Cop Mafia Mini - Game over...

[pete d]

the a and b in my 2nd last post refer to the possible outcomes. just thought i'd clarify that.

[TopHat]

[theopholis]

Well, this is a dilemma. I find myself more believing Quailman's claim than doubting it, and then TopHat claims cop and say that he found Quail to be scum. Do I now vote for someone I earlier believed was scum but more recently believed was town, or do I keep my vote on Tseirp, a player who I couldn't get a decent read on for awhile but more recently believe to be scum?

On another note, I am looking on pete d and TopHat with a little more suspicion based on the last few posts.

[Quailman]

I want to stic with Tseirp for now, but TopHat iss a viable alternative. I think TopHat's trying to get support to ynch me lesst his scum buddy Tseirp gathers momentum

[Pooky]

That'd be a good point Pete D, if we knew her sanity.

Given that we don't we'd just be wildly stabbing in the dark.

Pretty bloody amazing though that once it rains it pours enh?
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[Pooky]

oh yes

and vote extension
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[pete d]

@ Pooky: isn't sanity revealed upon death?

@ Tophat: a vig is a second killing party. i didn't say a second scum party. And you were the last "cop" to come up with role info, which was weak imo. Your argument sucks.

@theo: In a normal situation, i think relying on a 2nd killing party would be a bad idea. However, they would have no choice: if they don't kill scum, they lose, whether they're a vig or SK. The only other possibility is 2 groups of 2: in that case, we'll still be here tomorrow, and can lynch the confirmed scumbag.

I thought that lynching TopHat was a good strategic move. I personally think he is scum, but aside from that, i thought that it was pretty much guaranteed to get us to day 4 with a much better vantage point. BUT i acknowledge that a mafia RB or doc could really mess with that plan. So... unvote but FOS: TopHat

TopHat strikes me as trying to get Qman lynched today quickly and livingod (presuming Qman is innocent) killed tonight, providing a scum victory. Whilst his (and theo's) not requesting an extension could be a simple oversight, it could also be trying to force a Qman lynch / no lynch. Then again, Qman also did not request an extension.

btw, how is Mrs White an investigator? I thought she was a murderer.

REQUEST AN EXTENSION Y'ALL

I should be back before deadline hits to make a final vote / decision.

[theopholis]

I guess an extension would give me more time to sort things out in my head.

Vote: Deadline Extension

[Amb]

Extension granted. No deadline for a while.

[pete d]

<3 Amb

vote: Tseirp

my change of vote to TopHat was a combination of perceived scumminess and what i thought was a foolproof plan. Without the foolproof plan, i'm left with his scumminess; and i think its a bit less than Tseirp at the moment.

an updated rankings list:
Tseirp 8.5
LO 7
TH 7
Qman 5.5
GC 5 (no read)
theo, Pooky 4

Its also good that GC should have a chance to give his 2 cents again

[pete d]

edit: changed my mind a bit on a rethink:

Tseirp 8.5
TopHat 7
LO 6.5
Qman, GC 6
Pooky, theo 4

[TopHat]

Of course Mrs. White is an investigator. All the clue characters are investigators (and, to be fair, potential murderers as well).

[Green Crayons]

Unvote. Back and wanting to read.

[Quailman]

vote: deadline extension

[Amb]

Tophat has asked to be replaced.

[Amb]

Jesus_Saves replaces Tophat.

[pete d]

[jesus_saves]

wow, this is alot to absorb. I ll post more later, once I sort myself out. And again, this is my first online mafia game. so sorry if I m dumb or some such thing.

[Amb]

Im probably going to set a new deadline at some point. The deadline will probably not go past 5 days from the point of setting.

[theopholis]

I'm pretty confident about my Tseirp vote. He does seem scummy, and his role claim of a presumably paranoid (or at least unreliable) character seems like a good cop out--excuse the pun--for when any investigation results he may decide to share with us turn out to be wrong.

[Green Crayons]

Sorry, had to do a read through for another 16 page mafia game that I'm in. Post to come by the end of tomorrow (blame my short attention span for not sooner).

[jesus_saves]

I m lazy; mod, can we get an accurate vote count?
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[Amb]

Yes, but you will have to wait till after Easter. I am off to visit my folks in the countryside. When I return I will probably re add the deadline, and it will be more permanent this time.

