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Did Michelangelo have a form of Autism?

 
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Vader
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 02, 2004 3:29 pm    Post subject: 1 Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/arts/3765509.stm

Some feel he may have. Then again how can it ever be proven or disproven now?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:16 pm    Post subject: 2 Reply with quote

Every now and then another article comes out that says so-and-so was autistic (or had Asperger's syndrome). Einstein, Newton, Bill Gates, ... Who knows? I've worked with autistic kids and have an interest in the condition and societies misunderstanding of it, but I never really paid much heed to these stories. Maybe they were, maybe they weren't.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: 3 Reply with quote

I suppose the question is 'so what?'
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:01 pm    Post subject: 4 Reply with quote

I too have worked with people that have Autism, and various other disabilities so this just interested me. As far as the so what question I just thought it would be a good discusion. I'm glad to see that something is being brough to the table.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:03 pm    Post subject: 5 Reply with quote

Is autism really considered to be a disability?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2004 5:48 pm    Post subject: 6 Reply with quote

For some people it certainly is. It's often refered to as "autism spectrum disorder", spectrum meaning there is a wide range from severely autistic to "neuro-typical". Even for "high functioning" autistics (above average intelligence, excellent language skills), not having the intuitive grasp of social skills that most people take for granted can make life very stressfull.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 4:55 pm    Post subject: 7 Reply with quote

Legion wrote:
Is autism really considered to be a disability?

A disability is when it is hard for you to do something (dis-ABILITY). So yeah, I'd call it that.

I notice that there are some disabilities, like autism, that cause some people to be much smarter than they'd normally be able to. (Correct me if I'm wrong but) most really smart people have some disability. So they get smarter, as well as some negative side effects. There are other disabilities that make people stupider, with some other negative side effects.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:42 pm    Post subject: 8 Reply with quote

Smarter? I personally don't consider an idiot savant to be "smart".
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: 9 Reply with quote

I recently read Look Me in the Eye: My Life with Asperger's. It gives a great inside view of someone with Asperger's.

The author has been through extensive training and gone to extensive effort to learn to be socially appropriate, such that he now has a degree of empathy that was foreign to him growing up. He says that, having now dedicated a big part of his brain to this effort, he is no longer as "smart" as he once was in the areas that he used to be genius.

For example, he used to be able to design circuit boards for amplifiers, creating great amps with no distortion, or else creating different effects intentionally. He says that he could just "see" the sound waves, transformed into electrical waves, and then modified as they went through the circuit. He now looks back on some of the designs that he made (and are still used) and he has to work to understand them. In some cases he marvels at how anyone could come up with such an elegant design, when he briefly forgets that it was he who did it.

He does conclude, however, that he is glad for the trade-off. He still remembers how lonely and miserable he was back when sound waves and electronic circuits were the only form on communication in which he was proficient.

I have seen this somewhat in my own life. When my math genius son was only 3 or 4 years old, he could "gestalt" up to 11 items. That is, I could pull a handful of small objects (dice, say) and spill them on the table, and he could instantly say how many there were without counting or grouping and adding. Most people can do this up to 3 objects, and many people can do 4 objects, but hardly anyone can do 5. (Try it. You can't just "see" that it is 5, you'll see a group of 3 and another group of 2.) He also could instantly tell you what letter of the alphabet was in any position, going from number to letter or vice-versa. I know that by 6 years old he couldn't do that. We've never repeated the gestalt experiment, but I'd be surprised if he could do any more than a normal person.
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