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Tseirp
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 4:40 pm    Post subject: 401 Reply with quote

Quailman wrote:
Livingod is trying so save his own ass. With 4 of 8 remaining people being scum, this game will end with a lynch of an innocent, or at least the town's chances will end. I might as well tell you who I am in case there's someone who has some useful information that can lead to lynching scum today.

I am Maxwell Smart. In Get Smart I was incompetent, so I have no reason to expect that my results are true (except Talzor). I got innocent results on Talzor (N1) and Pooky (N2).

Now, who's going to jump on and lynch me?

My guesses for who's scum are TopHat, pete d and Livingod, in no particular order.


Mind letting me know where you heard that there are 4 of 8 people alive scum?

I think you know the numbers that the scum know. As far as everyone else knows, there may only be 3 scum, and you come out and say 4?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: 402 Reply with quote

GAH! Go back and read my last post.

Quailman wrote:
One thing to keep in mind - with two kills last night we are probably dealing with three mafia and an SK, so four of the rankings the good guys will see will have been posted by scum.


I said there are probably three mafia and an SK. Since no one has entered any speculation otherwise, I think that's a reasonable guess. Bah! Since the first five people to die have been townies, the game is just to see which of the bad guys wins, and right now I'd say the SK has a zero chance.

So Tseirp-lurker, since this is your first post today and you offer nothing constructive, you've jumped to the top of my scumlist. Two people were killed last night. What do you think the make-up of the remaining players is, scumwise?

FWIW, vote: Tseirp.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 1:02 am    Post subject: 403 Reply with quote

It does seem like a resonable guess given the number of players who started the game. That still doesn't lower my suspicion of you, though it does raise my suspicion of Tseirp a bit. Unless the mafia were super powered, having only two in a game this size would be unbalanced toward the town, especially with a second killing party in the mix.

I would prefer a Livingod lynch today, but as Quailman is #2 on my list I would feel justified lynching him as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: 404 Reply with quote

is any1 going tocounterclaim cop?

otherwiseI'm going to take his comments at face value..
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:09 pm    Post subject: 405 Reply with quote

Pooky: This is cop mafia.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: 406 Reply with quote

We already had a paranoid cop. A claim of a naive cop isn't going to make me change my vote.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 6:45 pm    Post subject: 407 Reply with quote

Vote Count

4. Quailman (Tophat, Livingod, Green Crayons, Tseirp)
1. Livingod (Theopholis)
1. Tseirp (Quailman)
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Pooky
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: 408 Reply with quote

cops is the theme

that doesn't mean we will have a full assortment of cops, but I do expect us to have SOME amount of cops.

Probably more than just one paranoid one.

We're so bloody close to LOL maybe even on it, that I don't really bloody see the point in our police choosing to hold back results at this point.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:54 am    Post subject: 409 Reply with quote

think about this: 4 people claimed cop on day 1. i take these as serious claims. this suggested a dethy setup to me. people who claimed cop: MNOWAX (paranoid), Livingod, Tseirp, Wld / TopHat. and now Quail has also, + a reasonably good nameclaim. So one of them is probably lying. unvote (if any) vote: Tseirp for jumping on Q in a quicklynch attempt at what can reasonably be assumed as a lylo situation. QUICKLYNCH IS BAD

I also agree with Pooky: this is probably our last shot, anyone with damning evidence should come forward.

ps, what about your amazing analysis pooky? [/b]
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: 410 Reply with quote

it kinda depends on whether counterclaims are presented and what their quality is.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: 411 Reply with quote

TopHat wrote:
We already had a paranoid cop. A claim of a naive cop isn't going to make me change my vote.


One clarification: I do not claim to be Naive. I only suspect that I am because of who I am and what I know about him. And I have no evidence to the contrary in my results.
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Pooky
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: 412 Reply with quote

your sanity is actually a nonissue at this point.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:25 pm    Post subject: 413 Reply with quote

So, you guys are saying I should claim too?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: 414 Reply with quote

Livingod wrote:
So, you guys are saying I should claim too?

