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MNOWAX
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 Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject: 241 |
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I investigated Zag Last night.
Any last words scum?
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:04 am Post subject: 242 |
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Vote Zag
Wow nice catch! 
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Zag
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:41 am Post subject: 243 |
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MNOWAX, you're a stinking liar! Either you are some crappy form of cop, or you're no cop at all. I suspect you're just a stinking scum who us blowing smoke up our butts.
All right. Here is what I have figured out. With 6 players left, if there were 3 mafia, then UM would have called the game over already. So we know that there are only 2 mafia. We know that there were two masons (at least) and now we know that there is a vigilante. Do you really think that there would be a cop and a doc, as well, against only two mafia? Even with just a cop but no doc, this leaves a grossly unfair game against only 2 mafia. Do you really think that is how UM set it up? I don't think so.
So, who could know this and exploit it by making a false claim? Only a stinking scum, that's who. Since you and your scum buddy know that there are only the two of you, you were pretty confidant that there is no cop in the game, so you could safely claim it. Freaking clever, I have to admit.
BUT IT'S ALL LIES!!
So who is your scum buddy? I thought of Loki, because he was the first one you cleared, but that's too obvious. For your first one you would pick a townie, so then you'd get that person believing you and siding with you. I'm thinking that it is either one of the quiet ones, like CM, or maybe Lamont. He was quick to jump on your attack, here, like maybe you two had it all planned. Oh NO! He doesn't want to be seen piling on, so he gets in the FIRST vote.
Anyway, I know that the rest of you aren't going to believe me, so whatever, I'm done with this. But after you all lynch me and find out that I'm just a humble little mouse, I want you to rip down MNO. And your vig had better guess right tonight, or MNO and his pal win immediately. |
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Zag
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:42 am Post subject: 244 |
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| Oh yeah. vote MNOWAX |
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:07 am Post subject: 245 |
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And now I know at least one scum.
Unvote, Vote: Lamont_Cranston
I was blocked last night. There are two scum left, one of which is a roleblocker. There is also a serial killer/Vig that shot off tonight, and they got their shot off because the RB'er blocked me.
Anyone who just blindly followed me is definitely scum of some osrt whether SK or scum.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: 246 |
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PS Sorry Zag. You were the only one that I was pretty sure wasn't scum.
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:24 am Post subject: 247 |
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Pardon me but the last time I checked, when I cop peeks somebody and they come up scum, that's it and the village rings it up.
That's normal Mafia play... 
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Zag
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:49 am Post subject: 248 |
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So you were just jerking me around? I can't say that I'm happy about it. But I guess I'm happy that I'm not walking around with a big target anymore.
I also can't say that I buy your recanting completely. Something tells me that maybe you found my note a little too close to the mark, so now you're backing off. Dammit. I don't know. I have to sleep on it. |
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:02 am Post subject: 249 |
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Ummm, I am thoroughly confused here and my brain hurts... 
I've gotta get some sleep... 
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:45 am Post subject: 250 |
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notice i never actually voted for you Zag.
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Courk
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: 251 |
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| I've been up for a very long time on definitely too little sleep, but I'm not sure I completely follow the logic. You implied that you had a guilty on Zag. The only person who knows that can't be true is the person who blocked you. And whoever blocked you is decidedly anti-town. Yet when someone follows what you seemed to have implied, that's suspicious? Every pro-town player would be thinking that Zag was guilty. The only person who wouldn't would be the one person who knew you didn't get a result. What am I missing here? |
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 2:53 pm Post subject: 252 |
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the game has totally changed with two kill roles. none of us (myself included ) has this in the plan at all. when someone was just about to lynch blindly and not even think about the second kill, i think its obvious that that person knows things that we dont know. When scum saw the second kill, they now know who the other kill role is (they were blocking then the whole time until they moved their blocking to me) so if you are a SK, or a vig, you are going to die tonight without question. you are the only major role that stops the scum from winning easily.
