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GOSSIP MAFIA - Game Over, Town wins
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Tseirp
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 11:03 pm    Post subject: 441 Reply with quote

I dont honestly know where to go for now, the game has sort of stalled out. I sort of belive adele, I sort of dont. All I can say about Adele is repeat that I hope to hell you are telling the truth.

As for leads, I am a bit suspicious of wld, as I have been for quite a while (since even before wld replaced into the game).

For Duke, I havent seen enough to actually vote for him.

Because of that, I will remain voteless.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: 442 Reply with quote

It's probably the truth because it meshes with my role perfectly. I think we should keep going after Duke.
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IH
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: 443 Reply with quote

....vote:DukeBanks


I think we have time to try and prove if Adele is innocent or not. = D [/b]
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: 444 Reply with quote

Just wanted to say something in case: right now we're probably 5/1/1 town/mafia/SK. Absolute worst case for us, we lynch an innocent today and two innocents die at night, and we wake up at 2/1/1. In this case, the town should NOT try to lynch scum, since lynching the SK hands the win to the mafia, and vice versa.

What the townies should do in this case, is either deadlock the vote to no-lynch, or try to actually lynch an innocent, insane as it may sound. In this case, night starts at 1/1/1, and we have a chance to win by crosskill. In fact, if I'm alive tomorrow in this scenario, I volunteer to lynch myself. If not, well, just lynch whoever seems the most town, or no-lynch.

Again, this is just a contingency scenario in case the @#$! hits the fan. Otherwise, ignore.
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Adele
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:34 am    Post subject: 445 Reply with quote

TopHat wrote:
Adele,

Why won't you practice what you preach then and drop a 3rd vote on ol' Duke? That'll certainly encourage him to claim, eh?
Oh, yes, let's lynch a replacement before he's been in the game more'n a couple days. That way we'll have nothing useful to go off.

Dukebanks is not at lynch-1. A single extra vote on him, whether from town, scum or sk, ends the day and practically pitches us into endgame. I'd like to here from the other gossiper - owning up, and a claim, ideally - I'd like to hear a lot more from Duke (since if he was just posting his first reaction, it's a shame to drop him on the basis of that one post) and I'd really like people to not be too lynch-happy today. There's no reason for it to end up like yesterday, which was extreme, but I'd really like as good a lynch today as is possible.
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AlexTiefling
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: 446 Reply with quote

Bah! Go town!

AT
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Adele
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: 447 Reply with quote

Adele wrote:
Dukebanks is not at lynch-1
I coulda sworn I said
Adele shoulda wrote:
Dukebanks is at lynch-1
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:15 pm    Post subject: 448 Reply with quote

Adele wrote:
TopHat wrote:
Adele,

Why won't you practice what you preach then and drop a 3rd vote on ol' Duke? That'll certainly encourage him to claim, eh?
Oh, yes, let's lynch a replacement before he's been in the game more'n a couple days. That way we'll have nothing useful to go off.

Dukebanks is not at lynch-1. A single extra vote on him, whether from town, scum or sk, ends the day and practically pitches us into endgame. I'd like to here from the other gossiper - owning up, and a claim, ideally - I'd like to hear a lot more from Duke (since if he was just posting his first reaction, it's a shame to drop him on the basis of that one post) and I'd really like people to not be too lynch-happy today. There's no reason for it to end up like yesterday, which was extreme, but I'd really like as good a lynch today as is possible.


IH was right, you really are showing an irregular amount of mercy. Jury still out on whether it's good or bad.
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Adele
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: 449 Reply with quote

I'd really hate to lose just because people got bored or lynch-happy. The guy has more votes to his name than posts. That's ridiculous. If it's irregular for me to be this cautious, okay, sorry, whatever. It feels normal to me but then, doesn't it always?

I'm gonna consider every post lacking a "I sent the Adele=Scum gossip" claim a "I didn't" claim from here on in. If you did it, 'fess up.

btw, In case it's still not clear, I gossiped as a way of codifying my investigations; I hope (f'rexample) if I'd been murdered last night instead of AT you could've looked at my posting history, seen my one-a-day commitment and extrapolated that Tseirp was cop-cleared. That's why I said "everyone who can gossip should gossip as much as they can", and it's why I didn't claim the gossip as my own until now.
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: 450 Reply with quote

Adele wrote:
I'd really hate to lose just because people got bored or lynch-happy. The guy has more votes to his name than posts.


