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Nauplius
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 8:31 am Post subject: 241 |
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| wldhrtcgd99 wrote: |
| Well, do you guys want my claim or my thoughts? |
Hell, why not both. |
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wldhrtcgd99
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:47 am Post subject: 242 |
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I just finished reading the thread in whole. I HAVE to claim now either way so the timing works well.
Danielle, One Shot Vigilante. I have the ability to trap one person to keep the town safe. With that...
vote pete d for obvious reasons.
If there is a SK and Mafia, and a multi shot Vig, then why dont these numbers add up?
As for the guilty result I dont know. Weve found a paranoid cop, so with the clues that gives us on the set up it's not completely out there for it to be untrue. |
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Primate
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:56 am Post subject: 243 |
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Ok.
That genuinely does work as a miller given my flavour. We need to mass claim. |
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wldhrtcgd99
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: 244 |
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Primate
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 10:06 am Post subject: 245 |
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| wldhrtcgd99 wrote: |
| I agree |
Also, have you used your ability yet? |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: 246 |
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Primate, have I missed your complete claim, and if I haven't, could you please make it?
I'm up for a mass claim. Who's going to decide who goes first? _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Primate
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 4:33 pm Post subject: 247 |
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| ChannelDelibird wrote: |
Primate, have I missed your complete claim, and if I haven't, could you please make it?
I'm up for a mass claim. Who's going to decide who goes first? |
Im an uncounterclaimed cop who, both days, was the first to vote a mafioso, in particular d2, in which I repeatedly tried to lynch a scum, with very little support from anyone else.
I see no reason to say my role name atm. My voting record is absolutely impeccable, my claim awesome, and I am not unaware of these facts. If I can counterclaim a scums rolename, unlikely as it is, I will.
I think you should probly go first, then Naupilus, then green crayons. I don't really care which one of you first two goes first, but other people have expressed suspicion against you, so you should probly go first. I'm fairly sure Green Crayons is town though, so y'know, he should really go last. |
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wldhrtcgd99
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Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:53 pm Post subject: 248 |
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| Primate wrote: |
| wldhrtcgd99 wrote: |
| I agree |
Also, have you used your ability yet? |
No, I have not. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: 249 |
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Fair enough.
I'm Jin, theo's mason buddy. _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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pete d
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: 250 |
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vote: wld
a multi shot vig and a 1 shot vig seems unlikely. add that to primates guilty result and wld's quick vote on me.
my targets: n1 yamahako n2 narnian
leaning towards targetting cdb 2nite.
if anyone forgot, my claim is kate the vig.
i am not mafia because mnowax took me on and 1 of us had to get lynched. as for a SK, does my behaviour on day 1 reflect a SK? (sorry if this is wifom). |
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pete d
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: 251 |
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| (that is, a cdb kill tonight presuming wld is lynched today) |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 3:36 pm Post subject: 252 |
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Big, Big FoS: pete d
You're considering killing the only confirmed player in the town? I'm 100% confirmed innocent unless some idiotic scum thinks they can survive and win the game by counterclaiming a mason. Even if they were to convince you guys to lynch me they'd be exposed as scum for it and would therefore lose the game.
This should be a vote, but I have no reason to disbelieve your claim. _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Primate
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 4:58 pm Post subject: 253 |
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Hmm, I didn't have you pegged as the mason. Fair enough though.
unvote
We're mass claiming. We are not lynching anyone yet. |
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wldhrtcgd99
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:18 pm Post subject: 254 |
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| pete d wrote: |
vote: wld
a multi shot vig and a 1 shot vig seems unlikely. add that to primates guilty result and wld's quick vote on me.
my targets: n1 yamahako n2 narnian
leaning towards targetting cdb 2nite.
if anyone forgot, my claim is kate the vig.
i am not mafia because mnowax took me on and 1 of us had to get lynched. as for a SK, does my behaviour on day 1 reflect a SK? (sorry if this is wifom). |
Narnian? That's someone who's obviously innocent. That's suspicious.
You're the one who was saying that we have to have a mafia and a SK, but with a multi shot Vig the number of kills dont add up. That goes against you too.