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Zag
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 3:43 pm Post subject: 253 |
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Ok. I've had a chance to think about this a bit. I wouldn't say that I have any conclusions, but I have suspicions. I'm going to lay them all out and let others say whether I should find these suspicious or not. Sorry that this turned out so long -- I type very fast and I have trouble being concise.
First, let's assume MNO really is a cop.
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| It's the assumption I and many of us had going into this morning. I'll admit that my belief in a cop was also predicated on the assumption that there were 3 mafia, not 2, which is now demonstrated to be untrue. I still think that UM would not have designed a game with 8-to-2 and include both a set of masons and a cop (and maybe also a doc). From looking at sample setups on the mafiascum wiki, this seems unbalanced. So this already makes me suspicious of his claim, though I admit I don't have enough experience to know how much of a counterweight it is that there's a mafia role-blocker (which he is claiming exists). |
Suppose you were a cop, had role-claimed, etc. (with the group generally convinced to go no lynch based on your ability) and then found yourself role-blocked, if you then decided to bluff in hopes of getting a confession would you choose this way?
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| PS Sorry Zag. You were the only one that I was pretty sure wasn't scum. |
Wouldn't you choose the person you though WAS scum? If he had come out and said that "You were the only one I thought was newbish enough that, if you were guilty, you would make a dramatic confession," then I might have gone for it. As it was, his comment doesn't ring true. He has accused me several times over this whole game, and has never really backed off of it. It sounds more like he is trying to mollify the one person who has some outrage against him and might be likely to organize something out of spite.
Then he comes out and attacks Lamont for believing him and taking the obvious action. I totally don't understand this. If it hadn't been me he was accusing, then I probably would have done the same thing Lamont did. I thought that's what we were all waiting for when we voted 'no lynch'! So, again, MNOWAX's actions seem motivated by something other than what is obvious. It seems to me as if he's flailing around, desperately trying to cast suspicion somewhere else, based on whatever reason he can find.
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| notice i never actually voted for you Zag. |
Well, sure. I did actually observe this when I originally wrote my very ticked off note above, but I assumed that it was just an oversight at the time. Notice that, when he then voted for Lamont, he started with "unvote," This makes me think that he didn't even realize that he hadn't originally voted until he saw that I still needed mollifying.
So I'm sticking with my vote: MNOWAX (which I never did unvote, I noticed). I'm willing to be talked out of it, but right now I can believe that a scum, knowing that there are only the two mafia, might have decided to take a chance on a false role-claim of cop.
On the other hand, I guess it is inconsistent that he would renounce the claim, even after my long note. Maybe he just got cold feet, or maybe I've just misinterpreted everything. But I thought I would put it all out there and listen to the resulting discussion. |
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Zag
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject: 254 |
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In rereading my note, I realize that the last paragraph is just confusing. In it, I was arguing with myself. (I do that a lot.) Let me restate it more clearly.
If my whole tenuous theory were true, that MNO is scum who figured out that a false role-claim of cop was safe, it doesn't make a lot sense that he would renounce his finger-point at me. He would just let you all believe him and lynch me. Even though that would ruin his false claim, it would be too late for the town to recover -- with that lynch and a night-kill, he and his scum buddy would have it sewn up.
Or maybe the new information of a vigilante in our midst messed up the plan. |
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:47 pm Post subject: 255 |
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Ok, I've woke up now but my brain still hurts... 
This was such a simple game, what happened?
Two major things:
A) We suddenly have two NK's
B) We have a Cop with no peek because he was roleblocked
It is very common that a fake cop claim is followed by a fake roleblock to continue the ruse. However, one thing bothers me with this theory here:
How as scum would MNO do all what he did?
Well, it looks to me like just a razzle-dazzle variation on the same fake cop claim routine.
My brain still hurts and I need to wake up.
