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Killer Has a Voice V2 Its OVAH!!!
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Amb
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 6:59 pm    Post subject: 321 Reply with quote

Although, the more I think about it, the more I think your presumption is probably correct.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: 322 Reply with quote

the way I see it is this. there are 7 players remaining. if amb is telling the truth then we lynch one scum tonight that would leave 4 town and 1 scum after the new day comes about. If amb is lying and we accidentally lynch a townie there would be 3 town and 2 scum remaining in the new day and we would know that amb is scum. either way in the next day town will still be ahead in the game. so i say we lynch livinggod and see what the new day brings.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 9:39 pm    Post subject: 323 Reply with quote

"accidentally" lynch a townie?

This is so scummy-sounding if it were earlier in the game I'd almost be switching my vote to you. Why not "let's all vote thedragon'sprincess, it's either her or Amb, so we'll get the other tomorrow if we pick wrong" - I don't know what a hijacker role was meant to have been, but we haven't ruled out any other night-kill roles.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 4:23 am    Post subject: 324 Reply with quote

vote count will be coming soon.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:03 pm    Post subject: 325 Reply with quote

I am still waiting on a role pm...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: 326 Reply with quote

First off, DF, why can't tdp and Livingod be the scumpair? Why is lynching Livingod NOT the correct play? Amb has claimed to be a SANE COP. If Livingod turns up innocent, then Amb has to be scum, and we lynch him day 4. For one thing, it would be a stupid thing to claim in the first place. There can only reasonably be at most 2 mafia left, so they can't win instantly if we mislynch today.

Dented Ford wrote:
"accidentally" lynch a townie?

This is so scummy-sounding if it were earlier in the game I'd almost be switching my vote to you. Why not "let's all vote thedragon'sprincess, it's either her or Amb, so we'll get the other tomorrow if we pick wrong" - I don't know what a hijacker role was meant to have been, but we haven't ruled out any other night-kill roles.


You are ignoring the obvious plan. We KNOW that one of Amb and Livingod is scum. We do NOT know that one of tdp and Amb is scum, for instance.

Dented Ford wrote:
Livingod's last post anywhere on the GL was 3rd September. Sniklac's last post anywhere on the GL was 31st August. If you're suggesting that Amb is not scum, and that the cop claim about Livingod is legit, and presumably not volunteering yourself as the other scum candidate, then you're saying Sniklac16 is the remaining scum.


I don't see why you've ruled out tdp being scum here. You seem to address tdp's point of view, then switch to your own and say that assume for no reason that tdp is a townie? = Faulty logic.

Dented Ford wrote:
That means his case against Livingod is non-existent, and the other scum partner is likely to be pete d, on account of his support for the "good call" on "investigating" (yeah, right) LG.


Let's see, someone claims cop with no pressure and a scum investigation, making a 1-1 situation, and later clarifies that they are sane.

Dented Ford wrote:
you're looking to distract and not even really offered any defence for "mistaken posting" in the Survivor thread.

This is just as weak as Dutters PM from Scum proporting to be me, or my PM's from Scum proporting to be from another player.

In conclusion, Dented Ford, I would ask you to look through your logic again, and consider:
1) Why you assumed thedragon'sprincess was town
2) Why you think lynching the claimed sane cop instead of the guilty investigation when scum has no good reason to claim cop is a good idea.
3) Why Livingod and thedragon'sprincess aren't the scumpair
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:15 am    Post subject: 327 Reply with quote

Very quickly as I am just headed to take my wife to hospital (10th operation in 5 years) so shan't have chance to answer all properly for a while, but I don't want to leave it like I'm lurking off and leaving these.
pete d wrote:
1) Why you assumed thedragon'sprincess was town

I didn't assume. It's an impossible situation for tdp to be scum if Amb is. I have given various reasons why I solidly believe Amb to be scum. I actually do not in fact believe tdp is town.
It doesn't make sense for tdp to be pushing for livingod's lynch if he's her scumbuddy. It does make an awful lot of sense if she's a Serial Killer. That'd give her a kill of one town by lynch, have a chance to target another tonight, and we'd all string up Amb in the morning, without undue suspicion falling on her.

pete d wrote:
2) Why you think lynching the claimed sane cop instead of the guilty investigation when scum has no good reason to claim cop is a good idea.
I think scum claiming cop right now is quite likely. In a game that's been so prone to inactive players, this is probably the safest chance scum will have to make such a claim. Leaving a fake cop claim until later would lose scum the chance to hoodwink the town and make kills, as it would be closer to being uncovered through the cop's death providing the evidence, or a counter-claim from a replacement if the cop is an inactive player.

Can't stay longer to put down rebuttal of the rest, but I still am convinced of Amb being scum.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: 328 Reply with quote

Poisonium2 will replace Snilak16 effective as soon as he posts.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: 329 Reply with quote

...which is now.

Let's see.
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1:There are three members of the scum team. However, They are not the only ones who have access to the account.

2:One of the four people i have prodded recently(Livingod, Ctorj, ,FlyingFoxbat, Sniklac16) has access to the scum account

3: One of the scum members alive does not have an A in their name


It's clear why we all need to Vote: Livingod
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: 330 Reply with quote

i just realized that when i voted livinggod i forgot to unvote pete d first so here it is. unvote, vote livinggod
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:55 pm    Post subject: 331 Reply with quote

and rereading, i believe that is lynch. can we get mod confirmation?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: 332 Reply with quote

That is a lynch

i was about to post a vote count, and that brought it over the lynch.