Ive read all of your posts and yes, you seem like a SK to me. SK are just as much against the mafia as they are the town. You were just shifting blame onto whoever else you could and lucked out that they were mafia. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: 255 |
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| pete d wrote: |
| if anyone forgot, my claim is kate the vig. |
Just noticed this...argument by repetition anyone? _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Nauplius
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Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: 256 |
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| I guess I'm next to claim. I'm Sawyer. I don't want to reveal what my role can do at this time, but my voting record should be enough to prove I'm on the towns side. |
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pete d
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 6:51 am Post subject: 257 |
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| i totally missed cdb claiming jin. SORRY. i'm an idiot. i completely withdraw any death threats to cdb. |
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pete d
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:07 am Post subject: 258 |
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summary of claims:
1. Primate ~ ?, cop, reasonably innocent
2. wld ~ Danielle, 1 shot vig, potentially anti-town character
4. Nauplius ~ Sawyer, ? ability, pro-town character
5. Channeldelibird ~ Jin, mason, 100% townie confirmed if no counter claim
7. Green Crayons ~ no claim yet
i also don't trust the character of Danielle, who is potentially dangerous and unstable.
if i wasnt a vig, i might be able to buy the claim of a 1 shot vig / miller. as it is, i don't. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:14 am Post subject: 259 |
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| pete d wrote: |
| i also don't trust the character of Danielle, who is potentially dangerous and unstable. |
I don't know about Danielle being scum. I can only see her wanting to kill the Others - she has no real gripe with the survivors of the crash. _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Primate
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Posted: Wed Jan 17, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: 260 |
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@Naupilus. Good name claim, obviously. I could understand your reticence if we were in a different situation, however bear in mind that we have a confirmed mason and a sane cop exisiting, with no godfather around. There's no way in hell that you're going to be targetted by a nightkill tonight unless you claim something uber. If you're untargetable/un-nk/roleblocker, it would be much better for us to know today, seeing as it's more efficient for cops to work around RB's than vice versa, and anything that relies on you being targetted by a nightkill has a very slim chance of pulling off.
I'll outline my plan once we have Green Crayon's claim. It's not a particularly innovative plan, but it'll do. |
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Green Crayons
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:24 am Post subject: 261 |
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Sorry, I'm here.
I'm Boon. I'm eager to help out, save humanity and be part of the in-crowd on the Island or whatever, hoping to save everyone. As a result, I have a few one-shot abilities, none of which have turned up anything useful or unexpected so far.
For the record, I'm comfortable following Primate's lead, and no, a one-shot vig is not part of my ability. |
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Nauplius
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: 262 |
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| Primate wrote: |
@Naupilus. Good name claim, obviously. I could understand your reticence if we were in a different situation, however bear in mind that we have a confirmed mason and a sane cop exisiting, with no godfather around. There's no way in hell that you're going to be targetted by a nightkill tonight unless you claim something uber. If you're untargetable/un-nk/roleblocker, it would be much better for us to know today, seeing as it's more efficient for cops to work around RB's than vice versa, and anything that relies on you being targetted by a nightkill has a very slim chance of pulling off.
I'll outline my plan once we have Green Crayon's claim. It's not a particularly innovative plan, but it'll do. |
I don't think my revealing now will change anything with regards to today's lynch choice or tonights choices. So unless everyone agrees that I should reveal now, I would prefer to keep it to myself at least until endgame. I can tell you that you have nothing to worry about for your investigation tonight though if that was your main concern. |
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pete d
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 4:16 am Post subject: 263 |
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| I find Green's role claim somewhat dubious, as I would not consider Boon a central character. Fos: GreenCrayons |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: 264 |
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Yeah, in a game set in season 2, I'm not sure Boone would appear. Also, I don't know if it's worth pointing out the lack of an 'e' in the name claim. That's probably a typo but possibly someone not having a role PM to verify their name with.
Naupilus - I think we're going to want everything out in the open. _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Primate
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Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 6:07 pm Post subject: 265 |
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| Green Crayons wrote: |
Sorry, I'm here.
I'm Boon. I'm eager to help out, save humanity and be part of the in-crowd on the Island or whatever, hoping to save everyone. As a result, I have a few one-shot abilities, none of which have turned up anything useful or unexpected so far.
For the record, I'm comfortable following Primate's lead, and no, a one-shot vig is not part of my ability. |
Well, what are they?
Solid name claims (bolded alive)
Narninian - Jack - Doctor
Naupilus - Sawyer - ???
Pete D - Kate - Vig
Cehrir - Locke - Tracker
Primate - Hurley - Cop
CDB - Jin - Mason
Theo - Sun - Mason
Weaker name claims
Wildhrt - Rousseau - One-shot vig
Green Crayons - Boone - Bunch o' one shots
Things Mafia claimed
Walt - Tracker
Marvin Candle - RB
BTW, my investigation is flavoured as looking at the manifest to see if the person was originally on the plane. Danielle was not originally on the plane, so is a plausible miller. I'm mostly taking this with a grain of salt though, considering that, by my flavour, Benjamin Linus (godfather) would have come up as being on the plane, when he quite blatantly wasn't.
