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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: 161 Reply with quote

Primo wrote:
personally my vote is leaning more towards raekuul because his claim is suspiciousand he gives off a bad vibe. but I will wait to vote for now to see what else develops.


(I thought I cleared that up.) OK, assuming that I am the SK, it still would be in my best interest to off the other scum, not the town. Let's hope we haven't made asses of ourselves. I'm going back and forth between Sefer and superstring at the moment, more towards sefer than superstring. Can we get a vote count? I don't want to vote until I get an updated count.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: 162 Reply with quote

raekuul wrote:
Primo wrote:
personally my vote is leaning more towards raekuul because his claim is suspiciousand he gives off a bad vibe. but I will wait to vote for now to see what else develops.


(I thought I cleared that up.) OK, assuming that I am the SK, it still would be in my best interest to off the other scum, not the town. Let's hope we haven't made asses of ourselves. I'm going back and forth between Sefer and superstring at the moment, more towards sefer than superstring. Can we get a vote count? I don't want to vote until I get an updated count.


why are you leaning toward me?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:19 pm    Post subject: 163 Reply with quote

Because you distrust sefer, who has probably put forward the most logical argument against me yet. Backwards, yes, but true.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: 164 Reply with quote

Whoops. Misread superstring's post. It's for the same reason that sefer distrusts you- too many power roles.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:30 am    Post subject: 165 Reply with quote

TopHat wrote:
Let me summarize:

superstring: Homer Simpson of SpringShield, cop (primo = innocent)
TopHat: Smart Homer, doc/miller
MNOWAX: ??? Guy N Cognito (you still owe us a name), cop (Sefer = innocent)
Sefer: Homer Simpson, from Police Cops, vanilla
raekuul: Mr. X, vig/miller
Primo: Mr. Thompson, 1 shot Night Protected Townie
Tseirp: Potato Man, mason


editted to put my name in. I believe that i had aid this before. Also,

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Neither Guy N Cognito nor Mr Sparkle were a version of Homer- they were guys that looked like Homer (I dunno what Sugar Man or Potato Man are from, so I don't know if those fit that either). Homer from SpringShield is Homer Simpson from the series, just in the episode that he made his own security company- very similar to the style of the Homer the Sanitation Comisioner role we've seen, just Homer with a job name. Additionally, the dead scum, Beer Baron, was just Homer with a different name, so if scum had a theme it'd have to be something like "Homer in criminal roles."


Guy N Cognito was a Pseudonym for Homer when he snuck into Moe's tavern after Moe threw him out ( i believe).

I do know about potato man. He was in the following episode [url="http://www.snpp.com/episodes/5F09"]Here[/url]

However i am suspicious about Sugar man. He was not a Simpsons character at all, rather a Marvel villan ( specificlly X-Men ) This game is really wierd. If Josh was still alive, i would vote him, as it is, i have no idea what is going on.

Vote: No lynch

At this time the safest way is to wait and see. I am normally not a praying man, but please help us Superman!!! (please SK come out lets make a deal you cant refuse...)
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:44 am    Post subject: 166 Reply with quote

Vote Count

superstring91 (1): TopHat
raekuul (1): Sefer
no lunch (1): MNOWAX

Not Voting (4): superstring91, raekuul, Primo, Tseirp

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lunch
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: 167 Reply with quote

Check the first quote here: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0701097/quotes (I couldn't find a better reference to it). It was actually a guy that looked just like Homer that Moe assumed was Homer trying to sneak in.

I'm assuming that Sugar Man is just a reference to an episode, like potato man, that I'm not familiar with (thanks for the link, by the way). You can't very well be suspicious of him, in that he's dead.

No lynch? Are you serious? No lynch would have us start tomorrow with 5 alive; again assuming no cross killing, 2 would be scum and 1 serial killer. How is it not better to off the SK so we have 3 town 2 scum tomorrow? At least we won't be outnumbered.

raekuul- I'm amused that you distrust superstring for the same reason I distrust you Revenge most foul! I think it's safe to assume, though, that either one of our cops are lying or one isn't sane. I'd originally assumed superstring was the liar, just because he didn't counter MNOWAX day one, but I trust MNOWAX less with each post he makes. I'm gonna be pissed at superstring if MNOWAX does end up being scum and a counterclaim could've saved Amb Half Frown
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: 168 Reply with quote

raekuul wrote:
Whoops. Misread superstring's post. It's for the same reason that sefer distrusts you- too many power roles.