The onus on remedying this situation lies mostly on him. I would like to see him having more posts, not necessarily less votes. But yeah, no hammering yet!

In fact, Unvote just in case. However, Duke, consider yourself virtually at 3 votes still.
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DukeBanks
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:44 pm    Post subject: 451 Reply with quote

Sorry for the lack of posts, guys. I've been loaded up with schoolwork. Anyhow, there's one thing that I want to clarify. I wasn't completely pointing a FoS at Adele there, it was just based on initial reactions. As for the comments on lynching, I would have to say that this one is crucial. A bit obvious, I realize, but there is a possibility of 2 innocents killed tonight, which would leave us balanced rather precariously. I don't really see how sacrificing an innocent would help, though, as someone stated.
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:48 pm    Post subject: 452 Reply with quote

I find your lack of claim disturbing.
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DukeBanks
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: 453 Reply with quote

RC: mason
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IH
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: 454 Reply with quote

So... how many masons would we have then?

-_-;;

I think a ======[ ] is in order.
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Josh-oo-wuh
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:05 am    Post subject: 455 Reply with quote

DukeBanks wrote:
RC: mason


Shocked

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaallyyyyyyy???

That's a bold move, brotha.

Know why?

I'm a mason.

And I'll do ya one better:

Livingod was my mason partner.

Now...

Tell me just why it is we shouldn't lynch you. My vote is at the ready. Better do some mighty fine 'splaining.
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Josh-oo-wuh
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 6:07 am    Post subject: 456 Reply with quote

EBWOP

Dammit. I meant to say lazarusmoth was my partner, NOT Livingod.

But still, double-you-tee-eff Duke?
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: 457 Reply with quote

DukeBanks, who were you mason with?
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: 458 Reply with quote

Also, AFTER DukeBanks responds to the question above, I suggest we do a full claim. Adele, myself and Josh already have claims out there, Tseirp (being investigated innocent) should claim last, so I suggest the order is:

1. Duke clarifies his mason partner
2. IH
3. wldhrt
4. Tseirp
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Tseirp
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: 459 Reply with quote

Ok...so josh is partnered with moth, TopHat is partnered with Livingod, and Duke is partnered as well? Im not buying the claim of a third pair of masons, Duke is trying to hide something.

Vote:Duke
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: 460 Reply with quote

You are kindly requested not to hammer yet. We need closure on the claims. Also, if (against all odds) we do wind up in a 2-1-1 endgame tomorrow, please remember post 444. Thanks in advance.
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Tseirp
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: 461 Reply with quote

Honestly, with Adele now clean (to me currently), I feel that the main lead is towards Duke, and if he really wants to go and not tell us who his partner is, then he is trying to hide something, and is lying about his role. Unless he is Mafia/SK, why would he lie about his role, and why would we have 6 masons in the game?
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Adele
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: 462 Reply with quote

As far as I'm concerned, Dukebanks was counterclaimed by Josh, and one of the two is scum (unless we get a third claim, exactly one). If we have a vig in the house, then it's a simple case of lynch one vig other, but if not, then from my POV there are two bad guys left standing:

Josh OR Duke (I've distrusted Josh for yonks, so it's 50-50 for me)
AND
Wldcrd OR IH

(this is assuming that Tophat's not a scum-mason and Tseirp's not inv-immune SK, which both seem fair assumptions in a game with a dead GF)

Just wanted to raise that point.
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pete d
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: 463 Reply with quote

You hear a rumour that DukeBanks is innocent!
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pete d
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:45 am    Post subject: 464 Reply with quote

vote count:

DukeBanks (3): wld, IH, Tseirp

not voting (4): DukeBanks, Adele, Josh, TopHat

it takes 4 to lunch
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Adele
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: 465 Reply with quote

Sorry, no dice. If the gossiper wants to influence me, he'll need to say who he is and how he knows the stuff. The existance of the rumour is of no use by itself.
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Josh-oo-wuh
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: 466 Reply with quote

I want to address Adele's last two posts, starting with the most recent. I agree that the gossip alone really doesn't help. I'm just ignoring it.

