Ask about Anime

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

I know I'm winning in the Chess vs. Anime sink race, but I can't help it.

http://www.cartoonnetwork.com/shop/swm/vzswm/pgbx/BEI12ASW30069.01.html

I want that. Hell, I need that.

On a completely unrelated note, the Help Paul Get More Anime Foundation is now accepting donations.

[Vinny]

Yeah.

Chess is FUN to play.

BORING to talk about.

That's why you're winning.

[extropalopakettle]

The hentai discussion didn't hurt either.

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

Last I checked, the race was to see who sinks first.

I should stop posting.

[Vinny]

so has Extro seen those new movies he just got yet? What's your opinion on them?

[Coyote]

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Last I checked, the race was to see who sinks first.

I should stop posting.

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Nice to see someone here understands the whole underlying idea here.

Nevertheless...

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Yeah.
Chess is FUN to play.

BORING to talk about.

That's why you're winning

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Vinny, did you even bother to read the Chess Problem Thread? I had hoped that I'd made it clear already, but let me say it once more, just to make sure:

Chess problems have absolutely nothing to do with the game of Chess, other than the fact that they use the same rules and pieces to express their ideas.

Sheesh...are you the sort of person who, if I gave you an invitation to take a tour of The Louvre, would say "Paintball games are lots of fun, but just looking at paint on a canvas is boring!"?

Ehhh, well I never really expected my Thread to be in serious competition with this one, it was all meant in the spirit of fun. I mean, come on--did you really think I believed that such things as Holzhausen Interferences and Tertiary Black Correction could compete against Hentai Tentacle Rape?

But I would ask that, next time you feel the need to both condemn a subject as 'boring' and simultaneously reveal that you really know nothing about that subject, that you do it in the proper thread. You'll note that there's been no judgements cast upon the value or 'boredom factor' of Anime in my thread.

[This message has been edited by Coyote (edited 04-06-2004 08:53 PM).]

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

[casinopete]

I thought the Chess Problem Thread was a far more interesting read. I think it fell into a graceful decline, not because it was uninteresting, but because none of the rest of us have any idea what kinds of questions to ask.

[Coyote]

Thank you for completely missing the point, Ih8. Let me put it this way:

Yes. Anime is boring. It's always boring. The plots are hackneyed, the characters trite, the animation crude and uninspired, and the whole atmosphere behind them clearly juvenile, and designed to appeal to a juvenile audience.

How do you feel about that statement? Aren't you glad I posted it here, so you could address it? Suppose I had chosen to post it in the Spelling 101 thread instead...do you think that might have been the more proper place to make such a comment?

[casinopete]

"You'll note that there's been no judgements cast upon the value or 'boredom factor' of Anime in my thread."

No one wants to pollute such a wonderful and enlightening thread.

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

OK, to start (be prepared for a lot of quote tags):

[Coyote]

You're safe--I took no offense at your comments. And I would hope you took no offense at mine, as they don't really reflect my opinions, but were merely made to help illustrate a point. But then, you said it really doesn't matter to you what I think, so perhaps that reassurance was unnecessary.

And actually, that bit does bother me a little. You see, it does matter to me what others think, at least in regard to Chess Problems*; that of course is obvious from my somewhat rabid response to poor Vinny's offhand comment, as well as your jesting remark. Yes, I realized it was said in jest, but I felt the unstated implication (Chess Problems may be boring on occasion, Anime never is.) needed to be addressed.

Had someone posted a diatribe against Chess Problems analogous to the one I posted against Anime, I'd probably have prepared a fiery rebuttal to it even if I'd known it had merely been made for illustrative purposes. It's a little disturbing to see you respond with something as apathetic as 'I don't care what you think.' For gawds sake, man--work up a bit of passion for your subject!

^{* Try to avoid referring to them as 'Chess Puzzles'--many Problem composers find that term somewhat insulting. I imagine there are many in the field of Anime who would be equally insulted if you referred to their works as 'cartoons', yes? Unless they don't care what others think.}

[extropalopakettle]

[casinopete]

oops. posted that on 4/1 fnord.

[Vinny]

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Vinny, did you even bother to read the Chess Problem Thread?

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Yes. Boooooooooring.

Hahahhahahhahahahahhahaha!!!!!11

Really, sorry you took my comment to heart, Coyote. That was totally aimed at Paul, not you. I was poking fun at him for his gloating (which is also in jest! Don't you start on me, Paul). I don't find Chess boring at all, games or strategy or puzzles or Art (ha!) or otherwise. Nor discussion on Go or Chiness Chess. I have gotten books on these subjects. If you think Chess's problems are interesting, you should try dwelling into classic Go's problems too. Those tear me a new bumhole. I think you'll find them interesting also. Maybe casinopete should start a thread. He's the resident Go expert.

