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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: 1041 Reply with quote

Reposting to correct error.

Cephrir wrote:
If I am lynched, my block doesn't go through for the next block. So, say I block Sefer this block (which I am). If I'm lynched, Sefer isn't blocked. I agree that we should lynch AZu, but we seem to be getting some discussion, so I won't vote yet.


If you lynch me this CB, they are going to lynch you tomorrow. There is no way Sefer will vote for himself and Thok has already stated :

Thok wrote:
we lynch you, then Cephrir, then Sefer, and use Cephrir's block to keep Sefer from killing.


If you are suspicous of Sefer as you have stated you are, we have to lynch him now. Sefer and Thok both agreed to the plan of lynching Courk-Cephrir-Sefer and are now both going back on that even though no new information has come to light. They refuse to make any real point against me , besides a dislike for my play, and don't bother themselves with trying to figure out who killed Livingod if not me.The only reason I can see for this is because (at least on Sefer's part) not going back on the plan means Sefer is lynched tomorrow. If Sefer is to be spared , I must be lynched today or its over.

I thought you were suspicious of Sefer, why do you all of a sudden believe I should be the one to be lynched? Do you really find me more suspicious than Sefer cause that is what it has come down to.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:18 pm    Post subject: 1042 Reply with quote

PSST-Lauritz Melchior agreed to the lynch Courk-Cephrir-Sefer plan. I (his replacement) never really had a say in it. Don't try to put words in my mouth.

Also, my lynch Azu-Cephrir-Sefer plan was suggested only with me believing that a dead Cephrir could roleblock Sefer for us. I'm not atually sure who'd I find scummier of the two of them (Cephrir has a more confirmed role that can't really fit in with the stuff we need to the mafia, while Sefer has been much more active in trying to actually hunt scum.)
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: 1043 Reply with quote

So you don't find Sefer change of heart suspicious?? And why would Sefer looking for scum vouch for his innocence? Wouldn't he act in the exact same way if he were scum? Pretended to be looking for scum so that he seems helpful?
And can you please finally tell me why it is that you don't believe my claim? You refuse to adress this point. What makes you believe it wasn't me that killed Livingod? And if it wasn't me who was it? Once again what makes you believe I am scum besides the fact that don't believe I have participated enough? Why are you not accusing Cephrir of the same thing?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 10:44 pm    Post subject: 1044 Reply with quote

There is no benefit to lynching Sefer this choice block. Assuming nothing weird happening, we have a choice of lynching Azu today and Sefer next block, or Cephrir today and Sefer next choice block.

I also don't find his change of heart suspicious, as much as evidence that town has gotten lazy while I've been away. The Courk lynch s basically evidence of that.

As for your claim-I don't know who killed Livingod; I think the answer involves Green Canyons in some way. But I believe your actions/the way you cling to that claim means that I'd be better off not trusting it.

And now it's time for "Why Azu is scum"

1. Lets play the "Why was Thok temporarily turned into a box choice block 2?" game. From looking it over, I think it was clearly because of my post 254

Thok wrote:
Also if people aren't interested in pursing CDB2, I'd be willing to wagon any of Talzor, theo, Sefer, or Azu. Don't see the basis for a Living God wagon.


Note that while I was wrong about LG, I'm right about at least 3/5 of the people I wanted lynched (CDB2, Talzor, and Theo were all scum). The remaining two people are alive, and I find it likely that the remaining scum lies in that group.

It's worthwhile noting how people reacted to my post. CDB2 obviously lurked. Theo and Azu basically had a similar reaction (to ask me for reasons). Talzor didn't respond except to react to a later vote where I gave my argument against him. Sefer basically did his own thing and didn't worry about he accusation. Some other members of town and GC made their comments about what they thought about my suspicions.

(It's worthwhile noting that GC made comments about not seeing reasons to wagon Theo and Talzor, and not agreeing with me about Livingod.)

2. Inconsistancy with lurkers-Azu made a fairly major ruckus about how it was scummy that he was being pressured for lurking. Then he proceeded to FOS/vote wldhrtcg for lurking. He also voted Moe for lurking (although also for claimfishing)

3. Wasn't on the shine wagon, and tried to get pressure on LM, Sefer, and pete d when they switched from voting Azu to voting shine.

