 LISTENING
TCP bill:netbios-ssn bill:0 LISTENING
TCP bill:1027 64.12.25.207:5190 ESTABLISHED
TCP bill:1032 64.12.30.8:5190 ESTABLISHED
TCP bill:1529 ads.web.aol.com:http TIME_WAIT
TCP bill:1537 ads.web.aol.com:http TIME_WAIT
TCP bill:1542 ads.web.aol.com:http TIME_WAIT
UDP bill:microsoft-ds *:*
UDP bill:1517 *:*
UDP bill:netbios-ns *:*
UDP bill:netbios-dgm *:*



Hey, whoa, it let me copy that. Probably because I'm copying from notepad to a text box, though.

[This message has been edited by mith (edited 03-02-2004 06:38 PM).]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:39 pm    Post subject: 25 Reply with quote

Ok, it seems that IE copy/paste in general is back. Mouse is still being screwy, though.

[edit]Scratch that. It's just into IE that works. Out still doesn't[/edit]

[This message has been edited by mith (edited 03-02-2004 06:40 PM).]
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 11:56 pm    Post subject: 26 Reply with quote

Whee, navigating via keyboard now.

Running some McAfee Stinger program that's supposed to look for these worm things, I'll see if that does any good.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:34 am    Post subject: 27 Reply with quote

Ok, I'm now no longer convinced I actually have a virus. I am in lunix now, and the mouse is still acting screwy, and a couple other weird things that I think are related to a faulty shift key. I haven't tried copying and such, yet.

Is there any chance that all of this could be caused by some sort of weird hardware problem?

[This message has been edited by mith (edited 03-02-2004 07:35 PM).]
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 12:50 am    Post subject: 28 Reply with quote

Quote:
Ok, I'm now no longer convinced I actually have a virus.


That was why I wanted to know if AVG failed to find a virus that was actually there. Maybe it's not so bad after all.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 1:20 am    Post subject: 29 Reply with quote

Well, I'm not convinced I don't, either.

~throws mouse across room~
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Vegetable
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:04 pm    Post subject: 30 Reply with quote

I didn't this warranted it's own thread but thought i wanted to ask. I figure the title fits, so here's my question. Is it safe to delete all of my temporary internet files? If i try doing it through internet explorer it freezes up, so i was wondering if i could just go into the folder, select everything, and hit delete. My temporary internet files have grown to unrealistic proportion. There's some 18,000 files taking up 344 megabytes of my hard drive. This is a pain every time i run a Norton scan. Is there anything i need to make sure to keep?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:31 pm    Post subject: 31 Reply with quote

Nevermind, just learned Norton can fix it for me.
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:50 pm    Post subject: 32 Reply with quote

Save all the ones with your passwords and bank account numbers and send them to me.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 11:09 pm    Post subject: 33 Reply with quote

Ok, scratch mouse problems off the possible virus symptoms list. I'm using my parent's mouse now, and it's doing just fine.

Still all the other problems, though.
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