ive played plenty of games with nothing but power roles. even if they were minor.

he claimed vanilla. i was saying that his character name may not warrant vanilla, and it also may.

also, we cant just trust someone because they have good logic. scum needs to have good logic to win.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: 169 Reply with quote

Sefer wrote:
I'm gonna be pissed at superstring if MNOWAX does end up being scum and a counterclaim could've saved Amb Half Frown


well, so would i!

but ive already stated my reasoning, and it's already done
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: 170 Reply with quote

My thing is that if ther is a SK, his only chance of winning is to come out right now. As it is, We are screwed unless we can find something that fingers scum completely. Something is wrong. If there is no SK, were in better shape. Please SK, come out ! we can make a deal!
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:43 am    Post subject: 171 Reply with quote

MNOWAX wrote:
My thing is that if ther is a SK, his only chance of winning is to come out right now. As it is, We are screwed unless we can find something that fingers scum completely. Something is wrong. If there is no SK, were in better shape. Please SK, come out ! we can make a deal!


this doesnt make sense. are you just trying to lure the sk out? cuz that would almost guarantee their loss, most likely with a lynch in a later day
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: 172 Reply with quote

Ok, 7 alive still, our best guess is 2 more scum and 1 SK.

We go no lynch, assume SK and scum dont hit each other - 5 left tomorrow, 2 scum 1 SK, we hope to lynch a scum, and it comes down to 2 townies, 1 scum, 1 SK. Maybe, if the scum and SK go for each other we win, but that would be taking too much of a risk.

We go lynch today. 7 alive, go down to 6, worst case we get a townie and go down to 3 townies 2 scum 1 SK. If scum and SK dont hit each other or the same target, we lose no matter what.

We have a 4/7 chance today if we go with a lyn that we hit a townie, and a better chance then of losing to scum. However, if we dont risk one of our own today, a no lynch might be better, as it puts more pressure on the scum and SK to hit each other.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 12:17 pm    Post subject: 173 Reply with quote

I absolutely hate the no lynch idea. I'd rather take a shot at semi-random.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: 174 Reply with quote

We don't actually have to take a random shot; we know raekuul is the source of the extra kill, so we can off him and not take a chance on multiple kills tonight. It'll put us in lynch or lose tomorrow, but we're pretty much already in lynch or lose today; I'd rather know that we're definately 3 town/2 scum tomorrow rather than risk lynching someone else and ending up with (possibly) 1 town and 3 total scum tomorrow or no lynch and ending up with (possibly) 2 town and 3 total scum tomorrow.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 6:07 pm    Post subject: 175 Reply with quote

Uhm, did he actually claim the extra kill? I know he claimed vig, but did he kill? raekuul, can you clarify if you killed anyone tonight?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:17 pm    Post subject: 176 Reply with quote

That's a decent point; I did just assume he was the source of the extra kill. On the other hand, if he didn't kill last night, and hasn't told us something along the lines of "hey, I didn't kill, there's another killer out there to worry about," he really needs to explain why. Particularly after I mentioned he was likely an SK, not being responsible for a kill was pertinant information.
raekuul, if you did kill last night, can you specify who it was you killed?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: 177 Reply with quote

I don't think so, let me check.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: 178 Reply with quote

...you dont remember who you killed last night, huh?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: 179 Reply with quote

i have another idea why he may not be able to, but ill post it after he posts [so he doesnt get any smart ideas]
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 8:27 pm    Post subject: 180 Reply with quote

I can only assume that the reason you're taking this long is that you're checking with pete d. Seriously, you didn't think to check this as soon as I started talking about you being the source of the second kill? You need to hurry, because we have a deadline for Saturday- unless delaying til deadline was your plan Cannibal. Mod, has discussion picked up enough to drop the deadline?

I'm moving this weekend and won't have internet access at my new place til Monday. If we don't get an extension tomorrow will be my last chance to post before the deadline; if anyone has a better plan than lynching raekuul I'd really appreciate if he'd post it before tomorrow night.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: 181 Reply with quote

i may be able to check in tomorrow night, but im not entirely sure.
on saturday, my sister is graduating from UofM and i am going to be there. i will be able to check in on friday night [im fairly sure] but i wont be able to by the deadline.

an extension would be appreciated

but, in the case that i wont check in tomorrow, or saturday,

vote:raekuul
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 4:09 am    Post subject: 182 Reply with quote

There is a one week extension on the deadline.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:39 pm    Post subject: 183 Reply with quote

It was Josh-oo-wuh, but the person I'm replacing, as we all know, is not very mafia-savvy. I don't know his reasoning, I can only trust his judgement.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 8:54 pm    Post subject: 184 Reply with quote

For the uninitiated, can anyone please explain whether it makes sense for Mr. X's method of kill to be 'slam-dunked'?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:08 pm    Post subject: 185 Reply with quote

Not as far as I know; here's a summary of the episode he's from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Computer_Wore_Menace_Shoes
As far as I know, there's no dunking involved in the episode.