4. Your holding back of your claim, at a time where there was little to no reason for it. (Cephrir also held back his role, but there's much more reason for a roleblocker to try to avoid revealing himself than a one shot vig.) You basically only claimed under pain of death. Then you only claimed your role power when asked. And then you only claimed the flavor of your killing method when asked.

5. Azu's voting record
Random vote: Theo
Bandwagon spelling vote for YeniSehir
Vote Rubberduck for wanting a quick lynch on Yenisehir, who you were just voting.
Bandwagon vote on Fritzler
Bandwagon Vote on Livingod with no reason attached
"Mistake" vote for Talzor
Vote LM for putting lurker pressure on you
vote wldhrtcg for lurking
vote Moe for lurking/claim fishing
Late votes on Theo when it was obvious he was going to be lynched. (One of these was immediately followed by the second Thok kill, as Fuldu pointed out.)
An essentially OMGUS vote on Sefer
An essentially OMGUS vote on Cephrir
(Note, you then proceed to FOS Moe, never vote him, but claim to have a vote on him for a long period of time.)
When the whole discussion of what order to lynch Courk/Cephrir/Sefer happened, you started the day by saying Courk was almst certainly innocent. And then you disappeared for a while. And then when you cae back, you basically agreed with the whole lynch Courk plan, despite your previous belief that she was protown.
Moreover, in the latter blocks you've been fairly reluctant to place a vote.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: 1045 Reply with quote

Underlining mine.

Thok wrote:

1. Lets play the "Why was Thok temporarily turned into a box choice block 2?" game. From looking it over, I think it was clearly because of my post 254

Thok wrote:
Also if people aren't interested in pursing CDB2, I'd be willing to wagon any of Talzor, theo, Sefer, or Azu. Don't see the basis for a Living God wagon.


Note that while I was wrong about LG, I'm right about at least 3/5 of the people I wanted lynched (CDB2, Talzor, and Theo were all scum). The remaining two people are alive, and I find it likely that the remaining scum lies in that group.


Based on what?? Just because you made a list and three of those people turned up scum does not mean there is some higher probability that I am scum just because you had me on that list. Basically you are citing your intuition as reasons to lynch me. Besides which Sefer is on that list too.


Thok wrote:


4. Your holding back of your claim, at a time where there was little to no reason for it. (Cephrir also held back his role, but there's much more reason for a roleblocker to try to avoid revealing himself than a one shot vig.) You basically only claimed under pain of death. Then you only claimed your role power when asked. And then you only claimed the flavor of your killing method when asked.


I claimed as soon as Courk indicated she was willing to vote for me. Before that it was basically just Sefer asking for my claim. Hardly a reason to claim. As far as not blurting out all the information about my role, I don't think anyone claimed both there role name and power at once. In fact at that point I think I was one of the first to claim my power. Finally I am up till now one of the few that have divulged the flavor text of their role.


Thok wrote:

When the whole discussion of what order to lynch Courk/Cephrir/Sefer happened, you started the day by saying Courk was almst certainly innocent. And then you disappeared for a while. And then when you cae back, you basically agreed with the whole lynch Courk plan, despite your previous belief that she was protown.


You cannot pin Courk's lynch on me. I was one of the few people that disagreed with the plan and stood up for Courk. I finally only voted for her just before the CB's deadline when it was obvious that everyone else (except Fuldu and me) were for the plan. If you are looking for those responsible for Courk's lynch I suggest you take a look at Sefer. He was the one who supported it the most, basically because he knew if it wasn't Courk it could very well be him.



Thok wrote:

Moreover, in the latter blocks you've been fairly reluctant to place a vote.


Everyone has been reluctant to place a vote. In the previous CB we even agreed not to place votes so the scum couldn't lynch someone by piling on votes.

Thok wrote:
There is no benefit to lynching Sefer this choice block. Assuming nothing weird happening, we have a choice of lynching Azu today and Sefer next block, or Cephrir today and Sefer next choice block.


Basically you are willing to vote anyone as long as it isn't Sefer. You are willing to vote Cephrir today and yet you are simultaneously trying to reassure him that you won't lynch him tomorrow. You know that if Cephrir catches wind of your plan to lynch him tomorrow there is no way he will unvote Sefer. I am pretty much convinced at this point that you and Sefer are somehow working together. Everything you and LM have posted during the past two CBs are all meant to help Sefer at some level.

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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:37 pm    Post subject: 1046 Reply with quote

AZu wrote:
Underlining mine.