FoS MNO
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 4:56 pm Post subject: 256 |
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the reason why i picked you as a scape goat is that if i picked a scum (who knows they RB'ed me) I dont believe that they would have had such a extensive OMG post as you did. As for my "unvote, vote" thing its a habit when i vote that i unvote every time except my very first post in the thread.
Lastly, youre right. If I was making a false claim of cop, not have it counterclaimed, then promptly could have allowed a lynch to happen with you zag (assuming that you are in fact inno) tahts quite a few bits of unusual circumstances. I must be very good scum, or for real. And ill give you a hint. In terms of mafia games, im good at modding them.
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:03 pm Post subject: 257 |
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| Lamont_Cranston wrote: |
Ok, I've woke up now but my brain still hurts...
This was such a simple game, what happened?
Two major things:
A) We suddenly have two NK's
B) We have a Cop with no peek because he was roleblocked
It is very common that a fake cop claim is followed by a fake roleblock to continue the ruse. However, one thing bothers me with this theory here:
How as scum would MNO do all what he did?
Well, it looks to me like just a razzle-dazzle variation on the same fake cop claim routine.
My brain still hurts and I need to wake up.
FoS MNO |
I agree with the bolded statement but we should all be positive that there is a roleblocker in this game. No NKs untill now, then my issue with a RB when there was a 2nd NK is the closest thing to confirming it, next to scum outright saying it in the thread!
Lamont is a good chance of being scum. he has this big post, but doesn't even mentions the second nightkill in his vote post and it should be obvious that things have changed, despite the fact that i have a scum, he was just willing to lynch and go right back into night.
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 5:05 pm Post subject: 258 |
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Gimmee a sec MNO, I'm still thinking here... 
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Zag
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:08 pm Post subject: 259 |
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| MNOWAX wrote: |
| we should all be positive that there is a roleblocker in this game. No NKs untill now, then my issue with a RB when there was a 2nd NK is the closest thing to confirming it, next to scum outright saying it in the thread! |
You say this as if there were 4 or 5 nights without a night kill. There was only one! Again, your comments look like spin to me. (I'm trying to figure out if I feel this way about you just because I'm still smarting from being accused, or if there is more to it. Sorry, but my gut is still saying that you're blowing smoke, though I'm willing to admit that there is still some just plain bad feeling.)
Maybe the Vig or SK just chose not to kill on the first night. (I could see that for a Vig. I'm not sure why an SK would do so.) Or maybe it's an even-nights-only killer. Or maybe something else. I mean, I agree that a role-blocker is the most obvious explanation, but it's far from the only one. I'm a little leery of such strong assertions, as if they are made to keep us from looking for other answers.
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| Lamont is a good chance of being scum. he has this big post, but doesn't even mentions the second nightkill in his vote post and it should be obvious that things have changed, despite the fact that i have a scum, he was just willing to lynch and go right back into night. |
I can confidently say that this feels like more smoke to me. It's just so much confusing jabber. But now I'm starting to wonder whether it is you and Lamont trying to get some significant separation between you, so that if one of you goes down, the other won't immediately follow.
Anyway, I certainly don't see anything Lamont has said or done today as suspicious. I don't see them as necessarily NOT suspicious either, but I certainly wouldn't vote for him on what he's done today. |
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 8:55 pm Post subject: 260 |
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| Courk wrote: |
| I'm not sure I completely follow the logic. You implied that you had a guilty on Zag. The only person who knows that can't be true is the person who blocked you. And whoever blocked you is decidedly anti-town. Yet when someone follows what you seemed to have implied, that's suspicious? Every pro-town player would be thinking that Zag was guilty. The only person who wouldn't would be the one person who knew you didn't get a result. |
This is obviously true.
Sorry for the delay on my post, I also started work in the meantime. The major thing I wanted to consider is whether somehow MNO and Zag could be scum buddies here...
I have decided this is not true due to the fact that the timing on the extra vig kill matches MNO's roleblock. This means MNO is still town cop.
