GOSSIP MAFIA - Game Over, Town wins

[TopHat]

I believe wldhrt also dropped off the face of the earth. Her last post on the forum was Feb 4th. Mod, could we get prods on inactive players please?

[Tseirp]

Both of them seem to be trying to hide something...think that it could be they are the SK/Maf?

[Adele]

[pete d]

raekuul (hopefully) replaces wldhrtcgd99.

[IH]

I'm extremely sorry guys! I forgot all about my games here (cop mafia being the other).

[Adele]

take over their role for 1 night or forever?

[TopHat]

Well, we have a dead vig and a dead roleblocker.

I suggest that, if DukeBank turns out to be the 3rd (and hopefully the last)mafia, you can backup a RB and block someone we're suspicious of, eg. wldhrt. If there's an exploding kill overnight, this clears wldhrt from being the SK.

And if DukeBanks turns out to be innocent, you need of course to backup a vig and kill Josh.

Do you guys have any better ideas or corrections to this?

[TopHat]

Oh, and I would also like wldhrt/raekuul/whoever to claim please.

[Adele]

Not 100% sure I agree with that plan, Tophat (not 100% sure I disagree either, I'm just thinking through options)

Yeah and I'd really like Raekul's claim. It confused me for a minute that a player replaced back into a game where he's been lynched, but he had no priveledged info at time of death I suppose. Mod knows best.

Raekull: no hard feelings I hope?

[Josh-oo-wuh]

While I agree that DukeBanks is likely to be mafia (or scum, anyway), I don't think that proving him innocent necessarily proves him guilty. Given the twist on this game, I'm starting to think that there actually could be several sets of masons. Of course, even that wouldn't mean they're all pro-town. I still think Duke is a guilty man, but I wanted to get those thoughts out there.

[TopHat]

Not to be a vig-directing killmonger, but I honestly fail to see any scenario in which you are both innocent. Please let me know what I'm missing.

[Adele]

[Tseirp]

We know there are two mason pairs (moth-??? and Livingod-TopHat), so I doubt that there is a third pair.

[Josh-oo-wuh]

Well, like I said, I do find Dukes' claim unlikely, due to the fact that I'm lazarusmoth's partner, but I'm simply saying it's not automatically impossible.

However, I do think it can be NEARLY definitively proven right or wrong. And that means Dukes' mason partner would have to reveal themself. Or Duke could reveal them.

Anyone disagree? I'm open to suggestion.

[TopHat]

Every one of the presently living had either voted DukeBanks today, or claimed significant suspicion of him, or claimed a non-mason role. I just don't see anyone who could be potentially his partner (and alive). But if I'm wrong, and the partner is there, go ahead and claim, prove me wrong.

[Josh-oo-wuh]

Point well made.

Vote: DukeBanks

I'm not sure if I had done that yet, but I'm now 100% settled on that vote.

[raekuul]

Replacing wldhrtcgd99.

Adele: None taken. It was my fault, after all.

[raekuul]

Full RC:

I'm an intuitive cop, I investigate an item of gossip from the previous day to find out the alignment of whoever made it. so far I have results: day 1 "Mgm is scum" came from a cop; day 2 "Tseirp is innocent" came from a cop. good luck. you replace wldhrtcgd99.

Will be invesatigating the second Adele one to-nite.

[raekuul]

Ehh... yeah... All signs point to the "newest" mason, DukeBanks. Vote:DukeBanks

[TopHat]

I count 4 on him already, but what the heck, overkill is cool. Vote DukeBanks

[Adele]

Awesome. So, if Dukebanks comes up guilty, I don't think IH should block raekuul but vig him; if rae's the last scum the game'll end there, wheras if IH is the final scum then rae will still die but come up townsperson and we know to lynch IH.

If Dukebanks comes up innocent, though, I think IH should vig either Josh or rae (who IH should know at that point, if he's telling the truth, to both be guilty). I'd personally favour a vig on Rae still; since I'm convinced that IH's alignment is the inverse of Rae's, we'll know once Rae's dead if we need to lynch IH, wheras if Duke comes up innocent tonight, and Josh is the only overnight death, what do we do tomorrow? - on the other hand, at least in that scenario we'd be guaranteed one scum down. Bah, I dunno. I guess I'm okay with a vig in that case on either Josh or Rae, and if both survive to tomorrow, we go from there.

If you get a chance to say who you'll attack tonight, IH, before the day ends, it'd help me make my nightchoice.

btw, I trust raekuul more than IH right now, I think. his claim fits the comments and behaviours of his predecessors, and I don't know why the vig'd stay in the first 2 nights of the game.

