Revolution! Game over. The winner is....

[dethwing]

Here you go Ref:

General - No Force - 1 Support, 1 Force, Fortress
Captain - No Force - 1 Support, 1 Force, Harbor Full
Innkeeper - No Blackmail - 3 Support, 1 Blackmail, Tavern Full
Magistrate - No Blackmail - 1 Support, 1 Blackmail, Town Hall Full
Priest - Any - 6 Support, Cathedral
Aristrocrat - Any - 5 Support, 3 Gold, Plantation Full
Merchant - Any - 3 Support, 5 Gold, Market
Printer - Any - 10 Support
Rogue - Gold only - 2 Blackmail
Spy - No Blackmail - Change one influence square to your own
Apothecary - No Force - Swap two influences
Mercenary - Gold only - 3 Support, 1 Force

[mith]

Alright...

Cordy, I'm taking the Spy.

[dethwing]

I hate to deadline, but we've slowed to a crawl. Deadline tomorrow midnight. If I don't get a bid, you'll no bid and get 5 gold next round.

[dethwing]

Apparently I have different opinions about what "12 PM" means so I guess I should clarify. 25 hours from now, unless someone complains for some reason. I think it's fair, you all have had since tuesday.

[dethwing]

Well, Im really sorry to have to do this. I even delayed cause I was so tired last night.

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Ref (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Cord, Cord, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Groza (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Mith, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref (45)

Fortress - 8: Cord, Mith, Ref, Mith, Ref (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 3B, 5G
Groza: 1F, 4G
Ref: 4B, 3G
Cordelia: 5G


SUPPORT
Cord: 36
Mith: 35
Groza: 31
Ref: 27


Mith:
Innkeeper: 1 Gold -->Win
Merchant: 1 Force -->Win
Rogue: 2 Gold --> Win
Spy: 1 Force --> Win
Market, 3 Blackmail, 5 Gold, 6 Suport, Spy

Referee:
General: 1 Blackmail -->Win
Captain: 1 Blackmail -->Win
Merchant: 1 Blackmail -->Loss
Apothecary: 1 Blackmail -->Win
Magistrate: 3 Gold -->Win
Fortress, Harbor, Town Hall, 2 Force, 1 Blackmail, 3 Support, Apoth


Groza:
General: 1 Gold --> Lose
Captain: 1 Gold --> Lose
Mercneray: 1 Gold --> Win
Merchant: 1 Gold --> Lose
Aristocrat: 1 Gold --> Win
Plantation, 1 Force, 3 Gold, 8 Support

Cord:
No Bid

Mith Spy, then Ref Apothecary.

[mith]

I'll take one of ref's Fortress spots.

Sad that Cordy vanished.

And dethy, you haven't updated ref's resources in your first list.

[dethwing]

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Ref (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Cord, Cord, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Groza (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Mith, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref (45)

Fortress - 8: Cord, Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 3B, 5G
Groza: 1F, 4G
Ref: 2F, 1B, 2G
Cordelia: 5G


SUPPORT
Cord: 36
Mith: 35
Groza: 31
Ref: 27

Me too. Wonder if we need a replacement. And thanks for the catch on the resources.

[referee]

I will swap one of Groza's spots at the Town Hall with my own at the Tavern.

I also think we could benefit from a reposting of the people we bid on since we got a new page.
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[dethwing]

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Groza (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Cord, Cord, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Groza (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Mith, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref (45)

Fortress - 8: Cord, Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 3B, 5G
Groza: 1F, 4G
Ref: 2F, 1B, 2G
Cordelia: 1F, 4G


SUPPORT
Cord: 36
Mith: 35
Groza: 31
Ref: 27

[Cordelia]

Woah woah woah, I'm gone for a couple days, and you people go crazy. Four days: thu-fri-sat-sun, my boyfriend and I had a spontaneous trip to Atlanta to see Chicago (with Jerry Springer). I'm not exactly sure how just skipping me improves the quality of the game.

[dethwing]

Hmm...and you didn't think to send in your bid before you left, or give a quick message here (or PM to me...) saying you'd be gone till monday? I'd have waited if I knew what was going on.

I'll give you back your force to use this round but that's it.

[Cordelia]

At the time I had left, no one had sent anything, and I really hadn't expected a few days to be an issue. People were discussing strategies...which I thought was interesting.

I think I'll politely withdraw. I've already lost out on a round, and I don't want any concessional actions made on my behalf. Good luck to mith and groza in taking down ref! I eyed the physical board game today in the store...I still think the board itself is unnecessary and the game could have been down without it. I thought that the board was one of the more expensive elements for a game?

[dethwing]

Sad to see you leave like this. For what it's worth, I agree about the board. This is a nice game, but I don't think it's a $40 game, and it could have been made a lot cheaper.

