Heroes Mafia Mini: Day 3 dawns, town wins!

[Sefer]

CzarJ and Projectyl have been prodded. This may be the last time I post before Monday; I'll do my best to check the thread on the off chance that there's a lynch before then. Continue to kill each other nicely in my absence.

Vote Count:

lexprod (2): theopholis, Amb
Undercover Monk (1): MNOWAX
Projectyl (1): lexprod
Amb (1): Undercover Monk


Not Voting: Projectyl, CzarJ, Courk, CrashTextDummie, Livingod

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
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[Undercover Monk]

Still find your actions somewhat scummy Amb. So I'll keep my vote where it is. For Now!!!

Also to Theopolis I didn't find lexprod nearly as suspicious as your other 7 livingod. What made him stand out.
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[theopholis]

As I said, no one player stood out as especially scummy compared to the other players I considered to be scummy. I picked lexprod because of his blatant maneuvers to distance himself from known scum. I didn't vote for Livingod despite the fact that I see him as scummy just in case his role claim is true. I still think it may be a mafia safe claim name, but right now I'm exploring the lexprod option.
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[CzarJ]

I'm here--I just haven't had much to say. UM doesn't seem that scummy to me, nor does lexprod (although slightly moreso). I still don't trust livingod, and every time Amb opens his mouth he seems scummier to me. That's all I've got for now, but I promise more before the weekend's through.

[Projectyl]

I can't think of much to say. See, this is why I don't play Mafia that often - either someone, often an innocent, looks irredeemably guilty to me, or nobody seems guilty at all. Somebody stir something up, dagnabbit!

This popped into my head a couple of days ago and I wanted to point it out: there's more than one character who could be considered Claire's father. Are we sure it's not Nathan that's looking for Claire? (I know the bioparent reveal didn't come until later in the season, but hey, we've already had Thompson.)
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[CzarJ]

Okay, here's the thing. I was about to post saying that I couldn't think of a part in the series where Nathan was looking for Claire, then I remembered one of the things that rubbed me the wrong way about livingod's claim in the first place: when in the series is Noah looking for Claire? Besides minor plot points like her not coming home one night because she was in the morgue, I can't think of anything. I know later in the season he sends her away for her own good, but can you really say that he's looking for her then? The whole point was that he not know where she was. I could be forgetting something big, but if I'm not, I really find that odd. Nowhere in the rules does it say that roles have to be based directly on what happens in the series, but it's a lot more likely that they would be, I would think.

[theopholis]

[Livingod]

Holy Sheeit!

My dad is looking for me; not necessarily being Noah! You guys are awesome and have shed light onto many a fact.
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[MNOWAX]

ok i have had it. lets get some dicsussion going.

unvote, vote lexprod
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[Amb]

WIth just over 24 hours (or 48 ?) I doubt we will get loads of conversation or spectacular points. But who knows.

I believe Lexprod is the best lynch if we manage one, but I suspect we won't.

[CzarJ]

I can see lexprod maybe being scum, but I still find Livingod's posts much scummier. Hiw roleclaim makes no sense, and he does no great job defending it. Not to mention that we were plenty suspicious of him before for his "not all-Primatech" shenanigans. It seems like a member of the mafia trying to stir things up and overload the town with info that isn't actually going to help them, but really just makes it seem like the scum is contributing. Speaking of contributing, he hasn't been since the end of day 1.

vote: Livingod

[theopholis]

[Sefer]

Vote Count:

lexprod (3): theopholis, Amb, MNOWAX
Projectyl (1): lexprod
Amb (1): Undercover Monk
Livingod (1): CzarJ

Comic-con was great. Alas, I see that you haven't been motivated to post much in my absence, so the deadline stands. There are about 36 hours til deadline (you will have at least 36 hours, maybe more depending on when I can check).
As a side note, the only way to no lynch with my deadline system is to vote for No Lynch.
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[Amb]

In that case I am happy for Lexprod to die.

If he has anything to add, he should do so soon.

[lexprod]

Well crap. I guess I should claim? I am Audrey Hanson, vanilla townie with the townie win condition.

So exciting right?

And I'll change my vote to Amb, because it feels like everything you've done hasn't really helped the town and is honestly half-based on gut feeling, seeing as we have 36 hours to lynch somebody or agree not to lynch.

Vote:Amb
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[CzarJ]

Audrey Hanson? Wikipedia time.

[CzarJ]

Oh yeah. Okay, here's my problem: Audrey Hanson, the FBI Agent, is a vanilla townie? It's possible, but a little weird to include a relatively minor character like that just to make her a vanilla townie. Here's my real problem, though: "Let's lynch Amb because he's not because he's scummy but because he's not helping that much"? That's ridiculous on many levels: first off, Amb is contributing as much as anyone, and while certain things he's done have struck me as being a little off, with all his posts and the volume contained therein, you'd think we'd have something more solid to go on than "You're basing your votes on gut instinct: you're scum." Or worse yet "You're basing you're votes on gut instinct: it's no big deal if we lynch you." That's getting dangerously close to poisonium territory.