If you think it'll help.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: 415 Reply with quote

Helloooo? Anybody there?
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Pooky
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:11 pm    Post subject: 416 Reply with quote

where is everyone?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:24 pm    Post subject: 417 Reply with quote

Back from RL problems. (All of the marathon games finished without me Dispirited )
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: 418 Reply with quote

Pooky, if memory serves, you promised some kind of amazing analysis!?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:31 pm    Post subject: 419 Reply with quote

Oh yeah, that.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:09 am    Post subject: 420 Reply with quote

4 days

In the event that the majority is not reached, then there will be no lynch.
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pete d
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 8:53 am    Post subject: 421 Reply with quote

may i humbly request an extension on deadline? I mean sure if noone says anything in the next few days i guess keep it, but it would be good to have more discussion. (eg: analysis from Pooky, much more from Tseirp and whoever else hasn't posted their analysis; the people who claimed cop on day 1 giving results if they have any that could help (only a cop or scum would claim cop in that situation imo) etc).

still deciding whether or not to vote Qman if deadline comes with no viable alternative.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 9:00 am    Post subject: 422 Reply with quote

Given the current level of participation, no. If it picks up significantly before then, I will reconsider.
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Pooky
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 2:46 pm    Post subject: 423 Reply with quote

I said i was waiting on counterclaims,

which I thought meant, if you're not going to CC, then just say so.

my analysis would be different if there is no CC as opposed to there being a CC.

what i don't want is for me to post it, then for some guy to go OH I CC
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: 424 Reply with quote

fair enough
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:16 am    Post subject: 425 Reply with quote

im guessing that means u dont CC.

cmon people, WAKE UP! we are running out of time.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 1:55 pm    Post subject: 426 Reply with quote

I'm sitting here with four votes. I've already had my say, but since no one else is speaking up I'll say more. I have received votes because I was involved in lynching innocents. Their behavior and explanations were fishy, especially IH.

Now, I've voted for Tseirp because of his throwing the fourth vote on me. That was his only post today. Though as a rule I don't like to bring up activity outside the current game, he has been quite active in another mafia game. And guess what - he voted for IH also (I didn't go back to check the day 1 lynch). The guy is clearly scum.

I expect that if nothing happens until near the deadline and there is a scum who is not already voting for me, he will add the fifth vote. That will pretty much end the town's chances. Even if we end the day without lynching a scum it will probably end it, as the mafia will most likely kill a townie and only if the SK kills a mafia will we have a chance.
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Pooky
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:35 pm    Post subject: 427 Reply with quote

I love how the entire population of the game just disappears at the most crucial moment.

I absolutely love it.

Wake UP , if you can counterclaim, DO IT, if you can't VOTE TSEIRP.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:19 am    Post subject: 428 Reply with quote

qtf on those last couple of posts.

for the record, i am not a cop.

from my perspective, LO, Tseirp and TopHat are cops (or scum) unless they claim otherwise. Everyone else is not a cop unless they claim otherwise. Of course i would rather them show up to say as much. Esp. liv who is so obv a cop or pretending to be one but won't say anything.

theo, LO, Tseirp, TopHat, c'mon guys say something. GC *should* be back before deadline hits.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:13 pm    Post subject: 429 Reply with quote

Sorry, I'm not a cop. I have nothing to counterclaim.

Just for the record, when I originally made my list (post 389) I had everyone down in this order.

Livingod 8/10
Quailman 8/10
Tseirp 7/10
Pooky 6/10
TopHat 5/10
pete d 5/10
Green Crayons 4/10

I went back and read all the posts since then and the following posts stuck out.

Livingod in post 397 wrote:
I'm gonna go with a vote Quailman as well.

Pooky in post 398 wrote:
what happened to voting me?

Interesting that Livingod had been going after Pooky pretty much all game and then changed to vote for Quailman this day without so much as an explanation as to why he switched. Livingod also has not posted a full suspicion list.

Quailman in post 400 wrote:
Livingod is trying so save his own ass. With 4 of 8 remaining people being scum, this game will end with a lynch of an innocent, or at least the town's chances will end. I might as well tell you who I am in case there's someone who has some useful information that can lead to lynching scum today.

I am Maxwell Smart. In Get Smart I was incompetent, so I have no reason to expect that my results are true (except Talzor). I got innocent results on Talzor (N1) and Pooky (N2).

Now, who's going to jump on and lynch me?

My guesses for who's scum are TopHat, pete d and Livingod, in no particular order.


His claim could very well be valid, though I also would question his competence just based on his character. However, if he is claiming truthfully, he was right about Talzor so he may also be right about Pooky. From what I remember of the show, Control always managed to beat Kaos in the end, even if Max didn't play the determining role in getting there. Max also was not naive. Incompetent perhaps, but not naive. Quailman may be a straight competent cop. Or he may be a liar. I guess that remains to be seen, though so far we have been presented no evidence to contradict anything he claimed in this post.

Tseirp in post 401 wrote:
Mind letting me know where you heard that there are 4 of 8 people alive scum?

I think you know the numbers that the scum know. As far as everyone else knows, there may only be 3 scum, and you come out and say 4?