As for the other post, here it is, with a bolded emphasis added by me:

Adele wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, Dukebanks was counterclaimed by Josh, and one of the two is scum (unless we get a third claim, exactly one). If we have a vig in the house, then it's a simple case of lynch one vig other, but if not, then from my POV there are two bad guys left standing:

Josh OR Duke (I've distrusted Josh for yonks, so it's 50-50 for me)
AND
Wldcrd OR IH

(this is assuming that Tophat's not a scum-mason and Tseirp's not inv-immune SK, which both seem fair assumptions in a game with a dead GF)

Just wanted to raise that point.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you proposing that we kill off two people where only one is scum? This would be especially odd if we did lynch one of the two you suggest, they turn up scum, and we STILL lynch the other.

The idea sounds so asinine that I can't imagine I'm reading your post correctly, because if that's what you mean you're just plain bonkers or scum.
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: 467 Reply with quote

I believe she meant, lynch one, and if he's innocent vig the other. At least that's how I'm reading it.
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DukeBanks
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:40 pm    Post subject: 468 Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with TopHat here.
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Josh-oo-wuh
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: 469 Reply with quote

Ah, okay. That makes a lot more sense.
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Adele
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 12:13 am    Post subject: 470 Reply with quote

TopHat wrote:
I believe she meant, lynch one, and if he's innocent vig the other. At least that's how I'm reading it.
That wasn't implied? Sorry, Josh.
And I'm talking lynch-one-vig other, since what was said earlier about us potentially going into 2-1-1 tomorrow was true, so if we don't have a vig, the plan's moot.
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 2:26 pm    Post subject: 471 Reply with quote

Riiiight,

So, DukeBanks passed on the opportunity to clarify his claim, and he's definitely the lynch for today. I'd like to hear some more from IH and wldhrt, and then we'll be ready to hammer.
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IH
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: 472 Reply with quote

Tophat, I'd like you to explain the order of your massclaim.

In other words, why did you want that order to go.
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: 473 Reply with quote

Because wldhrt was fairly active in the game, and we can get some kind of read on her based on the posts. You, on the other hand, are a clean slate. Both your predecessors hardly said anything; that's why I'd like you to go first.
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Adele
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:04 am    Post subject: 474 Reply with quote

TopHat wrote:
Because wldhrt was fairly active in the game, and we can get some kind of read on her based on the posts. You, on the other hand, are a clean slate. Both your predecessors hardly said anything; that's why I'd like you to go first.
/agree.

Full claims, please, including whether you're a gossip, and all choices you've made so far.
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Josh-oo-wuh
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:18 pm    Post subject: 475 Reply with quote

I'll glady clarify my entire role. As said before, I was lazarusmoth's mason partner. Also, I am not a gossip.

I equal vanilla townie now.

Who's next?
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IH
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: 476 Reply with quote

Alright, I'm a backup. I can't gossip unless I backup a role that could gossip. I haven't used it yet. Will probably use it tonight.
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TopHat
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: 477 Reply with quote

IH wrote:
Alright, I'm a backup. I can't gossip unless I backup a role that could gossip. I haven't used it yet. Will probably use it tonight.


I believe I speak for everyone when I say "I don't get this". What does it mean, "unless I backup a role that could gossip"?
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Tseirp
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: 478 Reply with quote

Yea, IH, what does the whole backup thing mean? I have never heard of a role using a "backup" before, and honestly, I really am not buying it.
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Adele
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: 479 Reply with quote

Just in case anyone's wondering, IH managed to author over 50 posts on MafiaScum since the last post in this game. So, he appears to be deliberately avoiding answering a simple question. Should we continue waiting, or move on to wld?
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Adele
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:59 am    Post subject: 480 Reply with quote

^^^I am of course assuming that the IH here is the same person as the IH there.
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