@CDB: Thing is, I'm not entirely sure if this is based on the second series at all. We have absolutely no indication that this is the case based on the townie roles, and it's almost like the mod made a game based on the first series, then added 'others' from the second series simply to make up the numbers. This game is heavily based in the first series. There has been no Eko, no Anna-lucia, no Desmond, all big characters who could easily be here. It's for that reason that I think our last mafioso is Ethan (or possibly Juilet), so would have to false claim. |
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Nauplius
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:19 pm Post subject: 266 |
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Vote: Green Crayons
His claim is simply the weakest. wld...99's claim is the next weakest, maybe we should consider having pete vig him?/her? tonight if it comes to that. |
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Primate
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 4:13 pm Post subject: 267 |
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| I'm of the opinion that the best play might be to point our two vigs at one another. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 5:41 pm Post subject: 268 |
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| Primate wrote: |
| I'm of the opinion that the best play might be to point our two vigs at one another. |
This is a good plan.
Vote: Green Crayons _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Primate
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Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject: 269 |
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Hey, don't lynch yet. Depending on what GC claims his one-shots are, best play could be to no lynch.
Also, speedwagons based on bad claims are disgusting. We're not under a deadline, lets get this sorted before we make a move. |
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pete d
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: 270 |
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| unvote works for me. GC has already said that he's not a vig. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 9:03 pm Post subject: 271 |
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*thread-prod*
Mod: could we get a prod on Green Crayons please? _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Green Crayons
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 6:07 am Post subject: 272 |
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Sorry, no need for prod, I'm busy with revising for exams. Check my other threads, I haven't been posting.
Abilities:
1. One-shot investigation. Investigated Primate Night Two, he's innocent. I'm thinking he's Hurley from my description, but it was left vague so that's just my best guess from what I know of the show. For the record, I was given both a description as well as a innocent/guilty result.
2. One-shot roleblock. This is combined with a house-sitting (or whatever it's called) ability, where whomever I target I not only block for the night, but I also spend the night over there at his house (or tent, apparently). That way, if I'm the target of a night action, it fails. If my target is the target of a night action, it applies to both of us. I don't know if this refers to only kill actions or to others (investigations, roleblocking, etc, etc), it wasn't specificied in my PM. I targeted Narninian Night One.
3. Target two players. Player 1's ability will be redirected to Player 2. Haven't used this one yet.
4. "Sacrifice myself to the Island." I wasn't told what this would do, only that it would be beneficial for the town but with my death as a result. I chose it during the night (but not in place of my night action), and it occurs on the following day in the post-lynch scene. Haven't used this one yet either.
| pete wrote: |
| I find Green's role claim somewhat dubious, as I would not consider Boon a central character. |
Funny, I would. He gets plenty of story and screen time.
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| I don't know if it's worth pointing out the lack of an 'e' in the name claim. That's probably a typo but possibly someone not having a role PM to verify their name with. |
I knew what my name was, so I didn't check the PM for spelling confirmation. Obviously, the PM spells it Boone. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 2:21 pm Post subject: 273 |
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| Green Crayons wrote: |
| 4. "Sacrifice myself to the Island." I wasn't told what this would do, only that it would be beneficial for the town but with my death as a result. I chose it during the night (but not in place of my night action), and it occurs on the following day in the post-lynch scene. Haven't used this one yet either. |
It might be worth not using this now that Locke is dead. If we're going by flavour, I wouldn't have expected anyone other than Locke to get any help from this, but obviously the setup is going to come first.
Thanks for posting btw.
Number 3 would be a great way to test someone's claim. I'm the most confirmed player we have...maybe you should redirect Rousseau's vig kill to me and I'll test it on pete d? _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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pete d
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: 274 |
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this is stupid. consider this: wld pretty much thinks i'm scum by the flavour of her posts, so will most likely target me tonight anyway, thus no proof on GC's claim.
@ GC: I could think of many far more prominant characters than Boone, eg Claire, Charlie, Michael off the top of my head. The Locke / Boone connection does make sense though.