You got some 'splainin to do.

Unvote: Livingod
Vote: Lexprod

[lexprod]

I really can't make a solid case against Amb, but I think a vote for NL will get us nowhere again.

Fine, I've got one last bit of roleclaim since I may be asleep near the deadline:

I win if Sylar is lynched. If he is abducted then I change to the vanilla town win conditition

Make more sense?

Anyways, my only other thing to say is LURKERS SPEAK UP. With only about half of us regularly posting it's more likely the scum running the discussion. The only way to dilute their attempts at manipulation are by keeping everyone talking.
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[Amb]

If you have an alternate win condition, and you happen to have lied about it already then you easily could be lying about changing to the vanilla town win condition too.

[CzarJ]

Are you also a mason? A vig?

[Courk]

He's not Fritzler.

[lexprod]

No powers besides winning before the town if we lynch Sylar. I'm not a mason or nothing. I'm not aware of anyone else who will win with me if that occurs, I can't think of anyone from the series who would (we never see her boss in the series, or if we did I can't remember the character.) I'm guessing everyone else is scum or mutants.

No kills, no night actions. I'm just a townie with a small alteration.

[Courk]

I'm inclined to believe lexprod. Aspects of his role seem to match aspects of mine.

[lexprod]

Here's my character on wiki
[url]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Heroes#Audrey_Hanson[/url]
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[CzarJ]

[Undercover Monk]

The only problem I have with Audrey is she is a very minor character. However in the first half she was obsessed with finding syler with help from Matt Parkman. I really don't know what to think about lexprod, but I do know what to think about Amb. He's Scum!!!!!
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The Classic Blunders:
1. never get involved in a land war in Asia
2.Never go in against a Sicilian when DEATH is on the line
3. Never release Peyton Manning

[Amb]

This is wrong. An alternate win condition is still bad. THe only thing better to lynch is pure scum, and under deadline conditions that is unlikely save by fluke of whoever the leading vote count is.

Would you like the game to terminate because Sylar is accidentally lynched because we backed off and someone with 1 vote happens to be him/her?

Courk, are you also admitting to an alternate win condition? How endemic is this?

[lexprod]

Actually as it stands right now Amb, if you guys back of you will be lynched with 2 votes. Not someone with 1 vote.
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[Courk]

[Courk]

Oh, an alternate win condition is not necessarily bad, either. It depends on exactly how it's phrased, and I doubt Audrey would have a way to win that's bad for the town. She's not against the 'good guys' in the show, she's against a portion of the 'bad guys' in a different way and for slightly different reasons than the main characters.

[theopholis]

What sort of character would Sylar be except for a serial killer? No one's head was sliced open last night, so this could mean one of a number of things.

* Sylar was successfully blocked last night.
* Sylar did not send in a kill last night.
* Sylar is not a serial killer, or at least not an every night serial killer.
* Sylar is not in this game, and lexprod is making up the alternate win condition.

If someone sent in a role block last night, I recommend continuing to block that same person on subsequent nights because you may have gotten lucky and blocked our SK.

There was quite a bit of talk a few pages back about the unlikelihood of there being a serial killer in a game this size. This role claim serves to swat down that idea pretty well, assuming it is true. The only way to be sure is to lynch lexprod. Is that the sort of thing we want to do? Well, some of us do, but do I? Unfortunately, if I don't vote for lexprod the next likely place for me to put my vote would be on the claimed cop. Ah, dilemmas! I'll give the situation some thought and post again later tonight.
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[lexprod]

I am a tempting lynch, I will admit, due to no real powers other than increasing the percentage of townies around.

About Sylar being a SK, I'm pretty sure, at least he's not the abductors and not town. Maybe he wants all mutants lynched, not all townies? or just Claire? or maybe he can only NK a few times and needs to use it on Claire? I say Claire because that's who he is ultimately after in the series, to get her power of regeneration and become unstoppable. And since Courk seems to also have an alt. win, maybe there's a couple more floating around, like the Claire/Father deal.
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[theopholis]

[Courk]

If I understand correctly, our deadline is 3 pm or later EDT?

[Amb]

Vote Deadline Extension

The conversation has picked up, and with it the chances of making a smart informed lynch.

[Courk]

Vote: Deadline Extension

[lexprod]

Vote: Deadline Extension

I'd like to live
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[Sefer]

Vote Count:

lexprod (2): Amb, MNOWAX
Amb (2): Undercover Monk, lexprod
MNOWAX (1): theopholis

Not Voting: Projectyl, Courk, CrashTextDummie, Livingod, CzarJ

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

The cries of the people do not fall on deaf ears. The deadline is extended to August 3rd. This will likely be the final deadline, so please have your minds made up by then.
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[Courk]

Can you give us a time for the deadline? I don't care as much if a deadline goes beyond what you post, but it's nice knowing that the deadline won't fall before a specific time.

[lexprod]

Unvote in light of the extension, I'll clear my head and get a cool head before I post again.
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