Thok wrote:

1. Lets play the "Why was Thok temporarily turned into a box choice block 2?" game. From looking it over, I think it was clearly because of my post 254

Thok wrote:
Also if people aren't interested in pursing CDB2, I'd be willing to wagon any of Talzor, theo, Sefer, or Azu. Don't see the basis for a Living God wagon.


Note that while I was wrong about LG, I'm right about at least 3/5 of the people I wanted lynched (CDB2, Talzor, and Theo were all scum). The remaining two people are alive, and I find it likely that the remaining scum lies in that group.


Based on what?? Just because you made a list and three of those people turned up scum does not mean there is some higher probability that I am scum just because you had me on that list. Basically you are citing your intuition as reasons to lynch me. Besides which Sefer is on that list too.


Intuition for which Thok 1 was killed by the mafia! That gives it extra weight.

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Thok wrote:


4. Your holding back of your claim, at a time where there was little to no reason for it. (Cephrir also held back his role, but there's much more reason for a roleblocker to try to avoid revealing himself than a one shot vig.) You basically only claimed under pain of death. Then you only claimed your role power when asked. And then you only claimed the flavor of your killing method when asked.


I claimed as soon as Courk indicated she was willing to vote for me. Before that it was basically just Sefer asking for my claim. Hardly a reason to claim. As far as not blurting out all the information about my role, I don't think anyone claimed both there role name and power at once. In fact at that point I think I was one of the first to claim my power. Finally I am up till now one of the few that have divulged the flavor text of their role.


Actually, Fuldu claimed all of his information at once. I believe LM did so also. Fuldu (in fact) had more reason to try to guard his claim than you did.

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When the whole discussion of what order to lynch Courk/Cephrir/Sefer happened, you started the day by saying Courk was almst certainly innocent. And then you disappeared for a while. And then when you cae back, you basically agreed with the whole lynch Courk plan, despite your previous belief that she was protown.


You cannot pin Courk's lynch on me. I was one of the few people that disagreed with the plan and stood up for Courk. I finally only voted for her just before the CB's deadline when it was obvious that everyone else (except Fuldu and me) were for the plan. If you are looking for those responsible for Courk's lynch I suggest you take a look at Sefer. He was the one who supported it the most, basically because he knew if it wasn't Courk it could very well be him.


You did not argue against Courk's lynch. You lurked while others convinced themselves that lynching Courk was a good idea, and went along with it so that you wouldn't actually have to make a stand.

I'm not arguing that you are scummy because you tried to get Courk lynched. I'm arguing that you are scummy because you basically didn't try to make anything more than a token effort to stop that lynch.

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Thok wrote:

Moreover, in the latter blocks you've been fairly reluctant to place a vote.


Everyone has been reluctant to place a vote. In the previous CB we even agreed not to place votes so the scum couldn't lynch someone by piling on votes.


Replace "make a vote" by state an opinion, and it still applies to you and basically nobody else.

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Thok wrote:
There is no benefit to lynching Sefer this choice block. Assuming nothing weird happening, we have a choice of lynching Azu today and Sefer next block, or Cephrir today and Sefer next choice block.


Basically you are willing to vote anyone as long as it isn't Sefer. You are willing to vote Cephrir today and yet you are simultaneously trying to reassure him that you won't lynch him tomorrow. You know that if Cephrir catches wind of your plan to lynch him tomorrow there is no way he will unvote Sefer. I am pretty much convinced at this point that you and Sefer are somehow working together. Everything you and LM have posted during the past two CBs are all meant to help Sefer at some level.

FOS Thok


1. I'm confirmed by Moe's death.
2. I am not lynching Sefer today because of the numbers. I am specifically targetting you today because I think you are massively scummy.
3. If Sefer and I were scum together, the game would already be over. All I'd need to do is send a PM to Amb with a kill.
4. I'm confirmed by Moe's death.

CAN WE LYNCH AZU NOW?
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 11:38 pm    Post subject: 1047 Reply with quote

AZu, you realize that you're trying to assign ulterior motives to someone we've confirmed as a cop, right? And that we know there's only one scum left? There's only one reason Thok or Lauritz would be trying to avoid my lynch; both realize(d) that I'm not scum. Thok realizes that town will lose if I'm lynched this block. Attacking him now just follows your pattern of attacking anyone who votes you. If I were scum, I'd still be here to lynch tomorrow. It will not make town lose to lynch you today unless Cephrir was the scum. I'm aware that I stated yesterday that I thought it likely that you were scum only if it was with Courk; I was wrong. I'm not going to throw the game for town just because I was wrong yesterday, so I'm going to go for the player I find scummiest today.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 12:55 am    Post subject: 1048 Reply with quote

Cephrir, Miss Wormwood, Town Roleblocker is dead. As a normal roleblocker, Cephrir was able to drag one person per choice block into the detention hall and prevent their night actions.