Sorry for cross-thread referencing, but like casinopete said, it just doesn't seem appropriate to post stupid smartass comment in your thread.

Again, sorry.

[This message has been edited by Vinny (edited 04-07-2004 01:35 AM).]

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

[Coyote]

Heh...one of the things I like about the GL is that people here can resolve their differences and still be total dorkphishes about it.

Soo--please do get back to the Anime discussions. And I'll try my best to behave myself from now on.

* gives the traditional Coyote Salute to Vinny and i_h8 *

[Vinny]

I have no idea what the Traditional Coyote Salute is.

Does it resemble the Hy's Classik?

[Coyote]

No, no! Heheh, nothing like that, good heavens! It's pretty much like your typical run-of-the-mill salute.

Only, instead of lifting your front leg to give the salute, you....

Ehhh, no, I think perhaps it's best I don't explain it. Suffice it to say that I've come to regard the GL as my territory, and as a coyote, I always try to leave my mark wherever I go.

[This message has been edited by Coyote (edited 04-07-2004 09:28 PM).]

[Vinny]

ewwwwwwwwwwwwww

~shakes pants leg

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

Uhh... BACK TO ANIME! (Geez, this is the second time I'm doing this.)

We (my two friends and I) just finished an Anime/MTG all-night party. We finished up Excel Saga, and another friend brought over some Anime called Puni-Puni Poemi. It's got a couple of resemblences to Excel Saga, but I highly advise that nobody under the mental age of 20 see this Anime, and, if you happen to watch it, do so with extreme caution. And a sturdy chair. You will be laughing your ass off.

After that, we played some magic, watched Dave play .hack// Mutation, and fell asleep. When we woke up, we started watching El Hazard. Nobody really liked it, so we turned it off after the first episode (which was 45 minutes long). Nothing much really happened afterwards, so they all went home.

And that was about it.

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[This message has been edited by i_h8_evil_stuff (edited 04-08-2004 04:16 PM).]

[One Skunk Todd]

Two movies that I haven't seen mentioned that I think are worth seeing are Barefoot Gen and Millennium Actress.

Be warned, Barefoot Gen about a little boy who lives in Hiroshima in 1945 and it gets HORRIBLY depressing. Millennium Actress has a... bittersweet I guess you would call it, ending but is a fun watch.

Also, if you want to try a cool blend of live action and CGI anime, look for a film called Avalon. It's by the same guy who did Ghost in the Shell.

Let's see, what else:

Blue Submarine Number 6
Hellsing (haven't watched it yet but have very recommendations from friends
Full Metal Panic, which I think was mentioned earlier
Vampire Hunter D
Big O, nice series but ended weird
Read or Die, excellent fun stuff.

[extropalopakettle]

Kiki's Delivery Service is on cable this afternoon at 1:00 (East Coast) - not sure what station it is though - some cartoon channel.

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

I think it's on Disney toons, or something like that. I have basic cable, so I can't watch it.

[One Skunk Todd]

We rented Kiki's Delivery Service on Netflix and we're going to watch it tonight.

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

Grrrr...

Tell me how it is.

[One Skunk Todd]

I enjoyed it. Very sweet in a Totoro way. Nary a giant robot or vampire to be seen. Probably a bit treacly and overblown for some people. It did seem to run about 20 or so minutes longer than it should have. Absolutely gorgeous visually.

[Legend of Tenshi]

On the topic of Hentai I have two comments. One is that the people who watch it tend to be smelly and unwashed. This view is based on a place where I play MTG. I started having a go at slash and Hgames and he tried to defend them. He was smelly and unwashed imo so thats who they are for. Also check the direct translation of the japanese word hentai. It means pervert! Even the japanese realise that anime and hentai are different and go down pretty hard on it in most civilised circles.

I personally rate Perfect Blue as the best anime I have ever seen. I have never seen a show/movie leaving me more confused yet so engrossed. It is definately not kiddie safe though, unless you like you kiddies seeing bubble gum pop princesses acting in a rape sequence for a tv show. Yes, this movie is odd but is absolute gold.

Also, in reference to Ninja Scroll. The only thing I really know about it is the earth elemental scene (if you have seen it you should know what I mean). Is it worth watching or is it a purile gore/sex fest?

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Stupidity. Ignorance. n00bness. Hijacking. unfounded assumptions.

When you powers combine, I am captain clunker

[Vinny]

I liked the characters in Ninja Scroll, and it has a pretty good story.

