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Nauplius
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: 201 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
thats why two people are still voting for me i believe.


Actually, the reason I was still voting for you was because I hadn't logged on to unvote you. With the current turn of events however, I don't think I'm going to unvote now.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: 202 Reply with quote

it seems to be either MNOWAX or Pete D HAVE to be scum as one of them is lying ---

I really dont like Pete's claim as it means he's a bloodthirsty Vig that wants me dead - and he seems eager to use his powers.

but if MNOWAX is telling the truth --- what the heck is Pete D? He's gotta be lying -- and liars are usually scum, but if he targetted me and is scum -- what does that mean?

for now UNVOTE: Pete D
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 3:20 pm    Post subject: 203 Reply with quote

One thing I can think of that would make MNOWAX's story make sense is if Pete D was a Mafia cop of some sort. He investigated me and now he wants me dead. If he cant get me lynched then he can have me killed and its justified because he told the town he'd do so ahead of time.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject: 204 Reply with quote

Unvote pete d.
I think MNOWAX is lying, but I'm not positive. Also, the only ways I can see that both MNOWAX and Pete D could be town would be: One is lying about their claim (I have no idea why) or Pete D tried to vig Narninian, who was doc-protected, which did not show up in the dayscene for some odd reason. The first is much more likely, obviously, but I don't believe either is the case.
FoS: MNOWAX.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: 205 Reply with quote

apparently I don't leave until tomorrow. sorry about that.

unvote, vote: MNOWAX

if he is not lynched today, you can be certain that I will target him tonight.

see you guys in a week.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2007 11:29 pm    Post subject: 206 Reply with quote

I have an alternate plan. We don't lynch MNOWAX or Pete D. One of them is lying, so assuming a town member isn't lying then one of them is scum. I think we should let them both live until night, and then have Pete D kill mnowax --- if he turns up town we know that pete d was lying (or isnt killed) and we can lynch him.
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MNOWAX
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: 207 Reply with quote

i am not trying to get pete d lynched. i am only bringing this up because i know he's lying about something. Wether hes a vig or a SK or scum or a townie non killing role that is just as powerful is what i am after. it is my intent to find out who pete d really is. Pete D might not be scum, i jsut know what my info is. Like i said before he targetted Narnian, not yamahako. i don't know what this means at all, but if it means i have to risk dying tonight to prove anything then i will. It will be for the good of the town. I just dont think that he kills, and hes lying about his vig role.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:05 pm    Post subject: 208 Reply with quote

vote Mnowax

What we have here is a really easy 1-1 trade at worst, plus we have the with the numbers to make it work. It's not as if its anything remotely subjective either, it's tracker vs someone disagreeing with tracker, and it's hard to come up with a serious reason as to how any mafia could screw with that. Regardless of which way we look at it, without anyone counterclaiming the kill on Yama, he cannot be an SK leeching off the kill of a vig. This means that either he is a lying scum leeching off the SK or vise versa (we get 1-1). 1 distinctly odd possibilty is that he is scum leeching off the kill of the other scum, and Mnowax is the other scum group, gifted with the knowledge that Pete D is lying. Whilst this would be hilarious, it doesn't really change our plan for today, so y'know. So, anyway what I'm really getting at is that there's little chance that PD is the vig-masquarading SK of legend, the dude that if we lynch him will drop our kills unless mnowax is also scum, making the retconning Mnowax the better lynch in this case.

@Narnian: A single scum RB fucks your plan, and they're more than common enough for me to feel apprehensive. Not to mention the fact that it simply isn't as efficient unless we have someone else we need to get rid of as well, which we don't really atm.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: 209 Reply with quote

Pete D has admitted he's going to kill me or MNOWAX so Ill admit Im kind of apprehensive to letting us go to night without an alternate target for Pete D. So even if we decide MNOWAX is the one to lynch I think we should discuss that first.

We have to decide between a claimed tracker, and a Claimed Vigilante thats killed already. Who you believe aside --- the tracker is much more valuable to keep alive in my opinion. If we decide to lynch him anyway, the town should really give recommendations for pete on who to kill -- we can use him as an extra lynch rather than an extra person to fear.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: 210 Reply with quote

If hypothetical PeteDvig targets you, he really isn't paying enough attention.

If Mnowax turns up scum, mista vig has free reign, as vigs should do. If he doesn't, there's no controlling him, as he's scum.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:55 pm    Post subject: 211 Reply with quote

Narninian wrote:
The mafia HAS to know the show, in order to come up with some sort of fake claim. Townies dont need to lie or come up with fake stuff, so may not be as familiar.
True, but it isn't hard or painful to look up on lostpedia and see the 20 main characters staring you straight in the face.