[dethwing]

Well...if anyone else wants to jump in before this round is over and take Cords spot go ahead and submit a bid.

Also, to the other 3 players, if we drop to 3 what do you want to do with cord's influence? There's 2 in market, 1 in fortress. Could we just leave them there as blanks?

[groza528]

When you say leave them as blanks, do you mean block the spots but nobody gets the influence?

Personally I would recommend removing them entirely. This could give the remaining players an additional round to recover from the sudden change. I also wouldn't be adverse to redoing the last round if Cordy still wants to play, but I'll leave that up to the fellows who got more out of the round.

[dethwing]

I meant just leaving them there, but I'm fine with removing them too if that's what folks want.

Same with replaying the round...

[mith]

If someone jumps in, we need to be given time to change our bids if we want. I haven't thought much about how mine would change, but they were sent on the assumption that we are continuing with three.

Beyond that, don't really care. Don't mind replaying the round if Cordy wants back in, don't mind playing with three to see how differently it plays, don't mind whether Cordy's cubes are left or removed.

[referee]

I am the one that haven't send yet. Seeing this sad mess we (we all) got into, I will wait for the resolution.

Sadly, there is no good exit, we should find the one that is the least bad.
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[dethwing]

It sounds like we're going to remove the 3 Cordelia influences and press on with 3.

[dethwing]

Ok, I have all 3 bids, but due to the recent developments and the board changing I'll wait till tomorrow to update, just in case it affected anyone.

Here is the updated position:

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Groza (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Groza (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Mith, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref (45)

Fortress - 8: Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 3B, 5G
Groza: 1F, 4G
Ref: 2F, 1B, 2G


SUPPORT
Mith: 35
Groza: 31
Ref: 27

This won't make the game any longer, since we needed 4 more cathedrals anyway.

[dethwing]

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Groza (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Mith, Ref (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Groza, Mith (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Mith, Ref, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza (45)

Fortress - 8: Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith, Mith (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 1F, 4G
Groza: 1B, 4G
Ref: 1F, 5G


SUPPORT
Mith: 42
Groza: 42
Ref: 31

Mith:
General: 1 Blackmail, 2 Gold --> Win
Captain: 1 Blackmail --> Lose
Innkeeper: 1 Gold --> Lose
Priest: 1 Gold --> Win
Apothecary: 1 Blackmail --> Win
Rogue: 1 Gold --> Lose
Fortress, Cathedral, 1 Force, 7 Support, Apothecary

Groza:
Magistrate: 1 Force, 1 Gold --> Win
Innkeeper: 1 Gold --> Lose
Rogue: 1 Gold -->Lose
Printer: 1 Gold -->Win
Town Hall, 1 Blackmail, 11 Support

Ref:
Innkeeper: 1 Gold --> Lose
Captain: 1 Blackmail, 1 Gold --> Win
Merchant: 1 Force --> Win
Spy: 1 Force --> Win
Harbor, Market, 1 Force, 5 Gold, 4 Support, Spy

Ref Spy, then Mith Apothecary.

[referee]

I want to state the fact that it's not a personal persecution, it's just where my best options are. Take one of Groza's cubes in the Town Hall.
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[mith]

Swap my Harbor with one of groza's Cathedrals...

(That round did not go well at all. Pah.)

[dethwing]

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Groza (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Mith, Ref (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Mith, Mith (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza, Ref, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref, Ref (45)

Fortress - 8: Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith, Mith (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 1F, 4G
Groza: 1B, 4G
Ref: 1F, 5G


SUPPORT
Mith: 42
Groza: 42
Ref: 31

[dethwing]

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Groza (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Mith, Ref, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza, Ref (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Mith, Mith (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza, Ref, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref, Ref (45)

Fortress - 8: Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith, Mith , Mith (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 1F, 5G
Groza: 1F, 4G
Ref: 1F, 2B, 3G


SUPPORT
Groza: 53
Mith: 46
Ref: 39

Mith:
General: 2 gold --> Win
Aristocrat: 1 Gold --> Lose
Merchant: 1 Force --> Win
Rogue: 1 Gold --> Lose
Fortress, Market, 1 Force, 5 Gold, 4 Support

Groza:
Aristocrat: 1 Gold --> Lose
Apothecary: 1 Blackmail --> Win
Printer: 1 Gold --> Win
Rogue: 1 Gold --> Lose
Captain: 1 Gold --> Win
1 Force, 11 Support, Apothecary

Ref:
Aristocrat: 1 Force -->Win
Rogue: 3 Gold --> Win
Mercenary: 2 Gold --> Win
Plantation, 8 Support, 1 Force, 2 Blackmail, 3 Gold

[groza528]

Swap one of ref's in the town hall for my tavern.