@ Cdb: I'm interested to know why you think I'm scummier than Wld, (hence the suggestion of targetting me tonight) where I am an obvious pro town character and wld is a supposedly miller vig.
there is a simple plan. we have 2 definate innocents (cdb and primate), 2 probably innocents (me and naupilus) and two dubious claims (GC and wld). solution: lynch GC today, me and wld will target each other tonight (as each is convinced the other is scum). Primate can investigate Naupilus tonight. If Naupilus does have a RB ability, I would ask him to not use it tonight.
vote:GreenCrayons
On the off chance that wld is a scum RB, if he is still alive tomorrow, Primate should have his result on Naupilus, so you have an obvious lynch. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2007 5:06 pm Post subject: 275 |
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| pete d wrote: |
| @ Cdb: I'm interested to know why you think I'm scummier than Wld, (hence the suggestion of targetting me tonight) where I am an obvious pro town character and wld is a supposedly miller vig. |
The suggestion I made was meant to go with the plan we already had, in which you vig Wld. You'll both still die, but it allows us to prove Green Crayons' ability as well. _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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Primate
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:14 pm Post subject: 276 |
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Naupilus, I think it's come to the point where we need to know what you do. I am an uncounterclaimed cop with an innocent investigation on me. CDB is an uncounterclaimed mason. We can kill everyone except us three by tomorrow, and it's the best play to do so. Thing is, despite your voting record, I'm not convinced enough to put you in the confirmed list. If any of us three is scum, they can simply kill another one of the three and endgame the other one. That's what we must avoid.
Fwiw, I think GC is talking out of his ass with that claim. |
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Green Crayons
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: 277 |
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[quote=pete]there is a simple plan. we have 2 definate innocents (cdb and primate), 2 probably innocents (me and naupilus) and two dubious claims (GC and wld). solution: lynch GC today, me and wld will target each other tonight (as each is convinced the other is scum). Primate can investigate Naupilus tonight. If Naupilus does have a RB ability, I would ask him to not use it tonight.[/quote]For this plan to actually work, the town has to make some pretty major assumptions about not only the framework of the game (roles, abilities, etc), but also about who will follow through with what actions.
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| I could think of many far more prominant characters than Boone, eg Claire, Charlie, Michael off the top of my head. |
To be honest, I don't see Charlie (or Sun and Jin, for that matter) to be more prominant than Boone, but that's just nitpicking. What's important to remember, though, is that there are several mains characters (outside of the Big Four - Jack, Kate, Locke, Sawyer) in the series, and the moderator had a fair share of choices to pick from.
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| Number 3 would be a great way to test someone's claim. I'm the most confirmed player we have...maybe you should redirect Rousseau's vig kill to me and I'll test it on pete d? |
I said "Player 1's ability will be redirected to Player 2," not Player 2 gets Player 1's ability. As in, if Player 1 has a night choice target, I chose who to redirect it to.
| Primate wrote: |
| Fwiw, I think GC is talking out of his ass with that claim. |
Any reason why, or just because? |
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Primate
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Posted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: 278 |
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#1: The previous day you express large suspicion towards a player, then proceed to investigate someone who totally different.
#2:I find it odd that you receive details considering rolenames when my character actually goes up to people and has conversations with them, in my results PM, and I get absolutely no hint about roles at all.
#3: The claim is so much more complicated than everything we've experienced so far it's untrue. It seems completely out of character for this game.
#4: Most obscure role name of all, even including Danielle.
#5: "Sacrifice yourself to the Island". The timing of the kill, in the post-lynch scene, seems bizzarre, and too convenient for a scum. |
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Nauplius
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Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 4:53 am Post subject: 279 |
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| Primate wrote: |
Naupilus, I think it's come to the point where we need to know what you do. I am an uncounterclaimed cop with an innocent investigation on me. CDB is an uncounterclaimed mason. We can kill everyone except us three by tomorrow, and it's the best play to do so. Thing is, despite your voting record, I'm not convinced enough to put you in the confirmed list. If any of us three is scum, they can simply kill another one of the three and endgame the other one. That's what we must avoid.
Fwiw, I think GC is talking out of his ass with that claim. |
I'm confused. Where were you confirmed as innocent? By the same person you say is talking out of his ass? I'm not convinced enough to put you in the confirmed list either. However, I believe you are more likely town than GC or wld is. I also believe that if lynching GC today doesn't end the game, then vigging wld tonight probably will. For what it's worth my ability is that I'm unkillable at night. I don't believe that it's going to come in to play during this game unless you are scum as well. |
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ChannelDelibird
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Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 8:29 am Post subject: 280 |
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*thread-prod* _________________ The CDB Desk blog |
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