MNOWAX wrote:
I had nothing to add to the situation, so i left it alone. you stated that i wasn't here on day one, not me. I was watching the game, and i had nothing to add.
Post 173.
MNOWAX wrote:
OK, so im brought to Lynch-1 because i wasn't here to vote on Livingod yesterday? and i wagoned on you for no apparent reason? I gave my raesons for voting for you Pete. he distanced from livingod, and look, God turned out scum. Can anyone see this wagon on me is scum driven???
Post 170. If in his first reference the claim that he hadn't been there, why had MNOWAX not said it was incorrect then instead of waiting to be called out on it?

pete d wrote:
The powerful nature of my role suggests to me that there is both a mafia and a SK.
How is your role powerful? Because you can use it more than once?

I can't see Walt as anything but townie, though not vanilla. He (potentially) can make stuff appear/happen with his mind - at least, that's what the viewer is led to believe. I don't see how this could make him a tracker, unless if the mod was to be real liberal with his "powers" so that he could mentally follow someone or something of that sort.
I can't really see Kate as a vig. Kate's whole deal is that she runs from her problems instead of confronting them, though she has killed (only her father who was a complete wife-abusing drunk). I would have thought if there was a town vig, it would have been Sawyer since he not only took control of all of the guns come Season Two but he actually shot someone in the series in the past (Kate killed her dad by blowing him up). Also, he doesn't run from his problems, but is actively searching for someone who he wants to kill. As such, while I don't rule out the possibility of Kate being a vig, I don't buy it.

Frankly, based off of what I know of the show, I think they're both lying. Who is to say that the town even has a vig, or that the mod hasn't given safe claims (thus making Pete a SK)? But out of the two, Vote: MNOWAX. His general playstyle inconsistancies, lying about his role, and Livingod distancing merits my vote.
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Nauplius
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: 212 Reply with quote

Narninian wrote:
We have to decide between a claimed tracker, and a Claimed Vigilante thats killed already.



Actually, we have to decide between a claimed Kate and a claimed Walt. Everyone but Rathyr & Green Crayons has had a chance to make a counter claim. Kate is most certainly in the game, so barring a counterclaim I see no reason not to lynch MNOWAX.

That being said we should definitely wait for Rathry and GC to post, even if it means asking the mod for an extension on the deadline.
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Nauplius
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: 213 Reply with quote

I didn't see Green Crayons post when I made that last post. That just leaves Rathyr.
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ChannelDelibird
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:52 am    Post subject: 214 Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm comfortable with a vote: MNOWAX. Kate is almost certainly in the game (although I'll admit vig is strange), and Walt was absent for long periods...
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Narninian
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:21 pm    Post subject: 215 Reply with quote

Its true Kate is more likely to be in the game than Walt. I can't see reasoning for Walt being a tracker, but I think its really a stretch for Kate being a VIG. Maybe they are both lying? But I agree with consensus here --- MNOWAX is a good pick. lets see if Rathr has anything to say.
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Nauplius
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 5:38 am    Post subject: 216 Reply with quote

I guess we won't hear from Rathyr. If I'm counting correctly Green Crayon's vote was the lynch vote and ChannelDelibird's was just overkill.
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Primate
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:54 pm    Post subject: 217 Reply with quote

Narninian wrote:
Its true Kate is more likely to be in the game than Walt. I can't see reasoning for Walt being a tracker, but I think its really a stretch for Kate being a VIG. Maybe they are both lying? But I agree with consensus here --- MNOWAX is a good pick. lets see if Rathr has anything to say.
It is a defining plot point for Kate that she kills for the greater good. She's hardly the least likely vig in the world at all. I will admit that there are more plausible vigs, (anna-lucia, anyone?) but kates not especially unlikely at all.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: 218 Reply with quote

Oh how I have been neglecting you, oh faithful lostees.

You gather at the gallows and hoist MNOWAX up to the noose.

He struggles. One of the town grabs him by the shoulders while someone else grabs him by the hair and beard.

"Wait a sec..."

"This isn't even a real beard!"

"Who the hell are you?"

MNOWAX just glowers.

MNOWAX was Tom, AKA Mr. Friendly, an OTHER.

Town, you're doing very well. In fact, you're ruining my game.

Get me some night choices!!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:29 pm    Post subject: 219 Reply with quote

I'm still waiting on [no/one/some/all] night choice[/s] from [none/one/several/all] of you.

C'mon [ladies/gentlemen]!
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 1:09 pm    Post subject: 220 Reply with quote

In 24 hours, I open this thread. I want the last of the night choices.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:22 pm    Post subject: 221 Reply with quote

Day dawns to find a distinct lack of flavor in the opening post.

And two dead bodies! Both shot by person or persons or (super-intelligent-cyborg-polar-bears) unknown.

Narninian was Jack Shephard, doctor. Sadly, he couldn't self-protect or he would be with us today.

Cephrir is found dead outside Primate's tent. What was he doing there? Presumably following tracks. Cephrir was John Locke, tracker.