Livingod Was Scum! Night begins now, get your choices in within one week from tonight at midnight EST.[/b]
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: 333 Reply with quote

All of you wake up, but one is lying in a pool of his own blood. Dented Ford has been killed over night. Good Luck Town!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: 334 Reply with quote

o sIMple ONeS, unDerStaNd WisDoM; aND, fOoLs, bE oF An uNdErsTanDiNg hEArt. IS tHerE nOt a wARFarE to MaN on earth? Are not hiS dAys also like the days of a hireling? And Jehovah ComManDed me at that TIme to teach you statutes and judgments so that you might do them in the laND wHEre yOu go over to posSeSs it. The cOpY oF tHE lETtEr wHICh Tatnai, goVERNor Of the province Beyond the River, and SheTHAr-boZNai, and his cOMpaNIoNs, the ofFicIals BeYond the RivEr, sEnT to darIuS the kINg: He also toOk oUT of all the cities of JUdAh the high places and the images. And the kingdom was qUiet beFOre him.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:23 pm    Post subject: 335 Reply with quote

Bah! Go town. (Sorry for being useless, anyway. I really ought to have my mafia player's licence revoked.)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: 336 Reply with quote

Bold letters in scum post=
a wA
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ngdom was


or..... a ways also I m(drop the e)ach you (staem?) in t? opynions the off ngdom? was...... Anyone got any ideas?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: 337 Reply with quote

no clue.....was that post our puzzle for this day? or was that just scum trying to confuse us and possibly lead us on a wild goose chase? I am personally leaning toward wild goose chase myself.
amb- since you survived the night mind telling us who you investigated last night?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:50 pm    Post subject: 338 Reply with quote

Dented Ford
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: 339 Reply with quote

Amb will survive every night, i guarantee it.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 1:31 pm    Post subject: 340 Reply with quote

how can you guarantee amb will survive?
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: 341 Reply with quote

Could be any of these:

1. He is a doctor (Suicidal to claim this)

2. He is a roleblocker (admittedly harder to save someone if you don't know who to block)

3. He is a godfather, and the only remaining scum. (Leaving me alive because I wont get a guilty response on him)

4. He is lying and is vanilla town. (Reason to do this is to distract the scum)

Or heaven knows what else. I doubt 1 or 2. I suspect 3. I doubt 4, but it would actually be very clever play. *Nixing the idea for future games - claim doc when 1 scum is left and 1 cop is left*
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 6:25 am    Post subject: 342 Reply with quote

5. He thinks Amb is the GF.

can I vote for tdp yet
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: 343 Reply with quote

Why ask about whether you can vote?
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: 344 Reply with quote

well since there are only 5 players, 3 of which I know to be innocent( pete d. amb, and myself) that leaves only dutters or poison to be scum. Poison has seemed much less scummish to me since he replaced and when snik was participating in the game he did have a vote on UM. Especially with the last comment made by dutters I think he is the guilty one. vote dutters
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: 345 Reply with quote

Vote Dutters

That's one from lynch. Dutters - care to explain further?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: 346 Reply with quote

??? Why the Dutters votes? You are all ignoring the fact that there was a scum actively contributing puzzles and posting whilst there was about half the players not active. Dutters2 and Poisonium2's replacees were not active players at that time. I think that it is reasonable to assume that the last scum is one of me, Amb and tdp. Even without that, the reasons for voting Dutters are quite unsatisfactory.

btw, from the first clue, we know someone else has access to the scum account other than scum. Most likely this is a player, but it could be someone helping the scum with puzzles. Would a mass claim help in this situation?

My last vote was just being whimsical, vote: thedragon'sprincess. If Amb was scum, I don't see him fakeclaiming cop like he did when he could easily be counterclaimed. Plus, I've already been suspicious of tdp for a while.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:14 am    Post subject: 347 Reply with quote

who is to say that dutters' predecessor was not just lurking? that is a complete scumtell in most cases.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: 348 Reply with quote

Unvote

Dutters is probably scum, but it could... hmmm... brainwave?

... Could the scum account be being posted by the Mod? Ie kept active by him...

Anyways, Dutters is probably scum and if not him then TDP. So I wouldn't be upset by a lynch of either of them.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 1:10 am    Post subject: 349 Reply with quote

Ctorj hasn't posted anywhere here since September 23. If that's lurking, bravo for the commitment shown
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: 350 Reply with quote

Deadline: 1 week from today at Midnight EST

This is retractable deadline, as there are now posts in two days.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:56 pm    Post subject: 351 Reply with quote

Amb wrote:

Anyways, Dutters is probably scum and if not him then TDP. So I wouldn't be upset by a lynch of either of them.



If that is true, then vote TDP cause I know I'm innocent
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 12:16 am    Post subject: 352 Reply with quote

Dutters wrote:
Amb wrote:

Anyways, Dutters is probably scum and if not him then TDP. So I wouldn't be upset by a lynch of either of them.



If that is true, then vote TDP cause I know I'm innocent


well i wouldnt expect you to say otherwise... what scum would come out and admit they're scum? i guess its up to the others to decide.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: 353 Reply with quote

Vote The Dragons Princess to lynch.

I will investigate Dutters tonight.

Puzzle?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: 354 Reply with quote

Dragon's princess has been lynched. Since Puzzle was not solved No solution will be given until end of game. Dragon's princess a Townie.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:14 am    Post subject: 355 Reply with quote

Day has risen. Pete d has droppped from an unknown killer. Three alive means two to lynch!!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: 356 Reply with quote

Amb might I ask what came up when you investigated me?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 3:14 am    Post subject: 357 Reply with quote

Innocent :-/

Given the whole GF thing, it isn't that useful.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: 358 Reply with quote

Well, I guess now I can say, "I'm not scum, but you do know who I am"
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:32 pm    Post subject: 359 Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: 360 Reply with quote

Vote Poisonium

50/50 call I think. I havent a hope of deciding between you
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