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What should we do about global warming?
It doesn't exist!
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Nothing! It is beyond our control.
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Let it run its course and deal with the consequences. It's cheaper that way.
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International agreement. It's the only way.
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Unilateral or multilateral action. Lead and the world will follow.
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Start at home. Individual action, then national and eventually international.
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Jack_Ian
Big Endian



PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

Ecological Footprint Quiz

When I completed the quick survey, the site wrote:


I would be more ecologically aware than my neighbours, recycling, composting, about to install geothermal heating, etc. so I'm not surprised that I'm far below the average for my country, Ireland.
Of course they are probably talking about inefficient use of acreage (i.e. organic horticulture) so I'm not that worried.

It does provide a way of comparing our relative footprint though, so I'd be interested in seeing how the rest of you fare.
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Chuck
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

We need to have fewer people. We're probably the only species that would have a greater chance of survival if 99.99% of its members would suddenly die or at least stop reproducing. Any other solution is just treating the symptoms.
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Dented Ford
Hoopy Frood



PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

I only need 0.9 extra planets
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jesternl
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

Linkie no workie
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

Chuck wrote:
... if 99.99% of its members would suddenly die ...
99.99% - Just eliminate anyone with more than the average number of legs. Problem solved. Revenge most foul! 2 legs is more than 1.99 legs (the average)

I just think that our climate models are not sophisticated enough to accurately predict the consequences of any actions we might take.
We are as likely to make things worse as improve things, if we try anything of consequence.
Tweaking CO 2 emissions might satisfy voters, but I can't see it having enough of an impact to make it worthwhile and it would have to be done on a global scale to make it fair.
I do my bit to lessen my use of non-renewable resources from a personal morality standpoint, rather than from fear of global warming. I simply believe it's immoral to waste, whether it's talent or oil. It makes no difference to me.

From a practical point of view, I believe it makes more sense to build a global fund to cope with global warming rather than try to alter it. A global CO 2 tax could fund this kitty and it would be used to provide grants for moving villages inland in the face of rising sea-levels or providing irrigation or desalination for periods of drought etc.

Of course I'm a little biased. I live on a hill about a mile inland and I quite like the idea of having a beach-front property and having warmer Summers here in Ireland would be OK too. Wink
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Jack_Ian
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

jesternl wrote:
Linkie no workie
Worked for Dented Ford. Confused
What happened when you clicked on it?
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Chuck
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:17 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

I don't have a car and don't use public transportation, and ride as passenger less than once per month, never going far. It really hates my feeding habits. I buy mostly frozen and prepackaged foods, most of which I think are shipped from elsewhere.

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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 9:36 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

wait, why did Jack_Ian's thing say 1.8 hectares per person and chucks say 4.5?
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Chuck
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 10:55 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

It knew that, as an American, I wouldn't understand metric measurements.
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Courk
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PostPosted: Wed May 02, 2007 11:09 pm    Post subject: 10 Reply with quote

13 acres, 3 planets (well, 2.9).
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wordcross

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: 11 Reply with quote

oh bah. that should raise the global footprint score Razz
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Courk
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 1:12 am    Post subject: 12 Reply with quote

I guessed on a lot of things. It was either take time to figure it out, or go eat.
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: 13 Reply with quote

Did you travel more than 200 miles to get your food?
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Courk
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: 14 Reply with quote

City size I had to look up. My guess was way off.

I don't know where my food is grown, nor precisely what its procesed:unprocessed ratio is.

Size of home: *has no idea*

I don't know how energy efficient our stuff is.

Drive per week: *shrug*
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: 15 Reply with quote

For some reason it thinks houses here don't have running water. Also it assumed I had a car.
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:51 am    Post subject: 16 Reply with quote

I was able to get down to 1 planet by eating vegan, getting all my food unprocessed and locally, living in a 500 square foot or less dwelling with 6 or more other people with no electricity, and getting everywhere by walking or by horseback.

Sweet. I'm on it.
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:56 am    Post subject: 17 Reply with quote

Antrax wrote:
For some reason it thinks houses here don't have running water. Also it assumed I had a car.
I just tried (using Israel) and got the same options I did for America (except in metric).
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: 18 Reply with quote

It should know that there's a 100+% tax here on cars, so many people can't afford them, even if said people work in a job that pays well over the median salary.
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: 19 Reply with quote

Antrax wrote:
It should know that there's a 100+% tax here on cars, so many people can't afford them, even if said people work in a job that pays well over the median salary.
That a heinous tax (must resist side discussion...stay on target..). But if you saw the same thing I did (when I chose Israel), it's irrelevant. I was given multiple choice options to describe how much I drive (or ride as a passenger) in a privately owned car. Since zero was an option it wasn't an assumption, it was just good practice. I'm guessing you saw something different than I did.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 7:51 am    Post subject: 20 Reply with quote

I saw the question "how much gas does your car consume when driving 100 km" and there was something else about "my car". There was no "I have no car so this is irrelevant" answer.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 9:17 am    Post subject: 21 Reply with quote

From what I see, that's only offered if you say you've answered more than zero for driving a car (Q 10).
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:49 am    Post subject: 22 Reply with quote

Contrary to popular belief, I do have friends. Some of them have rich parents Felicitous
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jesternl
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: 23 Reply with quote

Must be something wrong with Bordermanager, I get a big ol' page of spam
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Beartalon
'Party line' kind of guy



PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: 24 Reply with quote

3.1 planets. One for me, one for my spouse, one for a "selected" friend (taking applications now) and the other .1, an asteroid past Mars, for the rest of you.
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Samadhi
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 6:46 am    Post subject: 25 Reply with quote

Antrax wrote:
Contrary to popular belief, I do have friends. Some of them have rich parents Felicitous
Then you're just being contrary. The phraseology may not be precise but clearly they're asking about the fuel efficiency of the car you ride in.
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Antrax
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: 26 Reply with quote

That means they're counting cars twice or more, and the calculation is meaningless.
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 9:41 am    Post subject: 27 Reply with quote

Now you're learning. Felicitous
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groza528
No Place Like Home



PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 10:58 am    Post subject: 28 Reply with quote

I figured out the calculation was meaningless when they said eating meat once or twice a week was "often." Seriously, what happened to the food pyramid and 2-4 servings per day?
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Courk
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 4:37 pm    Post subject: 29 Reply with quote

Bearty, can I have your other 0.1 planet to round out my 2.9 planets?
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Beartalon
'Party line' kind of guy



PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: 30 Reply with quote

"Yes, I'll slingshot it your way," he said with gravity.
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Poisonium
annoyed by the old



PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: 31 Reply with quote

Oh, well 2.8 planets before Summer Vacation, 5 after... Wow, I'm consuming.
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