[dethwing]

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Ref (20)

Market - 5: Ref, Mith, Ref, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza, Ref (30)

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Mith, Mith (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza, Ref, Ref (40)

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref (45)

Fortress - 8: Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith, Mith, Mith (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 1F, 5G
Groza: 1F, 4G
Ref: 1F, 2B, 3G


SUPPORT
Groza: 53
Mith: 46
Ref: 39

Cathedral is still at 4, so we have at least 3 more rounds.

[referee]

Why am I not surprised?
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[groza528]

You're pretty comfortable in the harbor; I'll gladly let you have plantation if you let me take the town hall. That way we don't have to spend resources arguing over it.

[referee]

Makes sense.
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[dethwing]

I'm going on a small vacation this week, tuesday - friday. Please submit before then.

[dethwing]

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Ref (20) FULL

Market - 5: Ref, Mith, Ref, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref (30) FULL

Cathedral - 7: Groza, Mith, Mith, Mith, Groza (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza, Ref, Ref (40) FULL

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza (45) FULL

Fortress - 8: Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith, Mith, Mith, Ref (50)


RESOURCES
Mith: 2F, 1B, 2G
Groza: 1B, 4G
Ref: 1F, 4G


SUPPORT
Groza: 70
Mith: 53
Ref: 45


Mith:
General: 1 Gold --> Loss
Captain: 1 Gold --> Win
Innkeeper: 1 Gold --> Win
Spy: 1 Force, 1 Gold --> Win
Mercenary: 1 Gold --> Win
2 Force, 1 Blackmail, 7 Support, Spy

Groza:
Priest: 1 Force --> Win
Magistrate: 1 Gold --> Win
Printer: 1 Gold --> Win
Spy: 2 Gold --> Lose
Cathedral, Town Hall, 1 Blackmail, 17 Support

Ref:
Aristocraft: 2 Gold --> Win
General: 1 Blackmail, 1 Gold --> Win
Spy: 1 Force --> Lose
Apothecary: 1 blackmail --> Win
Plantation, Fortress, 1 Force, 3 Gold, 6 Support, Apoth.

Mith Spy, then Ref Apothecary. Only places open, with 4 total influences left.

[mith]

Decisions, decisions. I'll take one of groza's Cathedral bits, I guess.

[grz*]

But ref is the threat... You should take one of his market spots to give you a 50 point advantage on him.

[referee]

you sneaky double-crossing incestuous murderous damned Dane... whoops, shifted into another role. Anyway, what's said is said. Now for my apoth. I was going to show good will to groza, but now, what do I know?
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[grz*]

But mith is the threat. You should swap for one of his market spots to gain 50 points on him.

I don't mean much by any of this, I'm just annoyed I keep getting stuck with so much gold and people whittling away at my buildings

[mith]

(Psst. Grz. It's a 25 point advantage. It would be a 50 point swing if one of us were in control of the Market and the other took control; currently, neither of us control the Market.

Were I ref, I'd certainly be considering swapping in one of my bits to the Market to take temporary control of it. I'd also consider swapping my currently useless Tavern bit for one of groza's in the Town Hall or Plantation, though, since groza is sneaky and not to be trusted. Or swapping one of mith's bits in the Market with a groza bit in the Town Hall or Plantation, but that makes the Market situation messy.

Really, I'm not sure which I *want* him to do. If he can control the Plantation, Harbor, and Town Hall, he's probably going to win unless I control everything else, which is quite unlikely. On the other hand, I don't mind you two fighting...)

[referee]

Sorry, bit of a busy week. I'm gonna bolster my Plantation dominance while at the same time providing infighting for the Cathedral. One of Groza's plantations gets swapped by one of Mith's cathedrals.

I'm going to update the board so that we all know what it looks like.

BOARD

Tavern - 4: Mith, Mith, Mith, Ref (20) FULL

Market - 5: Ref, Mith, Ref, Mith (25)

Plantation - 6: Ref, Ref, Mith, Groza, Ref, Ref (30) FULL

Cathedral - 7: Mith, Mith, Mith, Groza, Groza (35)

Harbor - 6: Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza, Ref, Ref (40) FULL

Town Hall - 7: Groza, Groza, Groza, Ref, Ref, Ref, Groza (45) FULL

Fortress - 8: Mith, Ref, Mith, Mith, Mith, Mith, Ref (50)

Mith is the scary one now, since he got the best resources for this next round. One space left in the Market and Fortress, and two in the Cathedral.
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[groza528]

Still not fixed actually; he said CATHEDRAL not MARKET. Nice try though.

[mith]

Aha. I just completely misread him. Sorry about that.