THere are now 4 alive, and thus 3 to lynch.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:03 am    Post subject: 1049 Reply with quote

Well, that proves I'm not scum. AZu clearly did that to lock the vote in on me. Fuldu, it's up to you now.

Mod, can we get a prod on Fuldu? I want to make sure he gets here before deadline.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: 1050 Reply with quote

Curious.

I agree that the kill is probably by Azu, which makes me wonder if he has some trick up his sleeve. Given that we had to kill Theo twice, Azu might have a similar power and may be hoping to survive the choiceblock at this rate.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: 1051 Reply with quote

If I was scum I wouldn't have killed Cephrir at this point. Cephrir's death makes it impossible for me to talk people into voting Cephrir and it is also going to be used by Sefer as an argument on his behalf. Someone is trying to frame me.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: 1052 Reply with quote

WIFOM. If you hadn't kill Cephrir, he was very likely to place the lynching vote on you soon. And as I said, it's possible that you have another trick up your sleeve if you can survive this choice block.

In addition, everybody else is now basically confirmed. (The kill confirms Sefer, Sefer confirms Fuldu, Moe confirms me).

You need to die.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:28 am    Post subject: 1053 Reply with quote

In that you're trying to use it as an argument for you not being scum, it's pretty clearly something you would do as scum in an attempt to show you're not scum.

I'm curious who you think was framing you. I was blocked, and if I were scum I would have killed long ago if that weren't a problem. If it were Thok, scum would have had a cop while town wouldn't have had a cop until the scum cop died; plus, he could have switched his vote to me to end the day and win right now. If it were Fuldu, scum would have two doctors, because I still haven't received any powers, and he, similarly, could have voted to end the day and win when he sent in the kill.

I also note that me being proved innocent hasn't caused you to unvote me.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:29 am    Post subject: 1054 Reply with quote

Heh, more cross posting with Thok! Yay!
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:37 am    Post subject: 1055 Reply with quote

Sefer wrote:
In that you're trying to use it as an argument for you not being scum, it's pretty clearly something you would do as scum in an attempt to show you're not scum.


Are you kidding me? You are the one using it as an argument that you are not scum. In fact you are going as far as claiming that it in fact proves you are not scum.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:41 am    Post subject: 1056 Reply with quote

Yeah, and I have that whole being roleblocked thing to back it up, whereas you have your claim that you wouldn't do it. I couldn't, you say you wouldn't. There's a big difference.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: 1057 Reply with quote

Also looking back at Cephrir posts, we don't in fact know for sure that he was blocking you this CB. We speculated but he never confirmed. Either he didn't block you after all or something else is going on. Perhaps you have multiple abilities and only one of these gets blocked by Cephrir. Would explain how you were able to zap Thok the CB you were blocked.
As far as not unvoting you goes, why would I? I know its not me , so it pretty much has to be you.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 1:53 am    Post subject: 1058 Reply with quote

Sefer wrote:
Yeah, and I have that whole being roleblocked thing to back it up, whereas you have your claim that you wouldn't do it. I couldn't, you say you wouldn't. There's a big difference.


I have the whole killing the godfather thing to back up me role claim while you have nothing to back up yours. Its Sefer and he is coasting through the game using a strong safe claim and a series of "proofs" of his innocence which have been proven wrong time and time again.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 2:00 am    Post subject: 1059 Reply with quote

Reread posts 914, 916, and 967. He was definately blocking me this block.
In that I never zapped Thok, there's no need to explain how I would. And if the block didn't stop kills, and I were scum, I would have been killing long ago, from the time that Cephrir first confirmed he was blocking me during a block. There's no way anyone but you is scum, AZu.
If scum had a safeclaim, Theo would have used it well before I claimed. You've coasted through with the killing LG thing, whether that occured by accident or design, and you've worked yourself into a corner.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: 1060 Reply with quote

AZu wrote:
Sefer wrote:
Yeah, and I have that whole being roleblocked thing to back it up, whereas you have your claim that you wouldn't do it. I couldn't, you say you wouldn't. There's a big difference.