[Amb]

Unmovable deadline - 1 week today

Vote count

3. Quailman (Tophat, Livingod, Tseirp)
3. Tseirp (Quailman,Pete d, Theopholis)

[edit, fixed Theo's vote]

[Quailman]

Thepholis, in post 429, changed to Tseirp. The fact that he has not been lynched yet speaks to the number of scum in this game, I'm afraid.

[theopholis]

What? Hey, I unvoted and voted for Tseirp.

[theopholis]

Let's hear it for simultaneous posting!

[jesus_saves]

OK, so sorry for the excess of delay; I had a long weekend (complete with family emergency) and no computer access. Anyway.


So info that Tophat gave you is correct in that this character is Mrs. White, a cop (or investigator as it were) but I don't know that I share Tophat's belief that I am the "sane" -- cut short; work sucks. I ll finish later, i hope.

[Green Crayons]

I'm a bad, bad person. Post coming very soon (rereading, etc right now).

[Green Crayons]

[Livingod]

Well, I never received investigation results. It just said that I was stopped by a cop in the road. In fact, in night two, I got nothing at all. I PMed the mod and he said that it was just like N1; no flavor. (Both nights I investigated Pooky) I reckon that there's a good chance that I'm insane due to my role. I also believe that Pooky is an investigation immune scum, but if he shows up as "innocent" to me, an insane cop, his power would be moot. Similarly, if he shows up as "guilty" to me, that would be a contradiction to his power. So Amb decided not to tell me anything.

In case you haven't gotten it:
I investigated Pooky again because I thought I was blocked night 1 (could still be the case)
Yes, the mod's response to my query was pretty passive
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[Pooky]

That line of logic is absolutely ludicrious, an investigation immune scum would be moot if Amb decided to give "non result" to any cops who might find an innocent guilty.

Here's what REALLY happened(well from what I can discern from the last 2 posts and what you should've easily been able to conclude) GC blocked you, twice, that's why he said what he did.

What completely boggles me is how you can totally miss what GC was implying in his post and come up with that crap attack on me based on complete craplogic. I honestly don't think someone can read a post in which another player asks them to claim their night results to see if it corresponds to their "limited information"(which implies either tracker or roleblocker and more like a roleblocker) and then make that attack on me, like if you were ACTUALLY a cop who was insane and got "no result" for 2 nights and then someone asks you to fully claim results to test if it corrorborates with his/her limited information, the very FIRST thing I would think of in that spot is that GC is roleblocker and RBed you for the past 2 nights, instead you went with a completely different result which to me suggests that you did NOT in fact received 2 "blocked results" and decided to suggest that I'm an investigation immune scum in order to leave yourself an out in case GC did not actually roleblock you
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[Green Crayons]

Yeah, I thought my hint was pretty obvious too, but with limited time I didn't want to do a "I want Livingod to tell more," "Why should I tell more," "Because you should," "But OMG why?" "Oh, well, becuase I have limited information" "Oh okay then ____" conversation that would take up a few days.

But whatever. I blocked Livingod two nights in a row. While it doesn't make him innocent, it does mean he isn't the current killer role of any group. Assuming this isn't LOL, that'll help me personally when assessing TopHat's claim on the morrow.

In the meanwhile, Vote: Tseirp.

[Tseirp]

I am not scum, and I can guarantee that. However, if you look closely, I can prove it by saying I am after not scum, but the bad cops. I want to kill the bad cops, not scum. If thats not enough to prove my innocence, lynch me and find out.

[theopholis]

Tseirp, you say that because you claim that you are after bad cops, not scum, that you have proven yourself innocent. All along I have been assuming that since this is cop mafia, all of the characters are cops. Logically, therefore, the scum must also be cops, just bad ones. I don't think it's a stretch to believe that other people, including yourself, have jumped to the same conclusion. Your statement adds an extra layer of intrigue to your claim, but it far from clears you.

[Tseirp]

Someone is not getting the gist of my statement.

You saying your scum?

[Livingod]

Pooky, GC: Amb's wording left me unconvinced that I was being RBed. Besides, limited information could be said about any power as long as GC targeted me or Pooky.

Besides that, Tseirp is town; unfortunately, we can't use that card again. Theo is scum. Who else is? Please stand up.

Though I'll still remain on the Qman wagon, since it has more momentum and theo and Q are both voting Tseirp.
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[Green Crayons]

[Green Crayons]

Oh. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOhhh, I see what you're doing there. Had to go back and reread my own PM.

Unvote. (A quick) Reread is in order.

[Livingod]

Now we can definitely not use that card again.
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