Saw Cowboy Beebop the first five eps last night. Very good stuff, especially eps 5. Are they going to show more of Spike's past in later episode, because they only showed a montage of it. [Was he used to be in some chinese gang before he became a cowboy?]

[extropalopakettle]

I saw an episode of FLCL on cable last night (3:00 AM, cartoon channel) - weird and interesting. Guy get's clonked on head by strange girl (I didn't get enough of the context from the one episode to figure out the nature of her strangeness) and ends up with this protrusion that sticks out of his forehead, but which he can push back in and keep in if he covers it with a bandage (which he does). Very strange. I couldn't find any other time it's being aired in the next week though.

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

If you saw the whole episode, just watch the rest of the series(there's only 6 episodes). Most of the series will be explained in itself. Anything else that you have trouble with, just ask me. I know a LOT about that show. (It's my favorite show. ever.)

FLCL aires on Cartoon Network's [adult swim] at 12:00midnight and reruns at 3:00am late Saturday night / early Sunday morning. (Episode 2: FiSta (Fire Starter) will air the night of May 1st.)

I feel like an advertiser.

[Vinny]

been watching Full Metal Panic lately. Even though I don't like Mech Anime, this one is pretty good!

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

Yeah, I just saw the last 3 episodes about two days ago. It was pretty good.

[Paige]

Hentai is cool, I'm not into the tentacle aspects though.
It's better than non anime ADULT shows because you can get some really good plots. Like helping humanity save the world from giant plants that happen to be like a male penis, or fighting crime etc.

Plus, you can over come the limits of the physical body and mind in anime.


Now questions:
Who are the "evil" characters in Inu Yasha?

Who are the "good" characters in Inu Yasha?

Do you recommend Saber Marionnette J (or anyother of the series) despite not having it on your list?

Have you ever heard of Hime Chan no ribbon(Manga)?

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

Welcome to the boards, Paige!

"Good" characters: Kagome, Inu-Yasha, Myoga, Kikyo, Shippo, Miroku, Sango, Kaede, Koga*

"Bad" characters: Naraku, Kagura, Sesshomaru, Koga*

*Koga is kind of both, as Inu-Yasha and Koga always seem to get into a fight. Looking from Kagome's POV, Koga is good, and Inu-Yasha is unobservant. Looking from Inu-Yasha's POV, Koga is just trying to get in his way (and is also trying to steal Kagome from him. Ah, secret love.)

I've never heard of Saber Marionette J. If it's ever aired on TV or if my friends start buying it, I would definitely start watching it(The majority of the anime I've seen was borrowed from my friends.) I've looked at some reviews, but the only way to decide if I like it is to watch it myself.

I've never heard of Hime Chan no Ribbon, but it sounds sort of like a Ranma type show (it is also a TV show), and if it aires on TV or I can borrow it, I would most likely start watching/reading it.

Just an update on some stuff on Cartoon Network's [adult swim]

Weeknights (excluding fridays. Times are Eastern/Pacific)
12:00 (Starting 5/24) Case Closed
12:30 Inu-Yasha
01:00 Cowboy Bebop
01:30 Trigun

Saturday Night (5/22)
11:00 Inu-Yasha
11:30 Wolf's Rain (Episode 5 of 26)
12:00 FLCL (Episode 5 of 6)
12:30 Inu-Yasha
01:00 Cowboy Bebop
01:30 Trigun

All episodes are re-aired 3 hours after the time marked above (Wolf's Rain aires at 11:30 and 2:30).

(Well, what an idiot I am. I forgot that I could link to the schedule page. *sigh* I guess I'm just losing my mind. Anyway, here's the schedule: http://schedule.adultswim.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=selectASDay

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[This message has been edited by i_h8_evil_stuff (edited 05-17-2004 07:11 PM).]

[Lilliputian Hitcher]

Serial Experiments Lain. Help?

[i_h8_evil_stuff]

My firend is letting me borrow it, but I can never find the time to watch it. As soon as I watch it, I'll answer any questions that I know the answer to (and probably some I don't ).

[casinopete]

Help with what?

[Termital]

[/skips amusing tentacle commentary] How did these epilepsy-inducing "alternate colours really realy fast" explosions come to be? Are they a pop version of the oh-so-popular "whiteout" really big explosions? And are the latter some sort of formalised upsession stemming from being on the receiving end of nukes?

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Yearn brightly

[One Skunk Todd]

Watched several episodes of the 2nd Rah-Xephon dvd last night. Very mysterious. Really weird giant robots, invading aliens, Tokyo incapsulated in a separate time stream.