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pete d
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 Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:04 am Post subject: 1 |
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The mafia planned strategies for their latest venture... "There's something different about this town... Gossip seems to spread like wildfire. Perhaps we can use this to our advantage..."
ALIVE (5/13)
3. Josh-oo-wuh (replacing shanterusan) (masonA)
7. TopHat (replacing Lucresia) (mason1)
9. Adele (cop / gossip)
10. Tseirp (doc)
12. raekuul2 (replacing wldhrtcgd99 (replacing bird1111)) (intuitive cop)
DEAD (8/13)
6. raekuul1 (Role Blocker, innocent, thrown down a well Day 1)
13. lazarusmoth (mason, innocent, poisoned Night 1)
2. Mgm (mafia with an extra vote, exploded Night 1)
1. Cephrir (replacing alyssa86) (mafia GF, thrown down a well Day 2)
4. Livingod (mason, innocent, exploded Night 2)
11. AlexTiefling (AT) (1 shot vig, innocent, poisoned Night 2)
5. DukeBanks (replacing ChannelDelibird) (Gossip SK, lynched Day 3)
8. IH (replacing jadesmar (replacing StallingChamp)) (mafia, lunched Day 4)
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pete d
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:09 am Post subject: 2 |
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Rules (Copied and Pasted from some other mafia game)
THE RULES (stolen from Mgm mostly, as usual)
[00] Newbies should try to make themselves familiar with the basic rules of mafia as described in the FAQ and theory sections on http://www.mafiascum.net (Reading older games wouldn't hurt either)
[01] Have fun and don't be a jerk. Please have consideration for the other players and the mods, and actually PLAY the game by posting and voting. If you cannot post for some reason, please contact the mod.
[02] No communication outside the thread unless your role allows you to do so.
[03] Get your choices in before the deadlines. If not, no choice will be made. Or I might just make an evil choice for you. You have been warned.
[04] No quoting role PMs, night messages or the mods without permission. If you have a death wish, request replacement. When in doubt ask the mod.
[05] If you're dead YOU'RE DEAD. No more posting relevant information after that. One bah post is allowed.
[06] Lynching will be carried out once the number of votes needed is reached.
[07] Only votes in BOLD will be counted. Unvotes are mandatory. eg: Vote: pete d or unvote, vote: pete d
[08] Only votes with players correctly spelled names (or abbreviations, see player list) will count.
[09] Do NOT edit or delete your posts under pain of modkilling! If you made a coding error, just post again.
[10] Do NOT post in invisible text or at night.
[11] The mods are always right. Deal with it.
[12] The game will begin with Day 1, then Night 1, then Day 2, etc...
EXTRA RULES
[13] Each day, certain abilities will be able to spread gossip. This will be in the form "<player> is <innocent/scum>". EG: "You hear a rumour that pete d is scum!". I will announce gossip publicly in the game thread (the player who made the gossip remains anonymous). It is up to you how you choose to interpret these items of gossip.
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pete d
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:10 am Post subject: 3 |
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| It is not yet Day 1. Please confirm ASAP. |
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Livingod
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:15 am Post subject: 4 |
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Here! (raises left hand only to bring it back down quickly in pain)
Hand Update: (from lost mafia) I was eating the skin off of my left thumb when I accidentally revealed my scar yet again. Now portion of left thumb scar revealed; pain returns to me whenever I touch said scar.
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Tseirp
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: 5 |
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Hello everyone, how is you all doing?
Hmm... Livingod was the first person to post...does that mean hes Mafia? |
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Livingod
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:10 am Post subject: 6 |
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I will attempt to answer Tse's question using day 1 logic, as we are going into day 1 and thus, this seems to be the logical thing to do.
I posted first -----------------------------------> Scumtell
I am playing in this game---------------------> Raises my chances of being scum from 0% to 20-25%
I'm replying to Tse's post concerning me -> OMGIS I'm defending myself, scumtell
By that reasoning, conclude at will...
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Tseirp
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: 7 |
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By that you either want us to think that your are not scum...or maybe you are scum and post that to make us think the opposite...
You seem to know whats going on, so you have a good target on yourself for scum, but how much are you trying to play us? |
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bird1111
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:32 am Post subject: 8 |
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I've already confirmed by PM, but here
And I'm confused by both Tserip's and Livingod's behavior so far |
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lazarusmoth
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 2:35 am Post subject: 9 |
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Confirming as well.