I have the whole killing the godfather thing to back up me role claim while you have nothing to back up yours. Its Sefer and he is coasting through the game using a strong safe claim and a series of "proofs" of his innocence which have been proven wrong time and time again.


Except of course, that the Godfather kill doesn't have to come from you. As I've explained, we can attribute to Green Canyons.

Do you really think that Amb has given the SK absolutely no buffs? If not, then he could have the Livingod vig as a side power.

And that Sefer has actually, you know, made arguments and actually done stuff.

Pro tip-taking one of my arguments against you and altering the details does not a good argument against Sefer make.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 5:01 am    Post subject: 1061 Reply with quote

Thok wrote:
As I've explained, we can attribute to Green Canyons.


How have you explained? When I asked you you said it doesn't matter what happened. How is that explaining? As I have said before it can't be Green Crayons because Green Crayons targeted someone else that choice block.

Thok wrote:

Do you really think that Amb has given the SK absolutely no buffs? If not, then he could have the Livingod vig as a side power.


No. Green Crayon died and his role was revealed , he did not have any of these "buffs". In every other case the dead players abilities were revealed. Why would GC be an exception?

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And that Sefer has actually, you know, made arguments and actually done stuff.



What does that have to do with anything? Sefer has been more aggresive about finding scum. If he were scum he would try to lead the scum hunt in order to steer it away from himself. And what is this "stuff" he has done?? Nothing , he has nothing to show that can back up his claim in the slightest. Basically he has gone through the game coming up with different "proofs", assuring us that it is a waste of time to look at him and that we should be looking elsewhere. How does that behaviour clear him?
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: 1062 Reply with quote

Sefer has lots of good things going for him; he supported the early MNOWAX wagon, he didn't leap onto the Yenisehir wagon, he was on the early Livingod wagon. And that's just choice block 1.

I also noticed your response to Fritzler claiming one-shot vig, which makes no sense if you are a one shot vig (compare it to MGM's response, for example, which was to confirm vote Fritzler and vig him.)

AZu wrote:
Unvote

Till we see if Fritzler is telling the truth. Why kill Mgm though?


Again, there's no reason to believe that Amb has told us everything about GC's role as SK, unless you believe that the SK has no powers, while thetown has multiple coppish types, multiple doccish types, multiple one shot vigs and the mafia has mafia docs, vote manipulation and can make new accounts.

Mod, Please prod or replace Fuldu, so we can actually end the game.
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:41 pm    Post subject: 1063 Reply with quote

Thok wrote:
Sefer has lots of good things going for him; he supported the early MNOWAX wagon, he didn't leap onto the Yenisehir wagon, he was on the early Livingod wagon. And that's just choice block 1.


The Yenisehir bandwagon had nothing to do with the game. We were voting him because of the way he was posting. You know that very well and I find it peculiar that you would try to use that to Sefer defense.
As far as Livingod's bandwagon goes, I don't see how being early on a day one wagon is proof of innocence. At the point that Sefer voted Livingod he was in no real danger. I on the other hand pushed for that same bandwagon much later on , when it had gained momentum and was becoming dangerous to Livingod. In fact I got FOSed by a number of people for pushing that bandwagon.

If Livingod's bandwagon is evidence of anything, it is evidence in my defence not Sefer's.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:15 am    Post subject: 1064 Reply with quote

Bah.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:50 am    Post subject: 1065 Reply with quote

I have prodded as requested.

24 hours.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:11 am    Post subject: 1066 Reply with quote

unvote: Cephrir; vote: AZu

Damn, I picked an interesting couple of days to be out of town.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:54 am    Post subject: 1067 Reply with quote

Yeah, but you got back in time. I'll be interested to find out what did cause LG's death; it threw us off for a long time.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: 1068 Reply with quote

That is 3 votes, and enough to see the end of Azu. Azu was calvins transmogrifier gun and was each CB was able to change a player into a permanent townie. The funny thing is, he turned the role blocker into a vanilla townie on CB1, and Cephrirs choices had no effect for the rest of the game.

That is the end of the game. Town wins.

The death of Livingod? Well that is an interesting story, one I will tell shortly.