I have been suspicious of Zag from the beginning but I cannot find any scum tells in his response towards MNO.
I will have to analyze more and come up with a plan of action here.
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Zag
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 8:29 pm Post subject: 261 |
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Well, it's gotten really quiet. I'd love to hear from Courk on my musings about MNO, since she seems to be the primary Mafia Theorist around here. I thought some more, and I realized that I was at least as sure that Sniklac was scum, based on similar reasoning, as I now am about MNO, and I was wrong there. So I'd really like to get someone else's opinion on the whole body of evidence. (... besides Lamont, that is. He doesn't trust me, so I won't trust him. Hmph! Seriously, I appreciate Lamont's feedback, but I'd like more than one opinion, since he could easily be the other scum in this clever deception.)
I was going to say that I hoped Loki would come back and weigh in, because we 'know' that he is town, but then I realized that we 'know' it based on MNO's say so. (Though even in my theory that he is making a false claim, I suspect that he identified Loki correctly, to gain an ally.)
Speaking of Loki, he was the one who was all hot and heavy for lynching the non-participatory players. Not that I'm sayin' we should lynch him or anything. I was just enjoying the irony. |
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:59 pm Post subject: 262 |
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Sorry, I had a really bad day at work yesterday and just woke up. I need to come up with some analysis that applies to the new game situation. Working on it.
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Courk
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| Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:36 pm Post subject: 263 |
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I believe MNOWAX is the cop -- it'd be way too risky to claim that as early as he did and be lying about it.
I have a problem with his logic since this day started. I'm just not following it. Even the reason for why we "know" there's a roleblocker in this game doesn't make sense. A second night kill that occurred on night 2 is not proof. Any vig would not kill someone night 1.
Zag, however, does seem to be pressing a bit too hard to get our cop lynched. MNOWAX may think he's innocent, but I'm less sure.
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Zag
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:19 am Post subject: 264 |
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I'm not really pressing that hard to get him lynched -- what I'm pressing hard for is for SOMEONE to address my argument point by point, and tell me where there's a flaw. I've built this ladder of conclusions, every rung of which I have doubts about, but I can't get anyone to address it point by point. I'm perfectly willing to believe there is a flaw, or even many flaws, but I want someone to tell me what they are and not just keep waving it off as if I'm just a buzzing fly.
Specifically,
Ladder Rung #1. We now know that there are only two mafia. Is this correct? Is a game always ended if half of the remaining people are mafia? That's what I had understood, but I can see that it still wouldn't be a locked win for mafia, even with three, since a correct lynch and a correct vig kill would leave us at 2-to-1.
Ladder Rung #2. Assuming that there ARE only 2 mafia, does it seem unbalanced that UM would design a game with 2 masons, a cop, a vig (maybe an SK), and 4 MORE townies (possibly also including a doc) against only 2 mafia? I really don't know and I'm trying to get someone to say either "No, that isn't that unbalanced if the mafia have a role-blocker" or "Yes, that's unbalanced, and we know UM isn't an idiot, so there must be something else going on."
Ladder Rung #3. Assuming that the setup that MNOWAX is purporting we have DOES seem unbalanced, what else might be going on? I've posited one theory, but I don't even have that much faith in it, as I said above. But I don't plan to abandon it until I hear a better theory.
Ladder Rung #4. If MNOWAX is telling the truth, why the suspicious nonsense about me being the one he most believed was townie, and THAT'S why he accused me, when he clearly has never believed that this entire game?
I'm not trying to lynch "our cop," as you say. I'm trying to understand what the flaws are in this reasoning Don't bother telling me that I'm wrong without saying where and why -- I'll just ignore it like I ignored Lamont. If you can't tell me exactly where I'm wrong and why, then, please, don't bother.
Frankly, Courk, you accuse me for questioning the cop, and then you go and do it yourself, by claiming that there might not be a role-blocker in the game. Either there's a role-blocker or MNOWAX is lying, you can't have it both ways. Or are you just trying to muddy the waters? |
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Zag
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:28 am Post subject: 265 |
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I believe MNOWAX is the cop.