Lively discussion. And it isn't even Day 1, heh. |
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Livingod
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:41 am Post subject: 10 |
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Hmm... by more day 1 logic:
let's say that x1 is the seriousness of day 1, x2 of day 2, and so on until x(l) which is the seriousness of the last day.
The seriousness of the day is directly proportional to the amount of information that we have (other than our mod PMs)
By this logic, we can safely assume that the level of seriousness increases as the days progress.
Since at the beginning of day 1 we have no information whatsoever to go on, x1 = 0
Since this is not night, as we can talk, and the next day is Day 1, this must be Day 0
thus, the seriousness of today shall be denoted as x0
By my conclusion on line 3 of the proof, x0 < x1
Thus, x0 < 0
"What is the difference" you say, "between x0 and x1?"
The answer:
x1 = 0, this means that we do not make conscious decisions; we randomly accuse people and jump on bandwagons for no reason.
x0 < 0, this, however, means that we DO indeed make conscious decisions, but our logic is reversed; essentially, we might go: 3+1=?, hmm, we start with 3, then we go down 1, we get 2! 3+1=2 Eureka!
(note that my proof above was in day 1 logic, not day 0)
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bird1111
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:57 am Post subject: 11 |
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| The first part of your post is common sense, the second part doesn't make any sense to me, could you explain it more clearly? |
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Mgm
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:56 am Post subject: 12 |
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| Confirming... |
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Mgm
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: 13 |
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| Tseirp wrote: |
By that you either want us to think that your are not scum...or maybe you are scum and post that to make us think the opposite...
You seem to know whats going on, so you have a good target on yourself for scum, but how much are you trying to play us? |
Gossip may be spreading like wild fire, but paranoia isn't doing a bad job of spreading either. The first to post is usually from the person who is most interested in playing (or they happen to be in the right time zone when the thread opens). First post rarely ever means someone is scum. |
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AlexTiefling
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:18 am Post subject: 14 |
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Confirming.
As I understand Livingod's logic, we know less than nothing, since were in a Day Before Days. Accordingly, Livingod thinks himself wiser than Socrates, who held that the one was wisest who knew he knew nothing. Hence the surreal arithmetic.
AT. |
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Livingod
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: 15 |
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@bird: Sense? What is that? As I have clearly stated in my post, I am using day 1 logic, and the following statement is always true:
(day 1) XOR (sense)
since (day 1) is true, (sense) must be false.
Go figure...
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Livingod
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:40 am Post subject: 16 |
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Sorry, my statement (day 1) XOR (sense) seems to be faulty, I will replace it with the following:
(day 1) IFF ~(sense)
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Mgm
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:08 pm Post subject: 17 |
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| Have any of the newbies played in other places? |
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Adele
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject: 18 |
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| If you count me among the newbies, then yes, bigtime. I've been playing on Mafiascum for about 14-15 months, and I believe I've made over 1000 in-game posts. In fact, I think I've played in a game or two with you, mgm, or do I know you from the discussion forum instead? |
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bird1111
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:08 pm Post subject: 19 |
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| I've played on Scum some |
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Mgm
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 6:53 pm Post subject: 20 |
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| Adele wrote: |
| If you count me among the newbies, then yes, bigtime. I've been playing on Mafiascum for about 14-15 months, and I believe I've made over 1000 in-game posts. In fact, I think I've played in a game or two with you, mgm, or do I know you from the discussion forum instead? |
I don't remember a game I played with you, but then again I played so many of them, it's hard to tell. We definitely know each other from the discussion forum |
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StallingChamp
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: 21 |
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| Here, I have been playing on MS since June 06. |
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Mgm
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: 22 |
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| StallingChamp wrote: |
| Here, I have been playing on MS since June 06. |
Is that June 6 or June 2006? |
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StallingChamp
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:47 pm Post subject: 23 |
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| June 2006. I am also playing in one of Adele's games atm. |
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lazarusmoth
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:35 pm Post subject: 24 |
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| Played some games on mafiascum before, a year ago, I think. |
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pete d
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:36 pm Post subject: 25 |
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still waiting on confirmations from:
1. alyssa86
3. shanterusan
6. raekuul |
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Livingod
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:49 pm Post subject: 26 |
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Hand Update: Went out jogging; left thumb numb.  This means that I can ride out the healing with numbness instead of pain.
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Tseirp
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: 27 |
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| Ive played a bit on scum (like 4-5 games total), and I know that the first post means nothing, but people mock others for even less important things in here, so anything can happen. |
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ChannelDelibird
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: 28 |
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Been playing on Mafiascum since April/May this year, I think.