Congrats town. Full details will follow.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: 1069 Reply with quote

Thats the last mafia game i'm going to mod for a while. I will be concentrating on Survivor Labyrinth in visitor games. This game is intended to be the most high quality game I have ever produced, and has had a lot of work in the making, so please join us.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:17 am    Post subject: 1070 Reply with quote

I'm glad I suspected AZu not too long ago.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: 1071 Reply with quote

I'm so glad that Azu got killed. I was dreading that he would win... but Amb will fill you guys in.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:52 am    Post subject: 1072 Reply with quote

So close! Oh well, congrats town.
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Talzor
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: 1073 Reply with quote

Congratulation to the town. It looked like a real pushover for a while, with the SK killing both Mafia and himself.
@AZu: Great job, I'm really impressed you managed to take it so far, for a while it even looked like you would pull it off.You really capitalized on the circumstances of LG's death. A shame it wan't you who was 'roleblocked'.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:45 am    Post subject: 1074 Reply with quote

Damn, we lost on the brink of lylo. Oh well, good game, and props to Azu for making it this far. (Although I have to thank my mysterious death as well)

As for the roleblocker being zapped, why didn't Ceph get an indication like LM did?
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: 1075 Reply with quote

After Courk's death I reassessed things and realized that AZu was still more likely scum. I did get lazy and start relying on claimed powers more than I should have. I was worried that I wasn't going to be able to try to get AZu lynched that last CB without turning Fuldu and Cephrir on me; Lauritz probably would have helped me there, but he wasn't really around often enough to help out and convince the other players. No offense to Lauritz, but I'm glad we got Thok in there at the end.

AZu's ability was really powerful. In addition to LG's death, I'd like to know what kept Theo from being lynched the first time; I was assuming AZu had several powerful one shots, but the lynch protection isn't a power we were told about.

Is this the first Deep South town win? I seem to remember the other three all being mafia wins.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: 1076 Reply with quote

Sefer wrote:
I'd like to know what kept Theo from being lynched the first time;


So would I.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:42 pm    Post subject: 1077 Reply with quote

All I can really say is:

What a crazy game.
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Amb
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 1:08 am    Post subject: 1078 Reply with quote

I will post the full details when I get home from work tonight.

I hope the 'crazy' is a good 'crazy' Revenge most foul!
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MNOWAX
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:12 am    Post subject: 1079 Reply with quote

GG you guys as town, but damn i was scum before i asked in for replacement, wasn't I? Bah.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 5:45 am    Post subject: 1080 Reply with quote

Role Info:
Yenisihir, Susie Derkins, Modkilled after a believed cheating offence.
Livingod, Calvin, Modkilled Indirectly. I was genuinely worried that someone accused of cheating could deliberately ruin the game by posting or PMing details of the mafia to other players. I made up a fake death scene to try and ensure that Livingod didnt think the death was a modkill. I felt the game was at risk. I no longer believe livingod to pose such a threat, but at the time I did not know him. The multiple tyre tracks were meant to be something similar to the bike, but I did not think of the implications for the wagon (until the wagon later complained).

Azu Transmogrifier. Azu was transmogrifying players into ordinary townies all game. His choices were:
1.Courk (Failed, Courk was doc protected) 2. Moe (Succeeded) 3. Cephrir (Succeeded) 4. Lauritz (Succeeded) 5.Pete D (Succeeded) 6.Thok 7.None 8.Fuldu (Succeeded)

Fuldu, Bill Watterson, was an ordinary doc.
Sefer Calvins Dad, Back up doc
Lauritz Calvins Mom, Cop
Cephrir Ms Wormwood, Roleblocker
Rubberduck/CourkII Wagon
Moe Rosalyn, Back up Cop (Never would have been upgraded)
Thok Snowman
Theopholis Duplicate I (Skill never used)

Pete D Time Travel Box (1 shot resurrector. After using his 1 shot, Pete D could continue to resurrect, but only with a 50% chance of success. As it happened he succeeded everytime he tried)

Mackay Cerebral Enhanceotron, could extropolate lies/truths from any post number. 1 shot.

MNOWAX / CD2 / Shine Duplicate II
Courk Calvin Ball
Green Crayons Bicycle
Talzor Duplicator

Mgm Hamster Huey
Fritzler Moe (I made a mistake here. The two vig hits were not simultaneous, thus whoever shot the gun first (mgm) should have remained alive. Whoops)

Channel Delibird Uncle Max
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