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Even the reason for why we "know" there's a roleblocker in this game doesn't make sense. |
Courk has just espoused two contradictory beliefs. Pick one, Courk. Either there's a role-blocker or MNOWAX is lying, you can't have it both ways. Or are you trying to confuse people, because maybe you ARE the role-blocker? |
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MNOWAX
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 3:15 am Post subject: 266 |
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i agree with zag. I was DEFINITELY roleblocked. the proof of there being a RB'er in terms of visible night actions is less. Just because I know there is a RB'er doesn't mean that you guys know it.
My line of reasoning may be faulty, but thats how i think. and honeslty i thought this game had been goign on longer than jsut one night, so that might be a faulty assumption.
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Courk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:08 am Post subject: 267 |
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| Zag wrote: |
| Courk wrote: |
I believe MNOWAX is the cop.
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Even the reason for why we "know" there's a roleblocker in this game doesn't make sense. |
Courk has just espoused two contradictory beliefs. Pick one, Courk. Either there's a role-blocker or MNOWAX is lying, you can't have it both ways. Or are you trying to confuse people, because maybe you ARE the role-blocker? |
They're not contradictory. Nowhere did I say I don't believe MNOWAX and don't believe there's a roleblocker. I just said the reasons MNOWAX gave for why we know there's a roleblocker don't make sense. That's like saying I know there's mafia in this game because daisies are white. The fact isn't wrong, but the logic behind it doesn't make sense.
And onto the ladder rungs:
1. It's difficult to tell how many mafia are in the game at this point. Imagine a game where there's 2 mafia, a vig, and a doc. The doc protects the vig, the mafia can't kill the vig, the vig kills one of the mafia. Next day, last mafia dies. Possibly controlling half the town is not necessarily a win for the mafia, it's dependent upon what the remaining roles can do. However, considering the game started with 10 players, I think 3 mafia would be a bit much, especially if one could be a roleblocker.
2. Another possibility is there there is no doc. There could be tweaks to roles, such as maybe the cop having a bullet proof vest -- it's some protection, but it's not as in-favor of the town as a doc. If the mafia are 2 in number and have a roleblocker, I don't think it's unbalanced, especially when the game started out with only 10 players.
3. No doc, see above.
4. As I said before, I do not understand his logic. I just don't think mafia would claim cop so early, and then accuse-you-yet-take-it-back. There's practically no defense you could have given the town that would have saved you from a lynch after a claimed cop fingered you as mafia. If he was mafia he would have run with it. |
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Zag
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:21 am Post subject: 268 |
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Thanks, Courk. At least I feel listened to. 
I do agree with you on #4, especially -- I had pointed it out above as the biggest weakness in my argument.
Sorry for ranting. |
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 11:37 am Post subject: 269 |
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Hey guys sorry I haven't been around lately, (been feeling under the whether) but you seem to be getting along fine. However it just occured to me that you are missing a few of your playmates so may I introduce our next two replacements Simmons....I mean sAbLLimINal 2.0 (replacing for Loki) and shadowfox replacing for creativemind. Replacees were chosen at randomn and have been sent their roles.Tthey are officially players once they have posted in this thread. Thats all for now.
P.S. bonus points for anyone who can name what webseries I refrenced in the above paragraph.
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shadowfox
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:07 pm Post subject: 270 |
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| Well, hello guys, I'm replacing in for creativemind. However, it appears I wasn't thinking when I decided to replace in when I did. Because I'm actually leaving today for a retreat until Sunday and will be away from internet the entire time. Really sorry. If you need to replace me out you can. If not, I promise I'll read the thread and post a nice analysis post when I return. I'll start reading through now, and I'll try to post right before I leave. But anyway, hello. |
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Zag
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:19 pm Post subject: 271 |
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Not to worry. If anything significant happens before Sunday, I'll eat my hat.