[TopHat]

I disagree that raekuul should be vigged even if Duke is innocent. If Duke is innocent, let the vig take care of the obvious target, and let the town decide on the non-obvious target by discussion. (As an aside note, what's up with the raekuul vendetta, Adele? Do you have an additional win condition "must kill same player twice" or something like that?!?)

[Adele]

OK

[Josh-oo-wuh]

Please don't vig me. I have no argument for why you shouldn't, other than just being townie and not fond of dying.

The plan discussed above seems fairly sound though, overall. Good work town!

[IH]

[Adele]

[raekuul]

Adele, I'm investigating the second bit of gossip involving you!!

[Adele]

[pete d]

The town gathers around DukeBanks.

And lynches him.

What an anticlimax.

DukeBanks was a SK with a gossip ability

get yer choices in quick smarts

[pete d]

The town wakes on dawn and gathers in the village square.

Hey, there's 7 people missing! someone says

Ummm... would those be the 7 people already killed and lynched so far?

Oh yeah. Forgot about that.

No one else is dead...

With 6 alive, it takes 4 to lunch.

[Tseirp]

So here we go, with 6 still alive, and no deaths last night. That means we have at least one scum left. The question is, who really blocked the scum? If we narrow down all of our choices and figure out who was blocked, then we have a great chance at nailing who it really was.

[Josh-oo-wuh]

I sort of needed to refresh myself, so I've done a partial re-reading of the thread. Here's my thoughts on each player now:

TopHat - He replaced Lucresia, who was confirmed to be Livingod's mason buddy. He's kosher, I believe.

Tseirp - He semi-claimed back when we were lynching Ceph, stating that his role and the role Ceph was claiming (some sort of doc) could not exist in the same game. Ceph's claim was false, so I think Tseirp's claim is credible. Plus, given recent events, I think I know what Tseirp's role is. He seems okay to me.

Adele - She made a claim about being a gossiping cop, and even pointed out what gossip she started. This claim has come across pretty reasonable and legit so far, even though it's not 100% confirmed, but that's enough for me to believe her.

Josh-oo-wuh - Again, I was lazarusmoth's mason partner. I'm good.

That leaves the following two people:

raekuul - Hard to get a solid read on, but I think he's just rusty as a player. He made a claim earlier about being a gossip cop. It's hard to know if that's a legit claim, but since he hasn't been overtly scummy, I'm letting him slide.

IH - A few pages back, there was some discussion of lynching Adele. It got to the point that Adele was at lynch -2. Now, I could only find two people voting for her at that time (correct me if I'm wrong) - Tseirp and IH. Here's the thing: if the remaining scum at that point was not already voting for her, they would have stacked on another vote at this point, but no one did. That makes me think one of the two was scum, and as I stated before, I beleive Tseirp.

So, presently, I think IH is the most suspicious among us. I'll hold off on a vote until there's some discussion, but I will FoS: IH.

[IH]

[Tseirp]

Well, here is where the **** hits the fan. I was actually planning today to roleclaim, as I feel that my work is done the best I can do, and reasoning behind a few other choices I made.

I am the doctor. Notice how this whole game I was pushing that "I doubt there is a doctor", and then start saying that Ceph's role can't coexist with mine because I belived that two docs wouldnt be possible in this game.

Last night the scum did one of two things: Decided not to kill anyone, or went after Adele. Adele, for his role in pointing out previous actions and being forced to claim yesterday, could use his doc powers to find something major out of the remaining scum. I used my doc ability on Adele, because I felt that if he could find the scum from investigations, we could hopefully win today.

[Adele]

[IH]

Correction. You based plans on that.

Adele, have you found anyone guilty?

No, I didn't take the one shot vig because it might eliminate a possible day for us.
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[TopHat]

Occam's razor tells me that IH is the last remaining scum.
Adele, would you prefer to lynch him today or go for a no-lynch so you could investigate and be 100% sure? (you obv. can't die tonight with a claimed doc out there)

[TopHat]

Actually, forget that... I have a nagging suspicion IH is actually telling the truth about his ability (ie., he just became a roleblocker). If so, no-lynch is a risk, since he can block the doc and kill the cop after all. Vote IH

[Tseirp]

IH: Adele admitted that he found Mgm guilty on day one, and reading back he did push suspicion onto mgm.

Also, going back to day one on the whole Lucresia(now TopHat) and Livingod mason pair: In theory, would it be possible to have one mason town aligned and the other having acsess to both the mafia and the other mason? Looking back at days 1 and 2, Lucresia did support Ceph and Mgm a good amount, and being those two are dead scum, do you think that was just a coincidence?

FoS: Tophat

[Tseirp]

EBWODP: Tophat, you say you think that IH is telling the truth, and yet you vote on him? Seems to me that you are just hopping onto bandwagons.