With six alive, it is four to lynch.

Goodbye. And good luck!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: 222 Reply with quote

Vote Rathyr

Get er done.

BTW, I have no idea what that morning scene thing is about. I intend to claim today anyway.

Fos Pete D For missing the blatantly obvious fact that Narnian was a doc.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 6:43 pm    Post subject: 223 Reply with quote

I assume Narninian was pete d's kill.

Mod: could we have a prod on Rathyr? He's disappeared on mafiascum too as far as I can tell, so I think this is more general inactivity than specific lurking in this game.
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Narninian
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: 224 Reply with quote

BAH

powerless to stop it.
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Green Crayons
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:50 pm    Post subject: 225 Reply with quote

Green Crayons wrote:
pete d wrote:
The powerful nature of my role suggests to me that there is both a mafia and a SK.
How is your role powerful? Because you can use it more than once?
I would like this question answered. I would also like pete's reaction at there being only two kills on Night Two.

Primate wrote:
BTW, I have no idea what that morning scene thing is about.
Obviously someone targeted you, and Cephrir had targeted/tracked them.


And Rathyr has asked to have been pulled from a game or two over on mafiascum. Don't know if that applies for here.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:15 am    Post subject: 226 Reply with quote

I'd quite like Rathyr replaced, if it's not too much trouble. His last post on 'scum was Dec 18, and that was in a game he didn't request replacement in. Also, he's todays primary lynch possiblty, so it's not like we can get by with a couple of posts by him.

@GC: you're probly right about that.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: 227 Reply with quote

wldhrtcgd99 has offered to replace Rathyr, effective as soon as she confirms her role.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 9:42 pm    Post subject: 228 Reply with quote

She's confirmed! I've got some reading to do.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: 229 Reply with quote

i thought that due to me being able to kill every night, as well as the amount of power roles, that there could be a SK (or more than one scum killing group). but the possible other killer would have most likely had to attack me, as Narnian probably protected me. or there is a RB. (there are a lot of power roles).

it looks pretty obvious that their is still 1 (at least) mafioso alive. I think that it is CDB. Livingod wagon: he is the 2nd last vote, when it was inevitable that livingod would be lynched. MNOWAX wagon: he puts on an overkill vote. 2 distancing votes for 2 mafiosos. He also was the first to place blame me on day 2. vote: ChannelDelibird.

the good news is, we probably still have a sane cop.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: 230 Reply with quote

wldhrtcgd99 wrote:
She's confirmed! I've got some reading to do.
erm...

would mind claiming as soon as possible please?

...sorry
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:14 pm    Post subject: 231 Reply with quote

Primate wrote:
wldhrtcgd99 wrote:
She's confirmed! I've got some reading to do.
erm...

would mind claiming as soon as possible please?

...sorry


Do we really need a claim now that we have an active player? I think I'd rather hear wld-etc's views on the first two days before we look at ordering people to claim.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: 232 Reply with quote

ChannelDelibird wrote:
Primate wrote:
wldhrtcgd99 wrote:
She's confirmed! I've got some reading to do.
erm...

would mind claiming as soon as possible please?

...sorry


Do we really need a claim now that we have an active player? I think I'd rather hear wld-etc's views on the first two days before we look at ordering people to claim.
Aww, please. I have this shiny guilty result and everything. Dispirited
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: 233 Reply with quote

Primate wrote:
Aww, please. I have this shiny guilty result and everything. Dispirited


I see.

Well, it can't hurt to get both sides of the story anyway. A quick claim and lynch would be bad at this point.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 7:57 pm    Post subject: 234 Reply with quote

I think we should mass claim, personally.

I mean, we need to make sure this is the correct lynch, and I very much doubt that there's gonna be four mafioso's who can take advantage of the fact that all our roles are out in the open. Better to get everything out there and make sure we dont fuck up.

About the only wildcard left is Pete D, and we can keep him on the leash easily enough. He doesn't do what we say and we kill him. Fairly easy.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 11:28 pm    Post subject: 235 Reply with quote

unvote
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: 236 Reply with quote

I have no problem with mass claiming, but I want to see what wldhrtcgd99 claims first. I'd also like to see night choices from pete d and Primate.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:26 am    Post subject: 237 Reply with quote

Well, do you guys want my claim or my thoughts?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:45 am    Post subject: 238 Reply with quote

might be a little late, but , BAH! Go Others!
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:10 am    Post subject: 239 Reply with quote

Nauplius wrote:
I'd also like to see night choices from pete d and Primate.


On this subject...

ChannelDelibird, a.k.a. He Who Pwns wrote:
I assume Narninian was pete d's kill.


Despite pete d posting we haven't heard a response to this yet.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:12 am    Post subject: 240 Reply with quote

My N1 was Yamahako.
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