(It seems that anyone who tries to lynch anyone else for behavior that they consider suspicious, is automatically considered suspicious. Something of a Catch 22, eh?)
Oh yeah, I'll unvote MNOWAX, because I actually was convinced by Courk's eloquence, in spite of being annoyed at her.  |
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Courk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 12:28 pm Post subject: 272 |
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| Eloquent? Eh, I'd call it average. Perhaps you've spent too much time reading the Rules Game? |
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shadowfox
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:17 pm Post subject: 273 |
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| Alright, I actually finished reading the thread (browsing it, more like--I'm sure I missed a few posts). From what I can tell, MNO being cop does seem suspicious, just from my gut. And Zag appears cop. But I may be wrong on both counts so I won't be placing a vote yet. |
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shadowfox
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 1:18 pm Post subject: 274 |
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Ooops I meant Zag appears scum in my last post. But since the rules say no editing, I'm posting it here.  |
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Lamont_Cranston
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 4:51 pm Post subject: 275 |
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Well I can say I definitely agree with Courk's analysis of the situation. Sorry, another crappy day at work...
I'm really tired. I need to get off my butt and make a list. 
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sAbLLimINal
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| Posted: Wed Jun 24, 2009 6:09 pm Post subject: 276 |
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| hey again everybody. I'm just confirming again and I'll get down to reading what I missed in a little bit. |
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Zag
Tired of his old title
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| Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2009 6:53 pm Post subject: 277 |
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| Hi all. It has seemed pretty quiet. I wanted to do something to prompt some more discussion -- we really need to choose correctly tonight or it's all over. But every time I discuss anything that seems to me like evidence I end up getting accused of being scummy (plus I've been wrong, which doesn't help). So I won't. I'm just saying hi. |
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Courk
Daedalian Member
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 5:10 pm Post subject: 278 |
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| I still feel Zag is the most suspicious. Due to the lack of anything at all happening right now, I'll place a vote. Vote: Zag |
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Lamont_Cranston
Daedalian Member
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| Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject: 279 |
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I'm waiting for Sab to come back. I wanna hear what he has to say...
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Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? |
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sAbLLimINal
Daedalian Member
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| Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: 280 |
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sorry about the delay. i had grad parties to go to, which i should have told everyone but i was sure i could make it back here. i feel like a hypocrite now for scolding creativemind, but oh well.
anyways this is my analysis of all who are left from each day
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Day 1 Activities
Zag - bandwagon with mnowax; bandwagons with courk; votes courk for omgus; bandwagons against me
Courk - votes creative for being aggressive; votes zag for bandwagon; defends me
MNOWAX - bandwagons with courk; bandwagons with loki against me
Walle/Lamont - voted me in beginning but did nothing
creativemind/shadowfox - lays low
Day 2 Activities
Zag - votes creative cuz he thinks that courk and snic are town based on what lamont said?; bandwagons with loki
Courk - defends me; votes sniklac
MNOWAX - votes zag for switiching sides; claims cop
Lamont - bandwagons with courk
creative/shadow - did nothing
Day 3 Activities
Zag - votes mnowax omgus?
Courk - votes zag
MNOWAX - caught zag?; votes lamont for going along with him
Lamont - waiting
creative/shadow - thinks zag is cop? |
If there is a killer in the game, I think its shadowfox or zag. Killers are all for themselves and will side with anyone and lay low. creativemind didn't do anything in this game, and zag bandwagons with anyone. But I'm leaning towards zag as being the killer more so than shadowfox.
MNOWAX claiming as cop, idk. Do cop reports show killers as scum???
That leaves Courk and Lamont. My guess: courk is such an experienced player that he can lead the lynching discussions and everyone will agree with him, while Lamont tags along with him.
For now, I'm going to vote: Lamont (OMG I'm voting?) as he seems most likely to be scum in my eyes. |
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