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AlexTiefling
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: 29 |
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| Mgm wrote: |
| Have any of the newbies played in other places? |
I've both played and run a large amount of Are You A Werewolf, because I'm a Looney Labs Demo Rabbit. I've also run a couple of games on Mafia (one vanilla, one a bit more refined) on another site (where I go by a different identity).
AT. |
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Livingod
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:22 pm Post subject: 30 |
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I've played solely on IRC before, first forum mafia...
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Livingod
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject: 31 |
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Sorry about the multipost but,
Hand Update: Used a scalpel again today, but was extremely careful not to let it anywhere near my left hand. The only skin the scalpel broke was the patient's. 
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StallingChamp
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:22 am Post subject: 32 |
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| Can we maybe prod the people we are still waiting on? |
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Adele
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 2:24 am Post subject: 33 |
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| Livingod wrote: |
Hmm... by more day 1 logic:
let's say that x1 is the seriousness of day 1, x2 of day 2, and so on until x(l) which is the seriousness of the last day.
The seriousness of the day is directly proportional to the amount of information that we have (other than our mod PMs)
By this logic, we can safely assume that the level of seriousness increases as the days progress.
Since at the beginning of day 1 we have no information whatsoever to go on, x1 = 0
Since this is not night, as we can talk, and the next day is Day 1, this must be Day 0
thus, the seriousness of today shall be denoted as x0
By my conclusion on line 3 of the proof, x0 < x1
Thus, x0 < 0
"What is the difference" you say, "between x0 and x1?"
The answer:
x1 = 0, this means that we do not make conscious decisions; we randomly accuse people and jump on bandwagons for no reason.
x0 < 0, this, however, means that we DO indeed make conscious decisions, but our logic is reversed; essentially, we might go: 3+1=?, hmm, we start with 3, then we go down 1, we get 2! 3+1=2 Eureka!
(note that my proof above was in day 1 logic, not day 0) |
Pretty sure this is pure tosh. Why are we excluding our mod PMs, isn't there a second factor in serioussness besides information (ie. status - GG:BG ratios etc), and given we have no information now, isn't x1 the "seriousness" (ie informedness) of day 0 - aren't we now at the point where we have nothing much to go on, but still have functional systems of logic in place?
If you want a point-by-point debunking of your argument, I will greatly enjoy providing it 
Look, tells at this point are weak, and should be treated as such. However, let's not go down the path of only using "hard" info - death patterns, cop investigations and so forth - because a town that only uses those is a town asking for a defeat. Besides which, random and pseudo-random bandwagons at this stage can be hugely beneficial at later stages, by forcing all players to make a call and so laying down a papertrail that can be reinvestigated down the line when there's more hard evidence in play, or even by provoking an "overly" response that can lead to a good Day 1 lynch.
In other words? No, I for one am not treating this game stage as nonexistent or irrelevent, and I think it's a (weak) tell that you're encouraging people to do that. |
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Livingod
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: 34 |
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my "proofs" were meant to be debunked. As you can tell, I have no intention of taking them seriously myself. I was just getting the day 1 mood going. I agree with Mgm that paranoia has quickly set in; this is VERY uncommon for a GL game. (as far as the games I've played/read)
Loosen up, don't take day 1 THAT seriously, just look for a good lynch candidate. And don't look for candidates by what they say, instead by how they act.
Now I'm just itching to vote someone right now, but seeing as how everyone so far is trigger-happy, I will go for the safe bet of Vote: ChannelDelibird for the sake of old times, shall I say.
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Livingod
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: 35 |
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Upon revelation, unvote, vote: pete d
I don't believe his roleclaim
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pete d
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 3:59 am Post subject: 36 |
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| shanterusan has just confirmed. prodded raekuul and alyssa86 |
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shanterusan
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: 37 |
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| shanterusan also apologises most humbly for the delay and says hello to all. |
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Adele
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: 38 |
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While I'm enjoying the hatin', are we supposed to vote in pre-game? No harm no foul, I guess...
...and I got about a half hour's chuckles from your argument. People always think I'm angsty when I ain't. Didn't you see the smiley? T'was smiley. |
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pete d
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| Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2006 11:23 pm Post subject: 39 |
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| Seeing as Cephrir already replaced alyssa86 in lost mafia, and raekuul seems to be more likely to participate at this stage, Cephrir will replace alyssa86. |
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Lucresia
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: 40 |
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Are we still waiting on anyone?
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