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bonanova
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:57 am    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

A friend pointed this one out to me. Interested in any comments.
Consider the equation which involves an infinite string of exponentiation x to the x to the x to the x ...:

[1] x x... = 2.

Noting that the exponent of the first x equals the whole expression gives x 2 = 2, or x = sqrt(2).
Then consider the equation

[2] x x... = 4.

Now x 4 = 4, or x = 4throot(4) = sqrt(2).

Thus the expression sqrt(2) sqrt(2)... is multivalued, or perhaps indeterminate.
Why?
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ralphmerridew
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

You've gotten ahead of yourself. What you showed is that if there exists an x for which the power converges to 2 or 4, then that x must be sqrt(2). You did not show that a tower of sqrt(2) converges to 2 or 4, or even that it converges at all.
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bonanova
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:42 am    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

ralphmerridew wrote:
You did not show that a tower of sqrt(2) converges to 2 or 4, or even that it converges at all.

The infinite power would be the limit of the sequence sqrt(2), sqrt(2) sqrt(2) , ... for simplicity write it as a 1 , a 2 , a 3 , ...

Since a i+2 = sqrt(2) a 1+1 > sqrt(2) a i = a i+1 . then 1<a i <a i+1 for each i>=1.
If the topmost sqrt(2) in any a i is replaced by the larger value 2, a i itself becomes 2.
So the sequence is increasing and bounded above, thus has a limit and the expression converges.

I've partially exposed the puzzle at this point, but let's ask: what's with equation [2] in the OP?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

X 2 = 2 has 2 solutions.

Playing around in Excel, shows that sqrt(2) = 1.41421...
is indeed a solution that works.


X 4 = 4 has 4 solutions.
1.41421...,
-1.41421...,
i * 1.41421...
and i * -1.41421...

One of the last 3 should be the solution for [2].
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