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Quailman in post 402 wrote:
GAH! Go back and read my last post.
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I said there are probably three mafia and an SK. Since no one has entered any speculation otherwise, I think that's a reasonable guess. Bah! Since the first five people to die have been townies, the game is just to see which of the bad guys wins, and right now I'd say the SK has a zero chance.
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FWIW, vote: Tseirp.

That's pretty much an OMGUS vote in my opinion, but Quail's assessment does sound reasonable, as I stated in post 403.

Pooky in post 408 wrote:
We're so bloody close to LOL maybe even on it, that I don't really bloody see the point in our police choosing to hold back results at this point.

This could be an attempt by the mafia to out our cops, but it is a valid point. We need to lynch a mafioso now or this may very well be our last day.

Livingod in post 413 wrote:
So, you guys are saying I should claim too?

TopHat in post 414 wrote:
If you think it'll help.

Livingod has posted twice since then and has not claimed. Apparently he doesn't think that his claiming will help.

Quailman wrote:
Now, I've voted for Tseirp because of his throwing the fourth vote on me. That was his only post today. Though as a rule I don't like to bring up activity outside the current game, he has been quite active in another mafia game. And guess what - he voted for IH also (I didn't go back to check the day 1 lynch). The guy is clearly scum.

In fact, he did vote for MNOWAX on day 1. Interesting.

So after all that, here's my revised list.

Livingod 9/10
Tseirp 9/10
TopHat 5/10
Pooky 5/10
Quailman 5/10
pete d 4/10
Green Crayons 4/10


Apparently no one but GC and myself are willing to vote Livingod today, and GC may still be on vacation. So, I'm going to Unvote; Vote: Tsierp.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: 430 Reply with quote

pete d wrote:
qtf on those last couple of posts.

for the record, i am not a cop.

from my perspective, LO, Tseirp and TopHat are cops (or scum) unless they claim otherwise. Everyone else is not a cop unless they claim otherwise. Of course i would rather them show up to say as much. Esp. liv who is so obv a cop or pretending to be one but won't say anything.

theo, LO, Tseirp, TopHat, c'mon guys say something. GC *should* be back before deadline hits.


If you really want to know the truth, I have no reason to tell you it. I am a cop, Chief Wiggum from the Simpsons. Based on background knowledge, my orignal assumption was that I would either be paranoid or naiive, and my results have shown no variance to that patern. That is why I havent said anything, because I dont want to reveal my investigations that I still believe are not true.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: 431 Reply with quote

Well, night as well claim. I'm a cop, Inspector Gadget. I asked Amb whether I was the Matthew Broderick one or the 1980s one, and he said that I was the cartoon. By that, and my knowledge of the cartoon, I reckon that I am insane. Since Gadget often confuses the good guys for the bad and vice versa. Though at this point, I cannot deduce my sanity from my investigation results. I cannot even tell whether I'm naive or paranoid. This, I believe, is due to my insanity and a certain game mechanic. Again, I am not sure about my insanity, I just believe that it fits with my role and night results. My vote on Pooky was to test that certain mechanic. But now, seeing as how my Pooky vote would get us nowhere and that Quail seems scummy, I decided to go back to old-fashioned scum hunting, at least for the time being.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: 432 Reply with quote

Screw it, I'll claim, cause otherwise we'll miss this lynch. I'm a Cop too - Mrs. White from the board game Clue. My results are Livingod innocent, Quailman scum. Given the way those two behave, I tend to suspect I'm the one here that's sane.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:36 am    Post subject: 433 Reply with quote

Gah! I hate April Fools!

My eyes, they melt...
Long live the state.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:43 am    Post subject: 434 Reply with quote

Stop eiting posts, stupid April Fools gimmick. Already had two defaced.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:45 am    Post subject: 435 Reply with quote

Hmm, April-Fools comes up as Hate, and b_ad comes up as ungood...

Well, that's three posts fallen victim to the Soviets...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: 436 Reply with quote

Quote:

Hmm, April-Fools comes up as Hate, and b_ad comes up as ungood...


Confused What are you talking about? bad
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 4:21 am    Post subject: 437 Reply with quote

Type in April-Fools without the hyphen, and it will post "Hate" etc...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:55 am    Post subject: 438 Reply with quote

unvote, vote: TopHat

this is the play

a) he is scum
b) he is a cop: we get 100% confirmed scum; the 2nd killing party kills them tonight.

i think his claim is the scimmiest anyhow

btw i think we deserve an extension
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:33 am    Post subject: 439 Reply with quote

I will consider the extension in about 24 hours which is when this day is due to finish. But at the moment the day is probably going to end as is.

If you, as a group, want a deadline extension please start voting in bold for it (It wont interfere with any player votes. eg Vote Deadline Extension)
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:56 am    Post subject: 440 Reply with quote

vote deadline extension
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