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Neo
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 1:52 am    Post subject: 1 Link to the puzzle Good luck!_________________ Ad Astra
ralphmerridew
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 9:48 am    Post subject: 2 Problem 1 mentions a diagram, but no diagram is provided.
Courk
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 10:30 am    Post subject: 3 Sorry about that, working on it.
Oscar
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 11:27 am    Post subject: 4 Converting The Series: I'm a little concerned about it only being 'a dozen or so iterations', but I presume the missing number is 250,000 although that would make it nearer 80 iterations.  However if it really is about a dozen missing then I suppose it might be the 35th term which caused the crash when it should have displayed 4 but I definitely prefer my first answer.[/edit] For Incompletely Finished these are jumbled prefixes from yotta (10 to the power 24) through yocto (10 to the power minus 24). Since they go from 10 (to the power one) to 10 to the power minus one, I suppose the missing term is unitary (10 to the power zero, which is the nothing that is missing)Last edited by Oscar on Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:37 pm; edited 1 time in total
Duke Gnome
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: 5 For II: Does Dale work in a theme park or similar place? He puts in an 8 hour day at that place, but it never said he worked whilst doing it.
Courk
Daedalian Member

 Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:09 pm    Post subject: 6 The diagram for Roller Coaster Mayhem has been added.
blacxthornE*
Guest

 Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: 7 II: Dale's friend works for him. Dale tells his friend on Monday "you work too hard and you need some rest, so you're going to take the day off tomorrow". On Wednesday, Dale's friend comes back to work, and asks "how was it around here yesterday?" and Dale says it was great. ^ Is this the solution?
Duke Gnome*
Guest

 Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:46 am    Post subject: 8 Also, does Dale work out in a gym.That's what he takes a break from, not his job? Like my other answer there's nothing wrong with it as a solution, but it doesn't leap out as being obviously right....
MillerTime
Deceased Extra-Terrestrial Member

 Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 3:44 pm    Post subject: 9 Could it be that Dale works at a job where he's normally out of the office and doing physical work - I'm thinking construction or something similar. So on his day off, he goes into his office and catches up on paperwork, rather than going to the work site.
tangerine*
Guest

 Posted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 3:24 pm    Post subject: 10 so what is the intended answer for the dale question
Zalcior*
Guest

 Posted: Thu Dec 18, 2008 6:50 pm    Post subject: 11 Could it be that Dale was asked how his day off was a week FROM his day off?
shibl
Icarian Member

 Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:00 pm    Post subject: 12 Dale is a flight attendant and he missed a day because he was in a different time zone
v4l*
Guest

 Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2008 11:30 pm    Post subject: 13 My answer to the Dale ? is both guys are named dale or he is taking time off from making love to his wife[/quote]
Zag
Tired of his old title

Posted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:08 pm    Post subject: 14

Re "Converting the Series"

 Quote: I thought I knew the series, but the value that crashed it the first time (i.e. the eleventh value) seems incorrect. Why is it 250 and not 55? Also, the text implies that the pattern repeats the 19 terms that it shows. However, I would assume there would be another 0, then it would start to repeat, duplicating the first 10 values, but then have a set of 10 different values (some of which I'm not sure what they should be), followed by the first 10 values again. I can't believe that I'm completely wrong in my interpretation of the values, but it must be interpreting some sequence other than what I am assuming.

OK. I had written all that up, and it got me thinking harder about how the eleventh term was different from the others. Now I think I get it -- the L and the V of ELEVEN are not adjacent, which I guess means we should multiply. However, I still believe that the sequence would go:

 Code: 0,  0,  0,  0,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  0, 250, 55,  1,  0,  1,  9,  5,  1,  1,  0,  note the zero here before repeating   0,  0,  0,  0,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  1,  only repeats the first 9 values   1,  1,  1,  1,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  0,  then zeroes became ones   0,  0,  0,  0,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  1,   1,  1,  1,  1,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  9,   9,  9,  9,  9, 36, 81,  9,  9,  9,  0,    0,  0,  0,  0,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  1,   1,  1,  1,  1,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  1,   1,  1,  1,  1,  4,  9,  5,  1,  1,  250000

And I assume that the last value is the one that next broke the program, since that value is the first which exceeded the bounds of a signed int.

This is the sequence I am assuming:

Take the numbers in order, written out in English. Any letters that are not used in roman numerals are discarded, and the remaining letters are interpreted as a roman numeral, assigning zero for any number that contains none of {IVXLCDM} So TWELVE is interpreted as 55.

However, if the valid letters are not adjacent, then multiply the different roman numerals found within the string. So ELEVEN become L times V or 250.

For the numbers THIRTY through THIRTY-NINE, the sequence of the first 10 changes the zeroes to ones, but leaves the non-zeroes unchanged because you are just multiplying one times what they are without the THIRTY. The same for FIFTY through FIFTY-NINE. However, SIXTY through SIXTY-NINE is multiplying 9 times final digit portion.

ONE HUNDRED ends up as D times D, or 250000.

ONE HUNDRED FIVE is D times D times IV, or one million. I could see the program breaking here, too, since this is the first value comprised of three roman numerals. But that fits the text of the puzzle even worse, since the next number to break it should be following the sort-of repeated sequence.

But still this doesn't quite fit the text of the puzzle.
Logain
Stretch Armstrong

 Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 1:48 am    Post subject: 15 Zag, good work on the series. You were just over-thinking what I intended as the answer. Don't assume I fixed the "bug"...just that first instance of it. The puzzle says you encounter "a problem just like the last one" The puzzle is figuring out what caused the crash the first time, not figuring out what some "unknown" cause for a whole new crash would be. Assume I harcoded my multiplication when the crash first happened or something That's why I used an ambiguous number such as "around" a dozen undisplayed iterations later (actually 14 not shown), so you wouldn't go too far into the series.
jki6783*
Guest

 Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: 16 Does Dale work 3rd shift? Like his start time would be Monday @ 11:45pm when he tells his friend he needs a day off; Dale works his 8 hours into Tuesday, but doesn't show up that night because he's taking it off. Then Dale comes in Wednesday night when his friend asks how his day off was... ??? Maybe?
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