Notably, though, Mr. X runs a gossip web site. We have an unexplained gossip ability out there; Mr. X definately makes sense as someone who would have that ability. There may well be a connection there; if it's a player ability (rather than the mod), it must be a scum ability or a town member would have claimed it. Also, I have trouble seeing why a pro-town player would target Josh-oo-wuh; there were clearly scummier targets out there. It's not something raekuul can really defend against, as he pointed out, but it's still something that adds to my assumption that he's an SK.
I remain convinced that raekuul is the way to go.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: 186 Reply with quote

I like your logic regarding the Mr. X gossiping. I forgot that episode on what exactly happened. I'd hammah Raekuul ( not to Pull a Rosso...)
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:41 pm    Post subject: 187 Reply with quote

Meh, I'd rather keep him alive. As a vig or SK, he can test primo for us. We definitely DO NOT auto-lose if we let raekuul have his way with Primo. (even if we lynch an innocent today).

Vote Superstring for general bad vibes
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: 188 Reply with quote

Vote Count

superstring91 (1): TopHat
raekuul (2): Sefer, superstring91
no lunch (2): MNOWAX, Tseirp

Not Voting (2): raekuul, Primo

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: 189 Reply with quote

I went and reread this thread, and I really do doubt that Raekuul is a vig. Not so sure that hes an SK, but Mr. X seems like he would be against the town in general.

Unvote, Vote:Raekuul
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: 190 Reply with quote

Hammah Time!

Unvote, Vote: raekuul
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:37 am    Post subject: 191 Reply with quote

Well i was going to vote raekuul but hes already been lynched
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:19 am    Post subject: 192 Reply with quote

After an eventful day of heated discussion and some confusion, the collective town came to a sudden and decisive decision. As they gathered around the form of raekuul, he tried to persuade them otherwise...

"Don't lynch me! I'm Mr X! See?", he said, placing a "?" labelled bag over his head. Unfortunately, placing a bag over your head is not the best idea when you're about to be lynched.

raekuul, Mr X, Serial Killer / Gossip / Commuter, has been lynched!

IT IS NOW NIGHT 2. GET YOUR CHOICES IN BEFORE WEDNESDAY 6pm AEST ish (approx. 48 hrs from now)[/b]
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 8:21 am    Post subject: 193 Reply with quote

Final Vote Count, Day 2:

Vote Count

superstring91 (1): TopHat
raekuul (4): Sefer, superstring91, Tseirp, MNOWAX

Not Voting (2): raekuul, Primo


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:12 pm    Post subject: 194 Reply with quote

Bah. Bahbahbahbah. All in favor, bleat like sheep.
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PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 7:34 pm    Post subject: 195 Reply with quote

lmao
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:32 am    Post subject: 196 Reply with quote

Anybody who hasn't sent in choices yet, you have less than 24hrs to get them in. You know who you are.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:04 am    Post subject: 197 Reply with quote

i will be gone tomorrow morning through friday. just to let everyone know.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:55 am    Post subject: 198 Reply with quote

The town emerges, somewhat shakily, into the morning light. But... someone's missing...

After some searching, the form of TopHat is found, buried in a pile of crayons. What a way to go. TopHat, Smart Homer, miller doc, killed Night 2

with 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:15 pm    Post subject: 199 Reply with quote

Bah! Bah! Bahbahbah! Bahbahbah! Bahbah!

Good luck, town! Be smart, and don't let the scum take this one...
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 2:28 pm    Post subject: 200 Reply with quote

Well, we knew we'd probably lose any doctor we had when we mass claimed. It means that we can't hope for doc protection, so we're definately at LyLo, but at least we still have our two claimed cops, so his sacrifice should be worth it.
I was hoping to get the cop investigations right away, but it looks like superstring is away for a couple of days. MNOWAX, what were your results? superstring, as soon as you get back, tell us yours.
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